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1. 01:47 AM - Re: Wanted Classic Build manual (JR Gowing)
2. 10:57 AM - Re: Wanted Classic Build manual (G-IANI)
3. 11:47 AM - Re: Wanted Classic Build manual (Pete Lawless)
4. 04:36 PM - Re: Wanted Classic Build manual (Graham Singleton)
5. 04:39 PM - Re: Wanted Classic Build manual (SteveD)
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| Subject: | Re: Wanted Classic Build manual |
good idea Rowland.
JR Gowing Kit 327 in Oz
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Rowland Carson" <rowil@clara.net>
Sent: Saturday, January 09, 2010 4:25 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Wanted Classic Build manual
>
> At 2010-01-08 05:33 -0800 SteveD wrote:
>
>>I have a user on EuropaOwners looking for a Classic Build Manual. He
>>has a third hand kit and has contacted Europa they and don't have
>>the docs. Can anybody help a brother out? Europa Club Should I point
>>him your way?
>
> Steve - as Brian Davies says, we only have the XS manual available.
> AFAIK the Classic manual was never seen in the wild as a PDF.
>
> Obviously it originally existed as a soft-copy at the factory
> (although drawings might have been hand-originated), but the version
> control seemed a bit sloppy in the early days, leading me to suspect
> that some early pages got over-written rather than archived when
> superseded. I don't know what software tool was used to write the
> manuals. Of course some soft-copy (such as customer records!) was
> lost (read: destroyed before the chopper left the roof) in 2004.
> Don't know if Roger is still monitoring this forum and could comment.
> Or maybe Andy Draper could tell us, if he had a minute to spare - and
> come to think of it, he might just have a copy of the original manual
> tucked away somewhere. LAA Engineering must have seen the manual to
> approve the design and insert the inspection points, so even if Andy
> doesn't have his own copy, there should be an authentic copy in the
> LAA Engineering files. Their archives were digitised some time back,
> so maybe that is the best place to start hunting.
>
> My own attempts to contact Engineering by e-mail have so far been
> totally unsuccessful so perhaps someone else might take this forward
> - Ian Rickard? If they've got it, seems an argument could be made for
> releasing a soft-copy of the Classic build manual to the Europa Club,
> simply on the grounds that the Club could field queries in the future
> and thus save LAA Engineering some time.
>
> regards
>
> Rowland
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| Subject: | Wanted Classic Build manual |
Rowland
As you say, as far as I know the Classic manual was never seen in the wild
as a PDF. My knowledge does not go back that far but from the XS on I
believe it was mostly a Word document.
I will be happy to approach LAA to see if they have a copy which we could
borrow and turn into a PDF. This would be an image PDF so it will be quite
large. I am happy to do the conversion but it will take a week or so.
Do any of our members have a copy we could borrow. I seem to remember a
number of committee members have some very early kit numbers.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 280 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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| Subject: | Wanted Classic Build manual |
Ian
I have a classic manual dated January 1996. You are welcome to borrow it.
It is in an A4 ring binder - if you had a double sided scanner it would make
life easy.
Regards
Pete
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of G-IANI
Sent: 09 January 2010 18:29
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Wanted Classic Build manual
Rowland
As you say, as far as I know the Classic manual was never seen in the wild
as a PDF. My knowledge does not go back that far but from the XS on I
believe it was mostly a Word document.
I will be happy to approach LAA to see if they have a copy which we could
borrow and turn into a PDF. This would be an image PDF so it will be quite
large. I am happy to do the conversion but it will take a week or so.
Do any of our members have a copy we could borrow. I seem to remember a
number of committee members have some very early kit numbers.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 280 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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| Subject: | Re: Wanted Classic Build manual |
Ian
I have found a copy which I could bring to the club dinner next week
Graham
might need to rattle my cage the day before so I don't forget
On 09/01/2010 18:29, G-IANI wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "G-IANI"<g-iani@ntlworld.com>
>
> Rowland
>
> As you say, as far as I know the Classic manual was never seen in the wild
> as a PDF. My knowledge does not go back that far but from the XS on I
> believe it was mostly a Word document.
>
> I will be happy to approach LAA to see if they have a copy which we could
> borrow and turn into a PDF. This would be an image PDF so it will be quite
> large. I am happy to do the conversion but it will take a week or so.
>
> Do any of our members have a copy we could borrow. I seem to remember a
> number of committee members have some very early kit numbers.
>
> Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 280 hours
> Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Wanted Classic Build manual |
Thanks everybody, I pointed Phil in the Europa Club direction. I have the Combined
Builders Manual on PDF. I had it posted on EuropaOwners for awhile but removed
it when Europa posted it on their site.
http://www.europa-aircraft.com/
Click Builder Assistance on the left Then click the Manuals tab.
Thanks,
Steve D
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