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1. 06:16 AM - Re: Re: Wanted Classic Build manual (Rowland Carson)
2. 10:07 AM - Foreign owner of British registered Europa (skanderup)
3. 10:49 AM - Re: Foreign owner of British registered Europa (Graham Singleton)
4. 10:53 AM - Re: Foreign owner of British registered Europa (Frans Veldman)
5. 11:32 AM - Re: Foreign owner of British registered Europa (zwakie)
6. 11:55 AM - Re: Foreign owner of British registered Europa (craig bastin)
7. 12:02 PM - Re: Foreign owner of British registered Europa (skanderup)
8. 12:04 PM - Re: Re: Foreign owner of British registered Europa (Graham Singleton)
9. 01:51 PM - Flap cross =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tube=2E=2E=2EI=B4m_not_going_mad?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?_=28I_think=29? (William Daniell)
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| Subject: | Re: Wanted Classic Build manual |
At 2010-01-09 16:37 -0800 SteveD wrote:
>I have the Combined Builders Manual on PDF
Steve - my impression was that the combined manual only came out at
the time of the XS and the "combined" part meant it covered both
monowheel & trigear, rather than Classic & XS.
Of course, I could be wrong (it happened once before!).
regards
Rowland
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| Subject: | Foreign owner of British registered Europa |
Hi All,
I would like to hear if anyone could guide me on the rules regarding foreign ownership
of an Europa which stays on British registration.
I have seen some good offers on British registered Europas for sale, however the
Danish regulations does not permit importation of an aircraft build according
to the experimental aircraft regulations. I am therefore exploring the option
of taking the plane to Denmark but keeping it on British registration.
I am looking for information on two issues in this regard:
1) Official registration requirements from the National authority
2) Requirements for maintenance and service to uphold certificates (LAA requirements
etc).
I look forward to the responce.
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| Subject: | Re: Foreign owner of British registered Europa |
You will have difficulty with the LAA. They might allow a short term
situation but unlikely permanent. Inspections would probably need to be
done in UK. If permit expires it would be illegal to test fly outside UK
Graham
On 10/01/2010 18:04, skanderup wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "skanderup"<allan_skanderup@hotmail.com>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I would like to hear if anyone could guide me on the rules regarding foreign
ownership of an Europa which stays on British registration.
>
> I have seen some good offers on British registered Europas for sale, however
the Danish regulations does not permit importation of an aircraft build according
to the experimental aircraft regulations. I am therefore exploring the option
of taking the plane to Denmark but keeping it on British registration.
>
> I am looking for information on two issues in this regard:
>
> 1) Official registration requirements from the National authority
> 2) Requirements for maintenance and service to uphold certificates (LAA requirements
etc).
>
> I look forward to the responce.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Foreign owner of British registered Europa |
On 01/10/2010 07:04 PM, skanderup wrote:
> I would like to hear if anyone could guide me on the rules regarding
> foreign ownership of an Europa which stays on British registration.
>
> I have seen some good offers on British registered Europas for sale,
> however the Danish regulations does not permit importation of an
> aircraft build according to the experimental aircraft regulations. I
> am therefore exploring the option of taking the plane to Denmark but
> keeping it on British registration.
The Brits don't care about it. But it is questionable whether the Danes
will allow you, citizen of Denmark, to own a foreign registered
experimental aircraft.
Frans
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| Subject: | Re: Foreign owner of British registered Europa |
Graham, are you sure about the LAA not being happy with that? The LAA did not make
any issue or gave me any warning about that when I bought mine a little over
a year ago.
You are right about test-flying outside of the UK once the permit has expired:
once expired, you have to test-fly within the UK.
Inspections can be done outside the UK though, the only requirement for that is
you have an LAA-inspector come over and do the inspection and sign of the paperwork.
>From practicality, keeping it on the UK register does pose some issues: it either
will be quite expensive (having to pay for travel/accomodation for having
an LAA-inspector fly over) or time-consuming (for having to fly to/from the UK
to perform the inspection). That was my main reason for moving mine to the Dutch
register.
Cheers
Marcel
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| Subject: | Foreign owner of British registered Europa |
Perhaps you could order a new engine mount from the factory and have the
"WORLDS FASTEST BUILD TIME" if you get my meaning
good luck
craig
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Frans
Veldman
Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Foreign owner of British registered Europa
On 01/10/2010 07:04 PM, skanderup wrote:
> I would like to hear if anyone could guide me on the rules regarding
> foreign ownership of an Europa which stays on British registration.
>
> I have seen some good offers on British registered Europas for sale,
> however the Danish regulations does not permit importation of an
> aircraft build according to the experimental aircraft regulations. I
> am therefore exploring the option of taking the plane to Denmark but
> keeping it on British registration.
The Brits don't care about it. But it is questionable whether the Danes
will allow you, citizen of Denmark, to own a foreign registered
experimental aircraft.
Frans
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| Subject: | Re: Foreign owner of British registered Europa |
Thanks for your replies until now, but I think I did not specify clearly that it
was an already completed aircraft I was looking at which had been flying several
hundred hours on British registration before being put up for sale.
I hope someone can help me out.
Thanks,
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| Subject: | Re: Foreign owner of British registered Europa |
Hi Marcel
No, I'm not sure. I used to inspect 2 Europas in Germany but PFA didn't
like it and said "never again" at the time but goal posts do have a
habit of moving
Graham
On 10/01/2010 19:29, zwakie wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "zwakie"<mz@cariama.nl>
>
> Graham, are you sure about the LAA not being happy with that? The LAA did not
make any issue or gave me any warning about that when I bought mine a little
over a year ago.
>
> You are right about test-flying outside of the UK once the permit has expired:
once expired, you have to test-fly within the UK.
>
> Inspections can be done outside the UK though, the only requirement for that
is you have an LAA-inspector come over and do the inspection and sign of the paperwork.
>
> > From practicality, keeping it on the UK register does pose some issues: it
either will be quite expensive (having to pay for travel/accomodation for having
an LAA-inspector fly over) or time-consuming (for having to fly to/from the
UK to perform the inspection). That was my main reason for moving mine to the
Dutch register.
>
> Cheers
> Marcel
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Flap cross =?ISO-8859-1?Q?tube=2E=2E=2EI=B4m_not_going_mad?= |
=?ISO-8859-1?Q?_=28I_think=29?
Well thanks for all your suggestions on the flap cross tube.
Fortunately I am not going mad - at least so it appears...the hard
points are different distances from the center line. the Left HP is
21.5 cm from the CL and the right one is 24cm from the CL.
Everything else is lined up.
* The bottom of the bend in the flap tube touches the fuselage on
the CL .
* tube is centered between the flaps
* the bases of the two flap pins where they screw unto the close out
are equidistant from the CL
As things are,
* the left slot would be cut only 1/8 from the edge of the left hard
point and
* the right slot would be cut 3/4 in from the right hand edge
putting the inner 3/16 holes of the hinge bracket (the ones
nearest the left hand edge of the right hand hard point only 3/8
from the edge of the hard print.
Is this normal?
One solution would be to reposition the flap tube brackets so that they
line up with the hard points.
Any other ideas?
Someone mentioned that some kits were made with this fault. Any idea of
what the factory solution was?
thanks in advance
Will
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