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     1. 11:05 AM - Re: Jabiru engines (Jeff B)
     2. 11:14 AM - Jabiru engines (Creighton Smith)
     3. 11:55 AM - COLD STARTING ROTAX 912S (Fergus Kyle)
     4. 12:48 PM - Re: was cold starting a 912S NOW does "burping" apply to the 914? (Robert C Harrison)
     5. 12:55 PM - Re: COLD STARTING ROTAX 912S (Robert Borger)
     6. 12:55 PM - Help with MDO Aircraft Wheels & Brakes in France (Robert Borger)
     7. 03:41 PM - Material for Instrument Panel (Steade)
     8. 03:52 PM - Re: Material for Instrument Panel (Jeff B)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Jabiru engines | 
      
      
      Actually, there are a few documented instances where the pressed Rotax 
      cranks have slipped, slightly, throwing the piston timing off enough to 
      cause vibrations.  Granted, this is the exception, but it does exist...
      
      Jeff - Baby Blue
      
      Gilles Thesee wrote:
      ... there are no specific crankshaft related failures on the Rotax,
      
      
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      Lots of good stuff.  Thanks John and Gilles and others.
      One thing about Jabiru installation perplexes me:  Every Jabiru 
      installation I have looked at over the years has had presumed cooling 
      issues addressed with little deflectors inside the cooling cowl which is 
      part of the engine package.
      This is heartening since it shows they (Jabiru) have been paying 
      attention.  The perplexing thing is:  why is there no provision for 
      inter-cylinder baffling?  Every air cooled engine I've ever seen has 
      these.  (Lycoming, Continental, Franklin, de Haviland, Ranger, LOM, P&W, 
      VW, Porsche... all except Jabiru, free air or fan cooled.  
      Not only for cylinder and head temps, but for cooling drag reduction it 
      is a good thing to make all the air entering the cowling do good, 
      efficient work removing heat from the engine.  
      Why?  What am I/we missing?  Jabiru installations have huge passages 
      between cylinders and heads so a lot of air rushes through (because 
      there's less resistance) rather than being directed through the head and 
      cylinder finning.
      I also agree that the Jabiru would benefit enormously from a 6-point 
      fuel injection system.  Or perhaps 2 of the Rotec "injectors".  It is 
      really hard to evenly distribute the relatively large fuel droplets 
      emerging from the Bing's mainjet well through the Jabiru's long, 
      serpentine induction passages.  Liquid doesn't go around corners, it 
      sheets out on the outside of bends and crawls downstream.  
      The major users of diaphragm (constant velocity) carbs, (Bing, Mikuni, 
      Keihin) are motorcycles and outboards and they are mounted on a straight 
      through manifold as close to the intake valve as practicable.  Not the 
      case on Rotax or, especially, Jabiru. 
      Sorry for the verbosity.
      Creighton Smith 
      A-036  
      
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| Subject:  | COLD STARTING ROTAX 912S | 
      
      I read with interest the thread about 'burping' the engine (shades of new
      grandchild). I wonder if this applies to 914's as well, since many facets
      are common to both?
      Ferg
      
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| Subject:  | was cold starting a 912S NOW does "burping" apply to | 
      the 914?
      
      Hi! Ferg.
      Yes it does, since the oil always drains in  to the sump. Burping it gets
      the oil pump primed full of  oil and all scavenged away to the tank and  so
      ensures hydraulic push rods earliest oil pressure is achieved on start up.
      It also primes the carbs with some fuel vapour. Not withstanding .."no burp"
      .no oil or bust pipe or  pump and that's the best time to find it !!.
      To prop the engine (mags off!) also gives you a distinct "feel" of any
      lacking cylinder compression.
      That's why I do mine myself.
      Regards and Happy New Year.
      Bob H G-PTAG 
      
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      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle
      Sent: 24 January 2010 19:55
      Subject: Europa-List: COLD STARTING ROTAX 912S
      
      I read with interest the thread about 'burping' the engine (shades of new
      grandchild). I wonder if this applies to 914's as well, since many facets
      are common to both?
      Ferg
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: COLD STARTING ROTAX 912S | 
      
      Ferg,
      
      Absolutely!
      
      Bob Borger
      Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
      http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
      Aircraft Flying!
      3705 Lynchburg Dr.
      Corinth, TX  76208
      Home:  940-497-2123
      Cel:  817-992-1117
      
      
      On Jan 24, 2010, at 13:54, Fergus Kyle wrote:
      
      > I read with interest the thread about =91burping=92 the engine (shades 
      of new grandchild). I wonder if this applies to 914=92s as well, since 
      many facets are common to both?
      > 
      > Ferg
      > 
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      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Help with MDO Aircraft Wheels & Brakes in France | 
      
      
      Europaphiles & Gilles,
      
      I would like to purchase the "MAITRE CYLINDRE DE FREIN <AU MANCHE>  from MDO Aircraft
      wheels and brakes, 40 Rue Barchalot, 64200 BIARRitZ.  I have contacted
      Mr. Denis Bastein and received a reply but after promising to send the complete
      brake setup for the Europa within two weeks back in November, I have heard nothing
      since.  He no longer responds to my e-mail.  
      
      I would greatly appreciate assistance from anyone in Europe, especially France,
      in the purchase of this devise configured for the Europa.  If you have to purchase
      it for me I can arrange for transfer of the necessary funds or allow charge
      to my Pay Pal account.
      
      Thanks in advance,
      Bob Borger
      Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
      http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
      Aircraft Flying!
      3705 Lynchburg Dr.
      Corinth, TX  76208
      Home:  940-497-2123
      Cel:  817-992-1117
      
      
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| Subject:  | Material for Instrument Panel | 
      
      I'm just about ready to order the material for the sub panels to carry 
      the instruments in the panel molding. Any guidance on material 
      specification and thickness would be helpful
      
      
      Regards
      
      David 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Material for Instrument Panel | 
      
      
      My panel is built from .063" aluminum.  Very ridged and light weight. 
      Available at sign suppliers.
      
      Jeff - Baby Blue
      
      Steade wrote:
      > I'm just about ready to order the material for the sub panels to carry 
      > the instruments in the panel molding. Any guidance on material 
      > specification and thickness would be helpful
      >  
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      > Regards
      >  
      > David
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