---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 01/30/10: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:46 PM - Lifting the Europa (Troy Maynor) 2. 01:42 PM - Re: Lifting the Europa (craig bastin) 3. 10:49 PM - Re: Lifting the Europa (JR Gowing) 4. 11:13 PM - Re: Lifting the Europa (craig bastin) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:43 PM PST US From: "Troy Maynor" Subject: Europa-List: Lifting the Europa Hey Guys and Gals, When folks talk about lifting a Europa by the engine mount are they referring to the mount forward of the lord mounts or aft of the lord mounts? I need to lift my Classic monowheel for maintenance in the garage without the wings on it. I am thinking about having a welded stand with the hydraulic jack added like someone on the forum made for lifting, but the exhaust pipe is in the way on the port side. I need to get the weight off the tire to fiddle with the brace for the landing gear handle mod. It was too stiff laterally as I remember from last I did it. I made too fancy of a brace than the angle stock I had on earlier. That was before the engine was installed and things were easier then. Thoughts, ideas anyone? Troy Maynor Monowheel Classic UK120 Passed inspection, first flight soon. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:19 PM PST US From: "craig bastin" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Lifting the Europa If you still have the dummy spar, perhaps you could make/get made a steel tube with the correct spacing to replicate the main spar setup, and jack from there craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Troy Maynor Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:43 AM To: europa-list@matronics.com Subject: Europa-List: Lifting the Europa Hey Guys and Gals, When folks talk about lifting a Europa by the engine mount are they referring to the mount forward of the lord mounts or aft of the lord mounts? I need to lift my Classic monowheel for maintenance in the garage without the wings on it. I am thinking about having a welded stand with the hydraulic jack added like someone on the forum made for lifting, but the exhaust pipe is in the way on the port side. I need to get the weight off the tire to fiddle with the brace for the landing gear handle mod. It was too stiff laterally as I remember from last I did it. I made too fancy of a brace than the angle stock I had on earlier. That was before the engine was installed and things were easier then. Thoughts, ideas anyone? Troy Maynor Monowheel Classic UK120 Passed inspection, first flight soon. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:33 PM PST US From: "JR Gowing" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Lifting the Europa craig I think you could lift from just about any part of the engine mount At the moment my fuselage is more or less hangine from the propeller boss w ith a little stabilisation JR Bob Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz.. ----- Original Message ----- From: craig bastin To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 8:46 AM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Lifting the Europa If you still have the dummy spar, perhaps you could make/get made a steel tube with the correct spacing to replicate the main spar setup, and jack f rom there craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list- server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Troy Maynor Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 6:43 AM To: europa-list@matronics.com Subject: Europa-List: Lifting the Europa Hey Guys and Gals, When folks talk about lifting a Europa by the engine mount are they ref erring to the mount forward of the lord mounts or aft of the lord mounts=3F I need to lift my Classic monowheel for maintenance in the garage without th e wings on it. I am thinking about having a welded stand with the hydraulic jack added like someone on the forum made for lifting, but the exhaust pip e is in the way on the port side. I need to get the weight off the tire to fiddle with the brace for the landing gear handle mod. It was too stiff lat erally as I remember from last I did it. I made too fancy of a brace than t he angle stock I had on earlier. That was before the engine was installed a nd things were easier then. Thoughts, ideas anyone=3F Troy Maynor Monowheel Classic UK120 Passed inspection, first flight soon. href==22http://www.matronics.com/Navigator=3FEuropa-List=22>http://www.matronhref ==22http://forums.matronics.com=22>http://forums.matronics.com href==22http://www.matronics.com/contribution=22>http://www.matronics.com/c =5F-=========================================================== =5F-= - The Europa-List Email Forum - =5F-= Use the Matronics List Features Navigator to browse =5F-= the many List utilities such as List Un/Subscription, =5F-= Archive Search & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, =5F-= Photoshare, and much much more: =5F- =5F-= --> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator=3FEuropa-List =5F- =5F-=========================================================== =5F-= - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - =5F-= Same great content also available via the Web Forums! =5F- =5F-= --> http://forums.matronics.com =5F- =5F-=========================================================== =5F-= - List Contribution Web Site - =5F-= Thank you for your generous support! =5F-= -Matt Dralle, List Admin. =5F-= --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution =5F-=========================================================== --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 07:35:00 -- We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. The Professional version does not have this message ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:13:15 PM PST US From: "craig bastin" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Lifting the Europa I just had concerns about asymetric loading of the mount itself, given the mount is designed for a "tension" load pulling forward under normal flight conditions, but given it has to support the weight of the engine at 8G ultimate load which is about 600kg depending on engine choice, you are probably correct. craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of JR Gowing Sent: Sunday, January 31, 2010 4:27 PM To: europa-list@matronics.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Lifting the Europa craig I think you could lift from just about any part of the engine mount At the moment my fuselage is more or less hangine from the propeller boss with a little stabilisation JR Bob Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz.. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.