---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/11/10: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:15 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/10/10 (Martin Boyle) 2. 03:48 AM - Oil Thermostat - X-Air's new version (Peter Zutrauen) 3. 05:48 AM - Re: Oil Thermostat - X-Air's new version (G-IANI) 4. 06:54 AM - Demisting and GPS aerials (David Corbett) 5. 07:03 AM - Bosch pressure switch (Mike) 6. 11:01 PM - Location for temperature sender/s (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us) 7. 11:10 PM - Re: Location for temperature sender/s (duanefamly@aol.com) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:09 AM PST US From: "Martin Boyle" Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/10/10 Thank you for your advise it is appreciated and I will act on it Martin --- Original Message ----- From: "Europa-List Digest Server" Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 5:57 PM Subject: Europa-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 02/10/10 > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. 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The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-02-10&Archive=Europa > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 10-02-10&Archive=Europa > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Europa-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Wed 02/10/10: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 04:18 PM - Re: Mono wheel conversion (Bud Yerly) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 04:18:03 PM PST US > From: "Bud Yerly" > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mono wheel conversion > > Martin, > Not to pile on, but I have fit a number of large pilots to the Europa. > It has been my experience, that the only area of the tunnel that is a > nuisance to the tall pilot is the area where the knee hits center > console. A football shaped cutout there is typically all that is > needed. I have seen some Europa's with the console cut down very low, > and I share the comments with others that a lot of stiffness of the > fuselage is given up by cutting down this area. You are compromising > the aircraft. The Europa provides more than reasonable protection as > is. Short story: On two nose low (25 degree impacts in landing > accidents) one with the full console, the other was cut down a modest > 3-4 inches. On both the floor of the fuselage behind the rudders > flexed, which compromised that area. One aircraft had under the door > electrical conduits installed of 4 layers of glass measuring roughly 3 > inches deep and level with the sill and a full console, with a cut out > where the throttle would be. This area was glassed in with a flange of > 4 layers of 8 oz bid and a cover panel of 6-8 layers of bid. It > maintained very good fuselage stiffness with only nose damage when the > nose gear failed after about the 4th porpoise. The floor had a minor > deformity in the glass from flexing, but was easily repaired. The pilot > opened the door and stepped out. The other aircraft actually split the > fuselage side 6 inches forward of the door sill when the fuselage floor > flexed. The console was cut down some 4 inches beginning below the > instrument panel face continuing all the way back to the bulkhead and > had no under sill conduits. The side of the fuselage cracked due to the > nose flexing downward. Some foot injuries were incurred as the fuselage > flexed to the point of cracking from the consol up to the windscreen. > Foot injury occurred as a result of the rudder pedals deflecting as the > fuselage skidded along. Both accidents were pilot error and no names > will be released so don't ask. > > It would be best to make a modest console adjustment to fit your form. > I have found for pilots your size that the hi top mod 63 is very > comfortable and the extra width mod 67 is also a must have. If your kit > is too far along for the high top, the bubble door glass is one of my > favorite mods also. These higher top mods allow you to slide aft a bit > and get another inch of headroom and less knee height. All the above > can be purchased through the company. I know I'm kicking myself for not > doing the width increase as it is quite comfortable. The high top is > quite impressive. > > As for how to re-establish strength in your console after cutting it > out, please properly prep and add foam to fill the void, prep the foam > and add two layers of bid overlapping two inches around the hole on the > inside and out... As for the hole in the bottom, consider adding a > bulkhead behind the nose gear of 1/8 inch (3mm) aircraft ply and > glassing it in with two layers. This is a help to stiffening the plane > also besides allowing for a generous cooling air exit if the mono wheel > firewall is removed. Be sure to protect the new bulkhead and console > inside exposed to the engine with firewall material of your choice. > Then close the bottom hole, and if you like, add a large inspection hole > on the bottom for maintenance of in console items. A glassed in hole > adds for stiffness and impact strength also. > > Top it off with a back cushion about 1 inch thick or 1/2 inch of firm > foam and a contoured seat cushion to suite and you will be comfortable. > > Bud Yerly > Custom Flight Creations, > US Europa Dealer > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Martin Boyle > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Sent: Monday, February 08, 2010 6:24 PM > Subject: Europa-List: Mono wheel conversion > > > Hi To All > I have purchased a part built mono wheel kit and may want to convert > it to TRI gear.When I do this can I remove the consol in the middle as I > find there is not enough room for me as I am 6ft3in tall and 96kg.Has > anybody done this and ois it a factory mod > Thanks M A B > > MAB123 le&u=708> > Registered User > Posts: 1 > Joined: Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:34 pm > a.. Private > message action=quotepost&p=25293> > > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List avigator?Europa-List> > http://www.matronics.com/contribution on> > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:48:17 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Oil Thermostat - X-Air's new version From: Peter Zutrauen I know there has been some discussion about oil thermostats recently on the forum. This new one from X-Air appears smaller/lighter than the automotive version I've seen in the past. Beyond that, I have no further info/experience. Cheers, Pete A239 *X-Air Australia Newsletter* ** Every now and again something new comes along which stops you in your track s because it is just such a good idea and a unique product. I have just come across one of these products and it's a specially designed thermostat system designed to regulate the oil temperature on engines like the Rotax and Jabiru. We are all aware of the damage which can be caused by running your aircraft engine oil temperature too low, in fact it has always been recommended to get the oil temperature just over 100=B0C during each flight to burn off th e water which can contaminate the engine oil, if you are flying time and time again and the engine temperature is only getting to say 85=B0C the water wi ll remain in your oil as a contaminant and can go on to destroy your engine with corrosion problems. Additionally, warmup is achieved very quickly on even the coldest of days because the thermostat diverts the oil flow from the oil cooler. Made in the USA these special oil thermostat units are designed to quickly allow your engine to reach and maintain its optimum operating temperature even on the coldest of days. CNC machined from 6061-T6 the unit is anodised with the type 2 surface finish to protect the thermostat long-term against corrosion. All of the hardware is aircraft grade and the oil thermostat unit is finished to the highest possible standards and is supplied with hose nipples to fit the mos t common oil tubing diameter used by Rotax and Jabiru. There are a number of benefits in using an oil thermostat in your aircraft which include fuel savings resulting from quick warmup times and engine operation at optimum oil temperature which also increases engine life because the engine is being operated at the correct oil temperature. *Stage 1* Cold oil: the internal oil bypass is open, allowing incoming oil to bypass the oil cooler and returned directly to the engine significantly reducing warmup time. *Stage 2* As the oil reaches the desired operating temperature the internal bypass partially closes, automatically regulating and controlling flow through bot h the internal bypass AND the external oil cooler so that desired operating temperature is maintained. *Stage 3* Hot oil: the internal bypass closes completely, directing 98% of the total oil flow through the oil cooler. Under these conditions, the all temperatur e is limited by the cooling capacity of the external oil cooler. I have been asked the same questions by most of the people I have shown thi s thermostat unit to... *Will it reduce my oil pressure?* The simple answer is no installing an oil temperature thermostat may slightly increase your oil pressure when it is most needed during cold starts. It offers a shorter, less restrictive flow path to the lubricating oil while the engine is cold. The cold oil bypasses the oil cooler and eliminating the small pressure drop that would otherwise occur. *Can it block the flow of oil?* No, it cannot block the flow of oil in an y circumstances whether operating normally or in a failed condition, it is impossible for the unit to block the flow of oil or the oil circuit. *What is the warranty period?* The warranty period of the oil thermostat is two years. *How big is the unit?* The unit is really small being 55mm high, 55mm long (without the hose barbs) and just 40mm deep, the unit can be bolted to the firewall or a bracket with the two 3/16" mounting holes. *Most important... The Cost?* The cost of the oil thermostat with oil hos e nipples is only $200 AU$ plug GST and delivery. More information through the Australian distributor X-Air Australia 07 5568 7770 or http://www.mcp.com.au/ ------------------------------ You are receiving this e-mail because you are subscribed to our newsletter service. If you do not wish to receive these e-mails any longer please repl y to this e-mail with the word *remove* in the subject line. I am peterz@zutrasoft.com. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:48:41 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Oil Thermostat - X-Air's new version Pete This is a very nicely made thermostat. but quite expensive. ConAir have decided to market it in the UK. I am just finishing off the Standard Mod application to the LAA for both this and the Permacool. The Permacool is a lot cheaper. Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 280 hours Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear) e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:54:55 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Demisting and GPS aerials From: "David Corbett" Here are two (almost) nil cost ways to cope with demisting: 1 Mount the panel on half inch (or similar) shock mounts, and as soon as you have done your power checks and got moving, the radio(s) heat convecting upwards through the resulting gap will keep you demisted. 2 If you get misted up before starting the take-off run, open the pilot door by an inch or two for a minute or two, and that will clear the initial mist-up. And - the GPS aerial for my GNS 430 is mounted on the roof, between the doors. David G-BZAM ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:03:02 AM PST US From: "Mike" Subject: Europa-List: Bosch pressure switch I plan to use the bosch switch 0344 101 055 to sense low fuel pressure on my rotax 912 s. I need an adapter to connect the switch to the fuel hose. Does anyone know if such is available or, if not, then what is the thread on the switch body? Thanks Mike Gamble G-cfmp ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:14 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Location for temperature sender/s From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Hi Group Ihave an Ilec SC-7 variometer with ability to display temperature. It comes with one sender which is a little 3/16" cylinder with a flat on it. It's a pottedsemicondoctor. I was thinkingI could use multiple senders with a selector switch. What is your favorite location to place senderto detect OAT? Which location/s under cowl on a Europa is it desirable to know the temperatures of (Rotax 9124)? any other locations that may be desirable to know temp of? Under instrument module? Inside cockpit? (what location). Thx. Ron Parigoris ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:10:09 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Location for temperature sender/s From: duanefamly@aol.com Ron, I have Dyson D-100 and have mounted the OAT sensor inside the NACA vent in the left side of the lower cowl that feeds air to the airbox so I can mon itor for carb icing. Mike Duane Redding, California XS Conventional gear Jabiru 3300 -----Original Message----- From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Sent: Thu, Feb 11, 2010 10:59 pm Subject: Europa-List: Location for temperature sender/s Hi Group I have an Ilec SC-7 variometer with ability to display temperature. It com es with one sender which is a little 3/16" cylinder with a flat on it. It' s a potted semicondoctor. I was thinking I could use multiple senders with a selector switch. What is your favorite location to place sender to dete ct OAT? Which location/s under cowl on a Europa is it desirable to know th e temperatures of (Rotax 9124)? any other locations that may be desirable to know temp of? Under instrument module? Inside cockpit? (what location) .. Thx. 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