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1. 06:56 AM - Naca Vent Position (Steade)
2. 09:06 AM - Spare blades wanted for NSI CAP140 (Pete Lawless)
3. 11:59 AM - Re: Hydraulic brake hose (Mike Parkin)
4. 11:59 AM - Re: Spare blades wanted for NSI CAP140 == NOW SORTED = WARP DRIVE SUPPLY AND MAXWELL PROPULSION WILL FIT!! (Pete Lawless)
5. 03:50 PM - Re: Hydraulic brake hose (Robert Borger)
6. 03:50 PM - Re: Hydraulic brake hose (Bob Borger)
7. 05:16 PM - Re: Hydraulic brake hose (Fred Klein)
8. 05:45 PM - Re: Hydraulic brake hose (Martin Boyle)
9. 06:15 PM - Re: Hydraulic brake hose (Robert Borger)
10. 07:19 PM - Re: Hydraulic brake hose (Kevin Klinefelter)
11. 07:23 PM - Re: Hydraulic brake hose (Kevin Klinefelter)
12. 11:34 PM - Re: Hydraulic brake hose (JR Gowing)
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Subject: | Naca Vent Position |
I'm trying to find the recommended position for the Naca fresh air vents
in the front fuselage side. I understand that at one time the factory
recommended a position and produced a drawing. From an approval point of
view with the LAA it would help considerably if I stayed with this
recommendation.
If anyone has access to this drawing then a copy would be greatly
appreciated.
Regards
David Steade
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Subject: | Spare blades wanted for NSI CAP140 |
Hi All
Due to a woopsy this morning my NSI CAP 140 finds itself short of blades.
Does anyone have a set of 62 inch tapered blades they wish to dispose of. I
will take a complete CAP 140 if you want to get rid of the lot.
Thanks
Pete
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Subject: | Hydraulic brake hose |
Hello Bob and anyone else wanting the monowheel brake info,
I went to the hydraulic store to day, fortunately he had a computer record
of what I bought last year.
You need,
. G-5093-03 Banjo-03 20 deg 10mm.
. G-1012-03P 1/8" bsp Banjo Bolt Steel.
. CW-02P 1/8" bsp Plain Copper Washer (2 off)
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p2936/LE-BANJO-20-3/8-POUR-ALLER-%C3%80-3/
product_info.html
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p2083/BANJO-BOLT-1/8-BSP-STEEL/product_inf
o.html
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=1%2F8+
bsp+copper+washer
I feel sure you must be able to buy these parts in the USA, if not email me
and I will sort it for you.
Regards,
Mike
Do not archive.
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robert Borger
Sent: 06 March 2010 18:24
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hydraulic brake hose
Mike,
You wouldn't happen to have the specs for that fitting would you?
I'm working on my brakes and that fitting would be perfect.
Bob Borger
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On Mar 6, 2010, at 11:58, Mike Parkin <mikenjulie.parkin@btinternet.com>
wrote:
Hi,
I think that the photograph is one I took of my monowheel brake
installation. The hose actually came from France but is readily available
from a good hydraulic parts merchant in the UK, as is the banjo coupling.
Regards,
Mike
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of mau11
Sent: 06 March 2010 16:55
Subject: Europa-List: Hydraulic brake hose
Hi all,
I see this picture on web site but I don't remember where!
I am interested to install this hose and banjo on my brake, does anyone know
where it is possible to buy this assembly?
Thanks
_____
mau11
06-03-2010
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Subject: | Spare blades wanted for NSI CAP140 == NOW SORTED = WARP |
DRIVE SUPPLY AND MAXWELL PROPULSION WILL FIT!!
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Pete Lawless
Sent: 08 March 2010 16:58
Subject: Europa-List: Spare blades wanted for NSI CAP140
Hi All
Due to a woopsy this morning my NSI CAP 140 finds itself short of blades.
Does anyone have a set of 62 inch tapered blades they wish to dispose of. I
will take a complete CAP 140 if you want to get rid of the lot.
Thanks
Pete
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Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brake hose |
Mike,
Thanks for the information. I have placed an order through Merlin as
the same hose-end banjo does not seem to be available here in the U.S.
I have ordered some other bits from a California distributor which may
allow me to keep the original Europa hand brake for the co-pilot use
should it become necessary. We'll see how it all works out when all the
bits have arrived.
Thanks very much,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Mar 8, 2010, at 13:29, Mike Parkin wrote:
> Hello Bob and anyone else wanting the monowheel brake info,
>
> I went to the hydraulic store to day, fortunately he had a computer
record of what I bought last year.
>
> You need,
>
> =B7 G-5093-03 Banjo-03 20 deg 10mm.
> =B7 G-1012-03P 1/8=94 bsp Banjo Bolt Steel.
> =B7 CW-02P 1/8=94 bsp Plain Copper Washer (2 off)
>
>
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p2936/LE-BANJO-20-3/8-POUR-ALLER-%C3%80-
3/product_info.html
>
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p2083/BANJO-BOLT-1/8-BSP-STEEL/product_i
nfo.html
>
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=1%
2F8+bsp+copper+washer
>
> I feel sure you must be able to buy these parts in the USA, if not
email me and I will sort it for you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Mike
>
> Do not archive.
>
>
>
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Subject: | Hydraulic brake hose |
Mike,
OK, I see what you have there. Yes, the same banjo parts are available here on this side of the pond (http://www.anplumbing.com).
I had hoped that what you used was a banjo hose end. Now that I know what you
did, I need to locate a proper female AN flared fitting hose end to replace the
90 degree hose end provided. Perhaps I can go to anplumbing.com and find the
hose end as they have the banjo, bolt and washers.
Thanks muchly for your help,
Bob Borger
PS - That also means that I can use the same sort of banjo setup on the bottom
of the Europa supplied hand master cylinder.
That provides interesting opportunities.
On Monday, March 08, 2010, at 01:29PM, "Mike Parkin" <mikenjulie.parkin@btinternet.com>
wrote:
>
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Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brake hose |
Mike, et al,
After following and just now reviewing this thread, I find I'm not
clear as to just what the issues are with the stock Europa XS mono
brake, apart from the substitution of a stick-mounted motorcycle-type
hand grip for the stock, tunnel-mounted, hand brake/master cylinder.
I do understand the desirability of having 2 right hands during run-up
with the stock setup, and consequently, I fashioned a detent for the
hand brake as shown in the attached photo. Whether or not the detent
will hold the brake full-on during runup is not known, but for the
time being I'm hoping it will serve while I progress w/ other more
challenging aspects of my build.
So here's a question...If one were to retain the stock XS mono hand
brake lever and master cylinder, are there issues with the kit-
supplied hydraulic line and its connection to the wheel mounted brake
assembly which warrant substitution using the recently posted banjo
fittings?
Fred
A194
On Mar 8, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Mike Parkin wrote:
> Hello Bob and anyone else wanting the monowheel brake info,
>
> I went to the hydraulic store to day, fortunately he had a computer
> record of what I bought last year.
>
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Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brake hose |
Hi Mike if you try this company in USA they can supply most hoses and
fittings in steel and stainless steel fittings and hoses as well as
rubber hoses
Martin
http://brakequip.com/tubes.html
From: Robert Borger
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hydraulic brake hose
Mike,
Thanks for the information. I have placed an order through Merlin as
the same hose-end banjo does not seem to be available here in the U.S.
I have ordered some other bits from a California distributor which may
allow me to keep the original Europa hand brake for the co-pilot use
should it become necessary. We'll see how it all works out when all the
bits have arrived.
Thanks very much,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Mar 8, 2010, at 13:29, Mike Parkin wrote:
Hello Bob and anyone else wanting the monowheel brake info,
I went to the hydraulic store to day, fortunately he had a computer
record of what I bought last year.
You need,
=B7 G-5093-03 Banjo-03 20 deg 10mm.
=B7 G-1012-03P 1/8=94 bsp Banjo Bolt Steel.
=B7 CW-02P 1/8=94 bsp Plain Copper Washer (2 off)
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p2936/LE-BANJO-20-3/8-POUR-ALLER-%C3%80
-3/product_info.html
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/p2083/BANJO-BOLT-1/8-BSP-STEEL/product_
info.html
http://www.merlinmotorsport.co.uk/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=1
%2F8+bsp+copper+washer
I feel sure you must be able to buy these parts in the USA, if not
email me and I will sort it for you.
Regards,
Mike
Do not archive.
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Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brake hose |
Hi Fred,
Ya, the stock factory configuration simply requires too many hands for my complete
comfort. It works, but the right hand can be quite busy between the throttle
and brake.
There's a very fine line on the throttle friction between difficult to operate
and having the throttle spring slowly slip the throttle forward. And it isn't
the easiest thing to adjust that friction either.
Then there's the lack of a parking brake to hold things during run-up. Hold the
stick in your knees, the brake in the right hand and reach across with the left
to set the throttle. The one-armed paper hanger comes to mind.
The stick mounted master solves all those problems easily.
There are no issues on the brake end of things if you stick with the stock setup.
The issue arises when you want to switch out to the stick mounted brake.
All the brake fittings are straight threads not pipe threads so AN816 nipple adaptors
from NPT to Flared Tube don't work. But a nice banjo fitting with banjo
bolt work just jim dandy.
I'll be posting a few pics from my trials and tribulations as soon as I send this
.
Hope this helps,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Mar 8, 2010, at 14:57, Fred Klein wrote:
> Mike, et al,
>
> After following and just now reviewing this thread, I find I'm not clear as to
just what the issues are with the stock Europa XS mono brake, apart from the
substitution of a stick-mounted motorcycle-type hand grip for the stock, tunnel-mounted,
hand brake/master cylinder.
>
> I do understand the desirability of having 2 right hands during run-up with the
stock setup, and consequently, I fashioned a detent for the hand brake as shown
in the attached photo. Whether or not the detent will hold the brake full-on
during runup is not known, but for the time being I'm hoping it will serve
while I progress w/ other more challenging aspects of my build.
>
> So here's a question...If one were to retain the stock XS mono hand brake lever
and master cylinder, are there issues with the kit-supplied hydraulic line
and its connection to the wheel mounted brake assembly which warrant substitution
using the recently posted banjo fittings?
>
> Fred
> A194<DSCN0079.jpg>
>
>
> On Mar 8, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Mike Parkin wrote:
>
>> Hello Bob and anyone else wanting the monowheel brake info,
>>
>> I went to the hydraulic store to day, fortunately he had a computer record of
what I bought last year.
>>
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Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brake hose |
Have you considered the Matco parking brake valve? I was told of it
during the build by others, and am very pleased with the way it
functions. It holds the brake on for days. I can do a full power runnup
and it holds, no hands! I hold the stick between the knees so the left
hand can operate the mag switches.
Will you also have the factory brake master which can be operated from
the right seat?
Kevin
Then there's the lack of a parking brake to hold things during run-up.
Hold the stick in your knees, the brake in the right hand and reach
across with the left to set the throttle. The one-armed paper hanger
comes to mind.
There are no issues on the brake end of things if you stick with the
stock setup. The issue arises when you want to switch out to the stick
mounted brake. All the brake fittings are straight threads not pipe
threads so AN816 nipple adaptors from NPT to Flared Tube don't work.
But a nice banjo fitting with banjo bolt work just jim dandy.
I'll be posting a few pics from my trials and tribulations as soon as
I send this .
Hope this helps,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Mar 8, 2010, at 14:57, Fred Klein wrote:
Mike, et al,
After following and just now reviewing this thread, I find I'm not
clear as to just what the issues are with the stock Europa XS mono
brake, apart from the substitution of a stick-mounted motorcycle-type
hand grip for the stock, tunnel-mounted, hand brake/master cylinder.
I do understand the desirability of having 2 right hands during
run-up with the stock setup, and consequently, I fashioned a detent for
the hand brake as shown in the attached photo. Whether or not the detent
will hold the brake full-on during runup is not known, but for the time
being I'm hoping it will serve while I progress w/ other more
challenging aspects of my build.
So here's a question...If one were to retain the stock XS mono hand
brake lever and master cylinder, are there issues with the kit-supplied
hydraulic line and its connection to the wheel mounted brake assembly
which warrant substitution using the recently posted banjo fittings?
Fred
A194<DSCN0079.jpg>
On Mar 8, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Mike Parkin wrote:
Hello Bob and anyone else wanting the monowheel brake info,
I went to the hydraulic store to day, fortunately he had a
computer record of what I bought last year.
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Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brake hose |
Have you considered the Matco parking brake valve? I was told of it
during the build by others, and am very pleased with the way it
functions. It holds the brake on for days. I can do a full power runnup
and it holds, no hands! I hold the stick between the knees so the left
hand can operate the mag switches.
Will you also have the factory brake master which can be operated from
the right seat?
Kevin
Then there's the lack of a parking brake to hold things during run-up.
Hold the stick in your knees, the brake in the right hand and reach
across with the left to set the throttle. The one-armed paper hanger
comes to mind.
There are no issues on the brake end of things if you stick with the
stock setup. The issue arises when you want to switch out to the stick
mounted brake. All the brake fittings are straight threads not pipe
threads so AN816 nipple adaptors from NPT to Flared Tube don't work.
But a nice banjo fitting with banjo bolt work just jim dandy.
I'll be posting a few pics from my trials and tribulations as soon as
I send this .
Hope this helps,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Mar 8, 2010, at 14:57, Fred Klein wrote:
Mike, et al,
After following and just now reviewing this thread, I find I'm not
clear as to just what the issues are with the stock Europa XS mono
brake, apart from the substitution of a stick-mounted motorcycle-type
hand grip for the stock, tunnel-mounted, hand brake/master cylinder.
I do understand the desirability of having 2 right hands during
run-up with the stock setup, and consequently, I fashioned a detent for
the hand brake as shown in the attached photo. Whether or not the detent
will hold the brake full-on during runup is not known, but for the time
being I'm hoping it will serve while I progress w/ other more
challenging aspects of my build.
So here's a question...If one were to retain the stock XS mono hand
brake lever and master cylinder, are there issues with the kit-supplied
hydraulic line and its connection to the wheel mounted brake assembly
which warrant substitution using the recently posted banjo fittings?
Fred
A194<DSCN0079.jpg>
On Mar 8, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Mike Parkin wrote:
Hello Bob and anyone else wanting the monowheel brake info,
I went to the hydraulic store to day, fortunately he had a
computer record of what I bought last year.
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Subject: | Re: Hydraulic brake hose |
Bob
It used to be said that you have a tethered wedge to drop into the space
vacated when you apply the brake and this will hold the pressure.
JR kit 327 in Oz
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----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Borger
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hydraulic brake hose
Hi Fred,
Ya, the stock factory configuration simply requires too many hands for
my complete comfort. It works, but the right hand can be quite busy
between the throttle and brake.
There's a very fine line on the throttle friction between difficult to
operate and having the throttle spring slowly slip the throttle forward.
And it isn't the easiest thing to adjust that friction either.
Then there's the lack of a parking brake to hold things during run-up.
Hold the stick in your knees, the brake in the right hand and reach
across with the left to set the throttle. The one-armed paper hanger
comes to mind.
The stick mounted master solves all those problems easily.
There are no issues on the brake end of things if you stick with the
stock setup. The issue arises when you want to switch out to the stick
mounted brake. All the brake fittings are straight threads not pipe
threads so AN816 nipple adaptors from NPT to Flared Tube don't work.
But a nice banjo fitting with banjo bolt work just jim dandy.
I'll be posting a few pics from my trials and tribulations as soon as
I send this .
Hope this helps,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Mar 8, 2010, at 14:57, Fred Klein wrote:
Mike, et al,
After following and just now reviewing this thread, I find I'm not
clear as to just what the issues are with the stock Europa XS mono
brake, apart from the substitution of a stick-mounted motorcycle-type
hand grip for the stock, tunnel-mounted, hand brake/master cylinder.
I do understand the desirability of having 2 right hands during
run-up with the stock setup, and consequently, I fashioned a detent for
the hand brake as shown in the attached photo. Whether or not the detent
will hold the brake full-on during runup is not known, but for the time
being I'm hoping it will serve while I progress w/ other more
challenging aspects of my build.
So here's a question...If one were to retain the stock XS mono hand
brake lever and master cylinder, are there issues with the kit-supplied
hydraulic line and its connection to the wheel mounted brake assembly
which warrant substitution using the recently posted banjo fittings?
Fred
A194<DSCN0079.jpg>
On Mar 8, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Mike Parkin wrote:
Hello Bob and anyone else wanting the monowheel brake info,
I went to the hydraulic store to day, fortunately he had a
computer record of what I bought last year.
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