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1. 12:54 AM - Autopilot Servo Location (Martin Tuck)
2. 01:48 AM - Re: Autopilot Servo Location (Philip Levi)
3. 02:25 AM - Re: Autopilot Servo Location (Mike Parkin)
4. 02:25 AM - Re: Autopilot Servo Location (Brian Davies)
5. 02:55 AM - Re: Autopilot Servo Location (G-IANI)
6. 02:57 AM - Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? (JR Gowing)
7. 03:49 AM - Europa UK parts supply (Tony Renshaw)
8. 03:50 AM - Re: Ivan's email (Frans Veldman)
9. 03:52 AM - Re: Autopilot Servo Location (Paul Mitchell)
10. 04:50 AM - Re: Ivan's email (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
11. 04:57 AM - Re: Ivan's email (Marcel Zwakenberg)
12. 05:11 AM - Re: Europa UK parts supply (Kevin Challis)
13. 06:24 AM - Re: Door hinges to fuselage (William Daniell)
14. 06:24 AM - Re: Ivan's email (Robert C Harrison)
15. 06:24 AM - Re: Door hinges to fuselage (William Daniell)
16. 07:12 AM - fuel fires vs. oil fires? (Fergus Kyle)
17. 08:29 AM - Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? (rampil)
18. 08:48 AM - Re: Ivan's email (Frans Veldman)
19. 08:52 AM - Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? (PETER HARROD)
20. 09:13 AM - Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? (Peter Zutrauen)
21. 09:16 AM - Re: Door hinges to fuselage (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
22. 09:38 AM - Re: Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? (Robert C Harrison)
23. 09:39 AM - Re: Door hinges to fuselage (William Daniell)
24. 02:34 PM - Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? (rampil)
25. 03:25 PM - Re: Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? (JR Gowing)
26. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? (Fred Klein)
27. 04:43 PM - Re: Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
28. 05:46 PM - Re: Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? (Fred Klein)
29. 06:47 PM - Re: Europa Servos (Martin Tuck)
30. 07:59 PM - Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? (Don Heath)
31. 09:44 PM - Re: Re: Europa Servos (JR Gowing)
32. 09:44 PM - Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? (JR Gowing)
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Subject: | Autopilot Servo Location |
Hi Folks,
I'm still considering a panel refurb - out with the pneumatic system and
in with an EFIS - I really like the Dynon Skyview.
Anyone installed autopilot servos? I think I've seen some roll servos
installed under the seat but I've not seen pitch servo installation.
Does anyone have any drawings/photos?
Regards,
Martin Tuck
N152MT
Wichita, Kansas
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Subject: | Re: Autopilot Servo Location |
Martin
One of the best altitude hold (dual axis) autopilots is the Trio Pilot Pro.
Excellent full details are on the Trio web site.
I was in correspondence with Paul Mitchell, the UK agent for Trio last
December and he was in touch with Andy Draper of the UK Light Aircraft
Association which were in the process of giving it approval for the Europa.
The relevant correspondence copied to me was:
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Draper
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: PP into a Europa
Hi Paul,
Europa are on the verge of launching Mod 76 which covers the altitude hold
aspect (awaiting flight test results) and the wing leveller part is covered
by the recently introduced Mod 75. Mod 75 effectively replaces SM10507
which has been around for a while now. They've opted for in-house mods to
cover the rest of the world.
Mods 75 and 76 will be treated as Facory Options now, but both will require
inspection checks and flight test autorised by LAA Engineering issued PFRC
(as laid down in the mod leaflets).
Andy
From: Paul Mitchell [mailto:pm@tecnam.co.uk]
Sent: 02 December 2009 10:59
Subject: PP into a Europa
Andy,
What is the currant position in fitting a PP into a Europa.Is it a standard
mod yet.
Any info gratefully received.
Paul
Note the reference to *in-house mods for the rest of the world*.
You will find it is a very neat and light weight unit at modest cost
compared to the competition. However, I do not speak from experience. I
plan to purchase it probably later this year after it has been approved by
the LAA.
Philip Levi
G-BWWB Monowheel Classic.
E-mail: pjlevi@gmail.com
On 17 March 2010 05:30, Martin Tuck <MJKTuck@cs.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm still considering a panel refurb - out with the pneumatic system and in
> with an EFIS - I really like the Dynon Skyview.
>
> Anyone installed autopilot servos? I think I've seen some roll servos
> installed under the seat but I've not seen pitch servo installation.
>
> Does anyone have any drawings/photos?
>
> Regards,
> Martin Tuck
> N152MT
> Wichita, Kansas
>
>
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Subject: | Autopilot Servo Location |
>Anyone installed autopilot servos? I think I've seen some roll servos
>installed under the seat but I've not seen pitch servo installation.
Are you a Europa Club Member? Ian Rickard has been putting the final
touches to a standard Altitude Hold Mod. As you suggested, the pitch servo
is mounted under the seat. I have one similarly mounted under the left hand
seat, driven by my Trio Alt Hold.
Regards,
MP
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Subject: | Autopilot Servo Location |
Hi Martin
Ian Richard, the Mods rep on the Europa Club has done full drawings of both
roll and pitch servo installations and has been trying to get them issued as
standard factory mods. I am sure if you rejoined the Europa Club he would
be delighted to send you some drawings :-)
Regards
Brian Davies
The Europa Club membership sec.
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Martin Tuck
Sent: 17 March 2010 03:30
Subject: Europa-List: Autopilot Servo Location
Hi Folks,
I'm still considering a panel refurb - out with the pneumatic system and in
with an EFIS - I really like the Dynon Skyview.
Anyone installed autopilot servos? I think I've seen some roll servos
installed under the seat but I've not seen pitch servo installation.
Does anyone have any drawings/photos?
Regards,
Martin Tuck
N152MT
Wichita, Kansas
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Subject: | Autopilot Servo Location |
Martin
Have a look at Mod 75 (roll Autopilot) and Mod 76 (Altitude hold). These
are now up on the Europa Web site.
At the moment they do not cover the Dynon but the servos are about the same
size. As I wrote them, if you have any further questions let me know.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 280 hours
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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Subject: | Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? |
I have fitted 1/4=22 nylon pipe as return from motor to the main tank and as
water drains.
For general interest, would users please just flick this message back to me
=3F
JR Bob Gowing, UK Kit 327 in Oz
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Subject: | Europa UK parts supply |
I am interested if anyone who recently purchased parts, specifically a FWF kit
from Europa UK, has had any problems? Please reply off list.
Reg
Tony Renshaw
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Subject: | Re: Ivan's email |
On 03/03/2009 10:26 AM, Brian Davies wrote:
> His e mail address is available in the members only area of the Europa Club
> website. Sorry I cant broadcast it- UK Data Protection Laws!
>
> If you cant find it, e mail me offline.
Sorry to reply on an old topic, but I'm looking for Ivan Shaw's email
address as well. Can anyone mail it to me?
Best regards,
Frans Veldman
Oh, and BTW, I changed my email address, found this one more
appropriate. ;-)
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Subject: | Re: Autopilot Servo Location |
Jerry,
>From the Europa matronics web site.
----- Original Message -----
From: Philip Levi
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Autopilot Servo Location
Martin
One of the best altitude hold (dual axis) autopilots is the Trio Pilot
Pro. Excellent full details are on the Trio web site.
I was in correspondence with Paul Mitchell, the UK agent for Trio last
December and he was in touch with Andy Draper of the UK Light Aircraft
Association which were in the process of giving it approval for the
Europa. The relevant correspondence copied to me was:
----- Original Message -----
From: Andy Draper
To: Paul Mitchell
Sent: Wednesday, December 02, 2009 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: PP into a Europa
Hi Paul,
Europa are on the verge of launching Mod 76 which covers the altitude
hold aspect (awaiting flight test results) and the wing leveller part is
covered by the recently introduced Mod 75. Mod 75 effectively replaces
SM10507 which has been around for a while now. They've opted for
in-house mods to cover the rest of the world.
Mods 75 and 76 will be treated as Facory Options now, but both will
require inspection checks and flight test autorised by LAA Engineering
issued PFRC (as laid down in the mod leaflets).
Andy
From: Paul Mitchell [mailto:pm@tecnam.co.uk]
Sent: 02 December 2009 10:59
To: Andy Draper
Subject: PP into a Europa
Andy,
What is the currant position in fitting a PP into a Europa.Is it a
standard mod yet.
Any info gratefully received.
Paul
Note the reference to in-house mods for the rest of the world.
You will find it is a very neat and light weight unit at modest cost
compared to the competition. However, I do not speak from experience.
I plan to purchase it probably later this year after it has been
approved by the LAA.
Philip Levi
G-BWWB Monowheel Classic.
E-mail: pjlevi@gmail.com
On 17 March 2010 05:30, Martin Tuck <MJKTuck@cs.com> wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm still considering a panel refurb - out with the pneumatic system
and in with an EFIS - I really like the Dynon Skyview.
Anyone installed autopilot servos? I think I've seen some roll
servos installed under the seat but I've not seen pitch servo
installation.
Does anyone have any drawings/photos?
Regards,
Martin Tuck
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Subject: | Re: Ivan's email |
Frans=0AIvan is away on a cruise and won't be back until mid April, current
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rom: Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com
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website. Sorry I cant broadcast it- UK Data Protection Laws! =0A> =0A> If
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to me?=0A=0ABest regards,=0AFrans Veldman=0A=0AOh, and BTW, I changed my em
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Hoi Frans,
Ik begrijp dat je er met Andy niet uitkomt? :)
Aan Ivan's email-adres kan ik je niet helpen, helaas...
Marcel
PS First flight niet de komende week doen he, we zitten dan in
Curacao... ;-)
-----Original Message-----
From: Frans Veldman [mailto:frans@privatepilots.nl]
Sent: woensdag 17 maart 2010 11:44
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ivan's email
<frans@privatepilots.nl>
On 03/03/2009 10:26 AM, Brian Davies wrote:
> His e mail address is available in the members only area of the Europa
Club
> website. Sorry I cant broadcast it- UK Data Protection Laws!
>
> If you cant find it, e mail me offline.
Sorry to reply on an old topic, but I'm looking for Ivan Shaw's email
address as well. Can anyone mail it to me?
Best regards,
Frans Veldman
Oh, and BTW, I changed my email address, found this one more
appropriate. ;-)
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Subject: | Re: Europa UK parts supply |
Tony
I ordered throttle cables 2 months still waiting
Kevin
On 17 Mar 2010, at 10:42, Tony Renshaw
<tonyrenshaw268@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
>
> I am interested if anyone who recently purchased parts, specifically
> a FWF kit from Europa UK, has had any problems? Please reply off list.
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Door hinges to fuselage |
Thanks
So shoot bolts first and then hinges?
Will
rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote:
> Hi Will
> "Is this normal and if so where in the manual was the instruction to
> do this?"
> I think a lot of kits need spacers. It isn't in the manual for XS. You
> can have a look at my door build, I used some mixing sticks as a
> measuring gauge, then JB Welded in some G-10 spacers. One other thing
> not in mauual that worked out great for me is first thing making holes
> in fuse for shoot bolts, this way you can get precise registration
> during fitting (Thx. to Bud for that one).
> http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=29082
> Ron Parigoris
> *
>
>
> *
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Hi! Frans.
Ivan Shaw is away cruising into early April I'm pretty sure he surfs the
Europa Net . But I'll "patch" your message on to him anyway.
BTW do we all change your e-mail address?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frans Veldman
Sent: 17 March 2010 10:44
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Ivan's email
On 03/03/2009 10:26 AM, Brian Davies wrote:
> His e mail address is available in the members only area of the Europa
Club
> website. Sorry I cant broadcast it- UK Data Protection Laws!
>
> If you cant find it, e mail me offline.
Sorry to reply on an old topic, but I'm looking for Ivan Shaw's email
address as well. Can anyone mail it to me?
Best regards,
Frans Veldman
Oh, and BTW, I changed my email address, found this one more
appropriate. ;-)
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Subject: | Re: Door hinges to fuselage |
thanks jeff
JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
> Will,
> It's been a while but as I remember I used an aluminum spacer between
> the bottom hinge and the fuselage. So it would set right even with the
> fuselage I taped the spaces to the bottom hinge around the edges only.
> The applied a small amount of redux mixed with a bit of flox to the
> area on the fuselage where the spacer would rest. Make sure you have
> release tape anywhere the goo might touch. The idea was to use the
> mixture as a way see that the door & hinges would be flush when
> closed. You would want to trial fit everything with the spacer taped
> to the hinge first. If the door is proud of the fuselage top then
> remove some of the spacer with a grinder then re fit. If your door is
> low when fitted then you can add some more redux flox mixture. I
> remember having to sand just a small amount of the door top to come
> out exactly to the fuselage top but at least you know the hinges fit
> perfectly even this way.
> Hope this helps,
>
> Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush 220 hours and enjoying every flight I can
> get between rainy cold days. Would someone tell Al to get the global
> warming turned back on?
>
> *
>
> *
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Subject: | fuel fires vs. oil fires? |
""This combination of hardware provides for physical
security of the firewall penetration and a good deal
of protection for the grommet against fuel-fed fire.
The final touch is addition of the fire-putty fillet
around the wire and to cover about half the surface
area of the grommet on the engine side. This
adds relative gas-tightness for CO and protection
of the exposed insulation/grommet from fire.""
Bob ,
I would be delighted to read your appreciation
of the relative danger of fuel-fed vs. oil-fed engine
fires.
While I understand the danger of inflamed fuel,
I anticipate cutting off the fuel delivery. I know it cuts
the engine but perhaps a forced landing is better than
crispy critters.
Oil on the other hand is difficult to stop, unless
you stop the engine, which is slow and leads to the
same fate basically. It also may be modified by later
engine re-start. What have I missed?
What say you?
Ferg
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Subject: | Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? |
Hi Bob,
Did you check the compatibility of the nylon formulation with gasoline
and or alcohols?
Other than that, the nylon requires compression fittings which are not what
was supplied with the kit.
Ira
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290619#290619
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Subject: | Re: Ivan's email |
On 03/17/2010 02:16 PM, Robert C Harrison wrote:
> Ivan Shaw is away cruising into early April I'm pretty sure he surfs the
> Europa Net . But I'll "patch" your message on to him anyway.
I have sent him an email already, thanks!
> BTW do we all change your e-mail address?
Well, I'll listen in on both email addresses, but I intent to use the
new privatepilots address for flying related conversations, and use the
other one for my Dutch business. ;-) I don't really care which one you
use, but the privatepilots address may be easier to remember than the
Dutch address which most likely has no comprehensible meaning for you.
Frans
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Subject: | Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? |
----- Original Message -----
From: JR Gowing
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:07 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become?
I have fitted 1/4" nylon pipe as return from motor to the main tank
and as water drains.
For general interest, would users please just flick this message back
to me?
JR Bob Gowing, UK Kit 327 in Oz
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Subject: | Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? |
Is there not a risk of static-induced pinholes with fuel in nylon? Or is
that Teflon? Or.....
Cheers,
Pete
A239
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM, PETER HARROD <
peterandbettyharrod@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* JR Gowing <jrgowing@bigpond.net.au>
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:07 PM
> *Subject:* Europa-List: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become?
>
> I have fitted 1/4" nylon pipe as return from motor to the main tank and as
> water drains.
>
> For general interest, would users please just flick this message back to
> me?
>
> JR Bob Gowing, UK Kit 327 in Oz
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Door hinges to fuselage |
Hi Will
"So shoot bolts first and then hinges?"
I
didn't install shoot bolt guides, just made holes in fuse so shoot bolts
can lock door in place. Yes shoot bolt holes before hinges allows easy
registritration whenfitting of door the gazillion times you need to
take on and off. BTW using tape as a pattern allows you to trim door very
close first shot. Pics on link I sent you.
Ron Parigoris
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Subject: | Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? |
Hi! Bob
Did you check it's fire resistance time ? I can see melting blobs of nylon
.............in the engine compartment.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rampil
Sent: 17 March 2010 14:26
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become?
Hi Bob,
Did you check the compatibility of the nylon formulation with gasoline
and or alcohols?
Other than that, the nylon requires compression fittings which are not what
was supplied with the kit.
Ira
--------
Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: Door hinges to fuselage |
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Subject: | Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? |
Triboelectric pinholes (static discharges) happen in thin teflon,
which is why the aerospace grade of Aeroquip 666 (the premiere
fuel hose IMHO) has an embedded carbon strip through the length
of the teflon.
I have not heard of triboelectric problems with nylon, doesn't mean
it doesn't exist.
Ira
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Subject: | Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? |
Ira
Did not do any checking - just accepted a friend builder's suggestion.
Very easy to fit and very easy to take out again. Fittings have a lock
ring - push pipe in and it grabs, push on the ring and you can withdraw it.
JR
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Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 1:26 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become?
>
> Hi Bob,
>
> Did you check the compatibility of the nylon formulation with gasoline
> and or alcohols?
>
> Other than that, the nylon requires compression fittings which are not
> what
> was supplied with the kit.
>
> Ira
>
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Subject: | Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? |
Ira...How thin is "thin teflon"?
Is automotive EFI R9 hose lined w/ "thin" teflon, or something thicker
to deal w/ the issue you describe?
If the R9 hose w/ the blue teflon liner IS subject to triboelectric
pinholes, why doesn't it concern the auto manufacturers?
Fred
On Mar 17, 2010, at 1:30 PM, rampil wrote:
>
> Triboelectric pinholes (static discharges) happen in thin teflon,
> which is why the aerospace grade of Aeroquip 666 (the premiere
> fuel hose IMHO) has an embedded carbon strip through the length
> of the teflon.
>
> I have not heard of triboelectric problems with nylon, doesn't mean
> it doesn't exist.
>
> Ira
>
> --------
> Ira N224XS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=290664#290664
>
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Subject: | Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? |
Hi Fred
"How thin is "thin teflon"?Is automotive
EFI R9 hose lined w/ "thin" teflon, or something thicker to deal
w/ the issue you describe? If the R9 hose w/ the blue teflon liner IS
subject to triboelectric pinholes, why doesn't it concern the auto
manufacturers?"
Here is a bit more info:
http://www.sacskyranch.com/statichose.htm
Ron Parigoris
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Subject: | Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? |
quote from http://www.sacskyranch.com/statichose.htm :
> Static charge generation occurs as liquids flow through hoses and is
> dependent upon the potential of the hose surface to accept or donate
> electrons, the speed at which the liquid is moving and the
> conductivity of the hose liner. Electrostatic discharge in the form
> of an electric spark occurs from the hose inner tube to the steel
> braid thereby creating a pin hole leak.
>
That would seem to indicate that the potential for triboelectric
pinholes is a consequence of the steel braid surface of the hose.
I have used automotive R9 EFI hose (w/ the blue teflon liner)...(at
$6/7 dollars/foot, it's not exactly "cheap")...I have planned on using
steel braid on only those hoses which are forward of the firewall...if
I carry out that plan, it sounds like all will be well if I use the
Mil Spec. MIL-H-25579E hose forward of the firewall or where ever
steel braid is used.
I would be grateful for any comments anyone?
Fred
A194
On Mar 17, 2010, at 4:36 PM, rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us wrote:
> Hi Fred
> "How thin is "thin teflon"? Is automotive EFI R9 hose lined w/
> "thin" teflon, or something thicker to deal w/ the issue you
> describe? If the R9 hose w/ the blue teflon liner IS subject to
> triboelectric pinholes, why doesn't it concern the auto
> manufacturers?"
> Here is a bit more info:
> http://www.sacskyranch.com/statichose.htm
> Ron Parigoris
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Europa Servos |
Thanks for all the replies - most helpful.
I just need to know the prices for the Mods now. I see I would need a
new pitch pivot tube. Couldn't just find a local welder to put on the
plates?
Martin Tuck
N152MT
Wichita, Kansas
Richard Wheelwright wrote:
> Hi,
> Have a look at the Europa web site. Under Mods. The Auto Pilot is on
> there, with parts and instructions.
>
>
> ============================================
>
> Thank You
> Richard Wheelwright
>
> ============================================
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? |
JR Gowing wrote:
> I have fitted 1/4" nylon pipe as return from motor to the main tank
> and as water drains.
>
> For general interest, would users please just flick this message back
> to me?
>
> JR Bob Gowing, UK Kit 327 in Oz
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Subject: | Re: Europa Servos |
And then, if you did that years ago, you have to put it in there!
That is too much for me.......
JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz
----- Original Message -----
From: "Martin Tuck" <MJKTuck@cs.com>
Forum" <europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 12:44 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa Servos
>
> Thanks for all the replies - most helpful.
>
> I just need to know the prices for the Mods now. I see I would need a
> new pitch pivot tube. Couldn't just find a local welder to put on the
> plates?
>
> Martin Tuck
> N152MT
> Wichita, Kansas
>
> Richard Wheelwright wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Have a look at the Europa web site. Under Mods. The Auto Pilot is on
>> there, with parts and instructions.
>>
>>
>> ============================================
>>
>> Thank You
>> Richard Wheelwright
>>
>> ============================================
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it become? |
Pete
I just accepted a fellow builder's suggestion that it was becoming
popular. Easy to use - etc
JR
----- Original Message -----
From: Peter Zutrauen
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:08 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it
become?
Is there not a risk of static-induced pinholes with fuel in nylon? Or
is that Teflon? Or.....
Cheers,
Pete
A239
On Wed, Mar 17, 2010 at 11:52 AM, PETER HARROD
<peterandbettyharrod@btopenworld.com> wrote:
----- Original Message -----
From: JR Gowing
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 11:07 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Nylon Fuel Piping - how popular has it
become?
I have fitted 1/4" nylon pipe as return from motor to the main
tank and as water drains.
For general interest, would users please just flick this message
back to me?
JR Bob Gowing, UK Kit 327 in Oz
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