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1. 12:01 AM - Re: Re:Europa parts supply - 'Handling fee' warning. (JR Gowing)
2. 02:21 AM - Re: Europa UK parts supply (Stephan Cassel)
3. 04:26 AM - Re: Re:Europa parts supply - 'Handling fee' warning. (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
4. 07:45 AM - Re: Re:Europa parts supply - 'Handling fee' warning. (Robert Borger)
5. 08:25 AM - Rudden push rod (Frans Veldman)
6. 09:34 AM - Re: Rudder push rod (Robert Borger)
7. 11:34 AM - Re: wrape drive propeller for sale (david_charlesworth@talk21.com)
8. 01:17 PM - Re: Rudden push rod (Pete Lawless)
9. 03:44 PM - Europa parts supply - 'Handling fee' warning (David Stanbridge)
10. 11:29 PM - Re : wrape drive propeller for sale (NEEL Jean Philippe)
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| Subject: | Re:Europa parts supply - 'Handling fee' warning. |
I support Fred Klein's view and hope they continue to prosper!
JR (Bob) Gowing in Oz
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 2:37 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re:Europa parts supply - 'Handling fee' warning.
>
> Given the state of the global economy, the plethora of new designs,
> and the extreme competitiveness in the LSA and kitplane markets, I
> want to support the new Europa company in every way I can. I am very
> grateful that Dave Stanbridge, Roger, and John Wheeler were able to
> come to terms in a manner which allowed the company to continue
> operations and hopefully prosper in the future. The initiatives taken
> are just now beginning to bear fruit, and I certainly support
> reasonable good business practices. I recognise that sourcing parts
> and maintaining inventories is a constant challenge.
>
> I'm reminded of that old saw about how to make a small fortune in
> general aviation...the answer of course being that you start with a
> large fortune...challenging indeed!
>
> I save my wrath against the corporate world to slather on Wall
> Streeters, Ponzi Schemers, and the Gnomes of Zurich.
>
> Fred
> A194
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa UK parts supply |
Barry and all,I aggree!Last month I ordered some spare parts to my
mono.Two days later parts were delivered, by DHL, at my office in
Norway.Fiona, at Europa, is a very serviced minded
person.RegardsStephanLN-STE MONO 210+ hours
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| Subject: | Re:Europa parts supply - 'Handling fee' warning. |
I too think we need to help Europa factory succeed. Those of you who rememb
er my tail wheel/ rudder drive mod which reverts to push rod drive for the
rudder will be pleased to note that the factory are now supplying the mod k
it. I strongly recommend this mod as it reduces the loads on the rudder hin
ges and flanges.=0Aregards =0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________
________=0AFrom: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matr
onics.com=0ASent: Saturday, 20 March, 2010 3:37:42=0ASubject: Europa-List:
Re:Europa parts supply - 'Handling fee' warning.=0A=0A--> Europa-List messa
ge posted by: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>=0A=0AGiven the state of t
he global economy, the plethora of new designs, and the extreme competitive
ness in the LSA and kitplane markets, I want to support the new Europa comp
any in every way I can. I am very grateful that Dave Stanbridge, Roger, and
John Wheeler were able to come to terms in a manner which allowed the comp
any to continue operations and hopefully prosper in the future. The initiat
ives taken are just now beginning to bear fruit, and I certainly support re
asonable good business practices. I recognise that sourcing parts and maint
aining inventories is a constant challenge.=0A=0AI'm reminded of that old
saw about how to make a small fortune in general aviation...the answer of c
ourse being that you start with a large fortune...challenging indeed!=0A=0A
I save my wrath against the corporate world to slather on Wall Streeters, P
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| Subject: | Re:Europa parts supply - 'Handling fee' warning. |
Europaphiles,
I'll have to add my tuppence in support of Europa. Many businesses have
some sort of restocking fee associated with the return of expensive and
specialized products. I can sympathize with FlyingPhil. I lost over
=A310K in promised goods back when Europa went bust. It all had to be
purchased again from the vendors, most of whom also lost big. To say I
was p-o'd would be an understatement. The treatment received by the
receiver company was crap to say the least. That's in the past now.
The Stanbridge group has worked very hard to restore Europa and make a
going concern out of it. New products, new development and, considering
the business climate these days, good support have been provided. Cut
them some slack, as we say over here, and continue to support them so
they may continue to support us.
As for Graham's tail drive mod, I have it. It installs easily and it
certainly does reduce the loads on the both the rudder hinges and the
tailwheel. I would recommend it. Just keep the cables to the tailwheel
tight!
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Mar 20, 2010, at 6:25, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
> I too think we need to help Europa factory succeed. Those of you who
remember my tail wheel/ rudder drive mod which reverts to push rod drive
for the rudder will be pleased to note that the factory are now
supplying the mod kit. I strongly recommend this mod as it reduces the
loads on the rudder hinges and flanges.
> regards
> Graham
>
> From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Saturday, 20 March, 2010 3:37:42
> Subject: Europa-List: Re:Europa parts supply - 'Handling fee' warning.
>
>
> Given the state of the global economy, the plethora of new designs,
and the extreme competitiveness in the LSA and kitplane markets, I want
to support the new Europa company in every way I can. I am very grateful
that Dave Stanbridge, Roger, and John Wheeler were able to come to terms
in a manner which allowed the company to continue operations and
hopefully prosper in the future. The initiatives taken are just now
beginning to bear fruit, and I certainly support reasonable good
business practices. I recognise that sourcing parts and maintaining
inventories is a constant challenge.
>
> I'm reminded of that old saw about how to make a small fortune in
general aviation...the answer of course being that you start with a
large fortune...challenging indeed!
>
> I save my wrath against the corporate world to slather on Wall
Streeters, Ponzi Schemers, and ...
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On 03/20/2010 12:25 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
> I too think we need to help Europa factory succeed. Those of you who
> remember my tail wheel/ rudder drive mod which reverts to push rod drive
> for the rudder will be pleased to note that the factory are now
> supplying the mod kit. I strongly recommend this mod as it reduces the
> loads on the rudder hinges and flanges.
I remember having seen a Europa classic tri gear with a rudder push rod
rather than the cable setup. I wondered whether this was a classic
feature, and why it was abandoned, because my kit came with the (ugly)
cable setup.
Was this part of your tailwheel mod?
Although my Europa is finished, I would still like to see the details
(and maybe it is possible to convert). That starboard external cable and
horn don't really belong on such a sleek aircraft.
Frans
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| Subject: | Re: Rudder push rod |
Frans,
It's not impossible to do the Singleton Rudder Push Rod Mod in your completed aircraft,
but it sure would be uncomfortable doing those parts of the installation
on the bulkhead way back in the tail cone.
You can go to my build gallery (URL below), album Year #3 Q1 2004, Page 2 to see
what all is involved in the Mod.
Check six,
Bob Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
Aircraft Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Mar 20, 2010, at 10:24, Frans Veldman wrote:
>
> On 03/20/2010 12:25 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
>> I too think we need to help Europa factory succeed. Those of you who
>> remember my tail wheel/ rudder drive mod which reverts to push rod drive
>> for the rudder will be pleased to note that the factory are now
>> supplying the mod kit. I strongly recommend this mod as it reduces the
>> loads on the rudder hinges and flanges.
>
> I remember having seen a Europa classic tri gear with a rudder push rod
> rather than the cable setup. I wondered whether this was a classic
> feature, and why it was abandoned, because my kit came with the (ugly)
> cable setup.
> Was this part of your tailwheel mod?
> Although my Europa is finished, I would still like to see the details
> (and maybe it is possible to convert). That starboard external cable and
> horn don't really belong on such a sleek aircraft.
>
> Frans
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: wrape drive propeller for sale |
Hi,
-
How much are you looking for?
--- On Fri, 19/3/10, NEEL Jean Philippe <jeanphilippeneel@yahoo.fr> wrote:
From: NEEL Jean Philippe <jeanphilippeneel@yahoo.fr>
Subject: Europa-List: wrape drive propeller for sale
Hi all,
I have a three blade ground ajustable wrap drive propeller for sale. It fle
w 410 h on my Europa 80 hp-before I-buy an in flight ajustable prop.
If interested: jeanphilippeneel@yahoo.fr
-
JP Neel
Europa F-PSLH
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=0A=0A=0A
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Hi Frans
The rudder pushrod was part of the early kits with the original tailwheel,
which had a fitting for the tailwheel bolted on the front face of the rear
bulkhead.
If you really fancy it I should think you may find someone with an old
tailwheel to sell, though it is now a long time since they were superseded.
It would be a real pig of a job as you would be working in the back of the
fuselage and would need access to the rear face of the rear bulkhead. Also
the fitting is quite heavy.
Regards
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frans Veldman
Sent: 20 March 2010 15:24
Subject: Europa-List: Rudden push rod
On 03/20/2010 12:25 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
> I too think we need to help Europa factory succeed. Those of you who
> remember my tail wheel/ rudder drive mod which reverts to push rod drive
> for the rudder will be pleased to note that the factory are now
> supplying the mod kit. I strongly recommend this mod as it reduces the
> loads on the rudder hinges and flanges.
I remember having seen a Europa classic tri gear with a rudder push rod
rather than the cable setup. I wondered whether this was a classic
feature, and why it was abandoned, because my kit came with the (ugly)
cable setup.
Was this part of your tailwheel mod?
Although my Europa is finished, I would still like to see the details
(and maybe it is possible to convert). That starboard external cable and
horn don't really belong on such a sleek aircraft.
Frans
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| Subject: | Europa parts supply - 'Handling fee' warning |
To all,
I would just like to take this opportunity to thank you for the support
for Europa. Just to keep you abreast of some of the changes:
1. By the end of this financial year (April 5th) we will be operating a
new stock control / parts system. As well as enabling us to auto order
stock (so that we never run low) and deliver faster, on a practical level
it will for instance enable us to provide photos of all of the items to
ensure that going forward we can provide the parts right first time.
2. The production facilities at Kirkbymoorside are close to completion in
terms of a revamp that will enable us to obtain EASA Production
Organisation Approval (POA) so that we can start manufacturing certified
aircraft. As they stand now you can almost eat your dinner off the floor
of both the machine and composite manufacturing shop.
3. The POA will be complemented by an EASA Design Organisation Approval so
that we can start "officially" designing certified aircraft. Obviously
this will also lead to better all round technical support for the Europa
aircraft.
Along the way there are bound to be some frustrations and we are not here
to bite the hand off anyone. We just want to ensure that Europa is a going
concern for many years to come and to offer support and further
enhancements for the existing and the future Europa fleet.
Thank you,
Dave Stanbridge
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| Subject: | wrape drive propeller for sale |
Bonjour=0AThe price is 380=82=AC plus shipping cost=0ABonne journ=C3=A9e
=0AJP=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0ADe : "david_charleswort
h@talk21.com" <david_charlesworth@talk21.com>=0A=C3 : europa-list@matron
ics.com=0AEnvoy=C3=A9 le : Sam 20 mars 2010, 19 h 11 min 50 s=0AObjet=C2-
: Re: Europa-List: wrape drive propeller for sale=0A=0A=0AHi,=0A=0AHow much
are you looking for?=0A=0A--- On Fri, 19/3/10, NEEL Jean Philippe <jeanphi
lippeneel@yahoo.fr> wrote:=0A=0A=0A>From: NEEL Jean Philippe <jeanphilippen
eel@yahoo.fr>=0A>Subject: Europa-List: wrape drive propeller for sale=0A>To
: europa-list@matronics.com=0A>Date: Friday, 19 March, 2010, 16:56=0A>=0A>
=0A>Hi all,=0A>I have a three blade ground ajustable wrap drive propeller f
or sale. It flew 410 h on my Europa 80 hp=C2-before I=C2-buy an in flig
ht ajustable prop.=0A>If interested: jeanphilippeneel@yahoo.fr=0A>=0A>JP Ne
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