---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/02/10: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:03 AM - (Fergus Kyle) 2. 08:03 AM - outrigger wheels (Erich Trombley) 3. 08:03 AM - Outrigger wheels (Fergus Kyle) 4. 08:46 AM - Re: outrigger wheels (Fred Klein) 5. 09:14 AM - Re: (Paul McAllister) 6. 04:19 PM - Re: outrigger wheels (Fred Klein) 7. 06:51 PM - Re: Redux/Epibond 420 purchase anyone? (Bud Yerly) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:04 AM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: Hello - Pursuant to the following quote: " Guys...I've been looking into substitutes for the kit-provided outrigger wheel, and thought I'd found the answer with a Colson Performa wheel which comes w/ sealed ball bearings. After Kingsley acquainted me w/ the distinction between "sealed ball bearings" and "maintenance-free precision ball bearings" I found the following in the McMaster catalogue (I hope the text and graphics gets thru the matronics server). This "Easy-Roll Rubber-Tread Wheel" (McMaster part # 2439T42) which comes with "maintenance-free precision ball bearings" has a ridiculous low price of $7.81. I've queried McMaster, and they confirm that yes, it does come w/ these bearings. I'm wondering if anyone has tried them and can comment on their performance." I find the wheel of note to be on page 1348 and #2439T42 to be $8.20 - not niggling, just making sure...... I will have to ask someone to order for me as am obviously another one of those 11SEP Canadians attempting a outrigger coup. Ferg PS: all thanks for the info! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:27 AM PST US From: "Erich Trombley" Subject: Europa-List: outrigger wheels I am one of those mono guys that has been using the scooter wheel since day one on my Eruopa. Not realizing just how good these little wheel ar e I purchased several sets from the local sporting goods store thinking I was going be changing them out frequently. However, after seven years of flying I am still only on my second pair. These wheels are the 100m m diameter with abec 5 bearings. I don't know what the hardness of thes e are however, they seem to be soft. I made my own mouting hardware, ge tting rid of the Europa bracket. The wheels fit perfectly within the wi dth of the outrigger leg. The scooter wheels are significantly lighter, very durable, long lasting, and quite. The lighter weight may even hel p keep the outriggers from sagging. Regards, Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ 2547% Penny Stock Picks? Our last pick exploded 2547% - Join our free newsletter today! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/4bb6070a21bce73806st05vuc ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:03:29 AM PST US From: "Fergus Kyle" Subject: Europa-List: Outrigger wheels PPS: I forgot yo mention page 1304 of the catalogue gives some explanation for picking the proper wheels.... Ferg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:46:33 AM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: outrigger wheels Hi Ferg...thanks for the price update on those wheels!!...the $7.81 price was good back in Sept. '09. BTW, I don't know of anyone who has inspected or mounted that particular wheel. Although it's still reasonably priced, as I learned more about the world of precision bearings, there are multiple grades (ABEC ratings). If I recall correctly, these "Easy-Roll" wheels, although they do have "maintenance-free precision bearings", they have the lowest possible rating. I wouldn't imagine that parts ordered from www.skates.com would raise any eyebrows with the technology-transfer-police...see my email of 31 Mar 10. The wheels I ordered came w/ ABEC 5 bearings...for a few more bucks I also ordered some ABEC 9 bearings, but frankly, the wheels w/ the #5 bearings are wonderful silent spinners and I see Eric Trombley has had good experience with them. Cheers, Fred ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:58 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: From: Paul McAllister On Fri, Apr 2, 2010 at 10:00 AM, Fergus Kyle wrote: > I find the wheel of note to be on page 1348 and #2439T42 to be > $8.20 ' not niggling, just making sure...... I will have to ask some one > to order for me as am obviously another one of those 11SEP Canadians > attempting a outrigger coup. > > Ferg > > Ferg, my god man, don't you realize that shopping trolly's are weapon of mass destruction ? Haven't you seen how much damage one of those things ca n do in the wrong hands ? Imagine what could happen if a shopping trolly got in the hands of the Taliban ? Those guys could take out a Humvee in the twinkling of an eye. Seriously though, I have been using Colston casters for years, and they las t a long time. Paul ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:19:15 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: outrigger wheels Hi Ferg...thanks for the price update on those wheels!!...the $7.81 price was good back in Sept. '09. BTW, I don't know of anyone who has inspected or mounted that particular wheel. Although it's still reasonably priced, as I learned more about the world of precision bearings, there are multiple grades (ABEC ratings). If I recall correctly, these "Easy-Roll" wheels, although they do have "maintenance-free precision bearings", they have the lowest possible rating. I wouldn't imagine that parts ordered from www.skates.com would raise any eyebrows with the technology-transfer-police...see my email of 31 Mar 10. The wheels I ordered came w/ ABEC 5 bearings...for a few more bucks I also ordered some ABEC 9 bearings, but frankly, the wheels w/ the #5 bearings are wonderful silent spinners and I see Eric Trombley has had good experience with them. Cheers, Fred ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:51:26 PM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Redux/Epibond 420 purchase anyone? Pete, I've sold out this batch and it hasn't arrived yet. I don't think I could get a kit from Huntsman and make it in two weeks. Sorry, I'll see what I can do. Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: Peter Zutrauen To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 10:21 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Redux/Epibond 420 purchase anyone? Hi Bud, Are you still looking for additional takers? If so, I may be interested in 1 quart if it could be shipped to the UPS store in Odgenburg NY within 2 weeks (as I have something else to pick up there). Many thanks, Pete On Fri, Mar 12, 2010 at 3:51 PM, Bud Yerly > wrote: US Europaphiles, Anyone in need of Redux? Two other builders and I each need a kit. Anyone else want to get in on it. Saves about $35 on hazardous fees per kit. A case ships for the same price as a quart. Last purchase price was about $270 with shipping/hazardous (think of the children)... Contact: Bud Yerly at budyerly@msn.com arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List tp://forums.matronics.com _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution -- "A man is not old until his regrets take the place of his dreams. 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