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1. 02:18 AM - Matco Master Cylinders "take up" (Tony Renshaw)
2. 02:18 AM - Re: Re: Electronic Mind Needed (Greg Fuchs)
3. 02:57 AM - Re: Matco Master Cylinders "take up" (Frans Veldman)
4. 03:18 PM - Re: Rudden push rod (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
5. 04:20 PM - SnF Engineering Meeting (rampil)
6. 07:21 PM - Effects of Flaps and Ailerons on Pitch Trim (Troy Maynor)
7. 08:11 PM - Re: Effects of Flaps and Ailerons on Pitch Trim (Kingsley Hurst)
8. 08:18 PM - Sun'n'Fun ()
9. 08:47 PM - Re: SnF Engineering Meeting (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
10. 09:47 PM - Re: SnF Engineering Meeting (Fred Klein)
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Subject: | Matco Master Cylinders "take up" |
Gidday,
I am attempting to set up my new finger brakes, and am wondering whether the Matco
finger brakes have an inbuilt "sloppiness" prior to the uptake of the braking?
With the standard lever lengths of what I remember is 7", I'm keen to know
where the levers penetrate the top of the tunnel, if anyone has a dimension,
and what distance aft they come back before braking occurs?
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Aussie
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Subject: | Re: Electronic Mind Needed |
Fred,
Very nice. I seem to remember a LOT of helpful emails coming from a certain
person with the same name as yours!
It is great to have a wealth of skilled people from all walks of life and
capabilities as close away as the forum, isn't it?
I am in awe myself.
Regards,
Greg
...I can't help but be in awe of the technical expertise and understanding
written as I read this thread...
Fred
A194
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Subject: | Re: Matco Master Cylinders "take up" |
On 04/10/2010 11:19 AM, Tony Renshaw wrote:
> Gidday, I am attempting to set up my new finger brakes, and am
> wondering whether the Matco finger brakes have an inbuilt
> "sloppiness" prior to the uptake of the braking? With the standard
> lever lengths of what I remember is 7", I'm keen to know where the
> levers penetrate the top of the tunnel, if anyone has a dimension,
> and what distance aft they come back before braking occurs?
I managed to keep the same setup for the Matco's as with the Jamar
brakes. So, if you follow the build manual for the Jamar brakes, you
should be OK. My system came with a factory slotted plate and mounted on
the outlined position worked very well.
In the "dry" setup, the levers will be able to hit the end of the
slotted plate, but once the brakes are willed with fluid, the "throw" of
the levers decreases substantially.
I can take some measurements if you let me know what you need.
(Now I finished building pretty much, some excuse to fiddle with the
airplane is sometimes welcome. It is a quite strange experience hanging
around there with nothing to do, with all dozens of "ToDo-notes"
exhausted. First flight? Maybe next weekend, if test-pilot and weather
cooperate).
Frans
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Subject: | Re: Rudden push rod |
Frans=0AYes, my mod retained the original Classic push rod, I agree the kno
ck kneed look of the XS cables is ugly. It also overloads the hinges and fl
anges if pilots push on both pedals. (which they sometimes do)=0AFactory ha
ve now taken over my mod and can supply the parts. It is retrofittable but
you will need to fit access panels. Not too big a deal.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Frans Veldman <frans@priv
atepilots.nl>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Saturday, 20 March, 2
010 15:24:13=0ASubject: Europa-List: Rudden push rod=0A=0A--> Europa-List m
essage posted by: Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl>=0A=0AOn 03/20/2010
12:25 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:=0A> I too think we need to help Europa f
actory succeed. Those of you who=0A> remember my tail wheel/ rudder drive m
od which reverts to push rod drive=0A> for the rudder will be pleased to no
te that the factory are now=0A> supplying the mod kit. I strongly recommend
this mod as it reduces the=0A> loads on the rudder hinges and flanges.=0A
=0AI remember having seen a Europa classic tri gear with a rudder push rod
=0Arather than the cable setup. I wondered whether this was a classic=0Afea
ture, and why it was abandoned, because my kit came with the (ugly)=0Acable
setup.=0AWas this part of your tailwheel mod?=0AAlthough my Europa is fini
shed, I would still like to see the details=0A(and maybe it is possible to
convert). That starboard external cable and=0Ahorn don't really belong on s
=========================0A
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Subject: | SnF Engineering Meeting |
Is it too early to start planning the annual festivities?
I, myself, will be attending Wednesday to Saturday afternoon
Anyone else?
Ira
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Ira N224XS
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Subject: | Effects of Flaps and Ailerons on Pitch Trim |
Hi All,
Ok, you know what they say about dumb questions. Are my flaps reflexed
too far (up) if I have to dial in 2 marks of nose down trim for straight
and level flight or am I thinking backwards? I rechecked the weight and
balance as well as the stabilator and anti servo limits and they are all
good. I was thinking maybe just the indicator needed adjusting but the
tabs are aligned with the stabs. and the stabs. are aligned with the
fuselage molding, and the indicator is on zero. Not sure whats going on
for sure. It flies ok but if the tabs aren't aligned it can't be clean
and efficient. Any thoughts? I figure it's got to be ailerons or flaps.
Had to get back home today before I had time to investigate further.
Just need some reenforcing thoughts from you experts.
Troy Maynor
Europa Monowheel Classic
Flying
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Subject: | Re: Effects of Flaps and Ailerons on Pitch Trim |
Troy,
In every in-flight photo I have seen of a Europa in level flight, the
trim tabs have been noticably deflected upwards (nose down trim).
A few years ago I posted the question "Why is it so?" on this list but
apart from somebody remarking that I was observant, there were no
reasons given so I am still left wondering???
I think you will find yours is perfectly normal and like you, I hope
somebody can explain.
Cheers
Kingsley in Oz
do not archive
----- Original Message -----
From: Troy Maynor
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, April 11, 2010 12:18 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Effects of Flaps and Ailerons on Pitch Trim
Hi All,
Ok, you know what they say about dumb questions. Are my flaps reflexed
too far (up) if I have to dial in 2 marks of nose down trim for straight
and level flight or am I thinking backwards? I rechecked the weight and
balance as well as the stabilator and anti servo limits and they are all
good. I was thinking maybe just the indicator needed adjusting but the
tabs are aligned with the stabs. and the stabs. are aligned with the
fuselage molding, and the indicator is on zero. Not sure whats going on
for sure. It flies ok but if the tabs aren't aligned it can't be clean
and efficient. Any thoughts? I figure it's got to be ailerons or flaps.
Had to get back home today before I had time to investigate further.
Just need some reenforcing thoughts from you experts.
Troy Maynor
Europa Monowheel Classic
Flying
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Ira, I will be at stands 90-91 with Jeff and Mary Behrnes from tuesday so an engineering
meeting can be arranged. daily meet'n'greet at 11.00 as usual.
Steve Pitt
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Subject: | Re: SnF Engineering Meeting |
Lynne and I will be there Wed and Thu.=C2- --=C2- Wings, elevator, rudd
er, doors in the paint shop!=C2- Engine installation at about 80%, panel
done and tested!
Jim Puglise
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From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 7:19:06 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Europa-List: SnF Engineering Meeting
Is it too early to start planning the annual festivities?
I, myself, will be attending Wednesday to Saturday afternoon
Anyone else?
Ira
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Ira N224XS
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=293778#293778
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Subject: | Re: SnF Engineering Meeting |
> Is it too early to start planning the annual festivities?
Sorry to say that family obligations will prevent me from attending
this year...I can always use a boost in the realm of Engineering...do
enjoy the show!...I hope to make RR this year, if weather cooperates.
Cheers,
Fred
PS: In the 12 months since SnF 09, I bit the bullet and bought the RAM
Sube engine, laid up my cowls and mono wheel fairing from Alex
Bowman's molds, designed, fabricated, and installed an engine mounting
frame, twin hi pressure fuel pumps for the injection system, had some
custom radiators made and am in the midst of fabbing the cooling
ducting and a tuned exhaust system...lotsa little stuff as
well...discernable progress.
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