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     1. 12:54 AM - Navaid Servos.....no longer (Tony Renshaw)
     2. 01:35 AM - Re: Effects of Flaps and Ailerons on Pitch Trim (JonSmith)
     3. 03:32 AM - Engine Mount Strengthening Mod (Tony Renshaw)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Navaid Servos.....no longer | 
      
      
      Jerry from Trio advised me that Navaid Servos are no longer available, which is
      why they built there own.
      Reg
      Tony Renshaw
      Sydney Aussie
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Effects of Flaps and Ailerons on Pitch Trim | 
      
      
      Hi Jos,
      I am very sorry but I have to disagree with nearly everything in your recent posting!
      Your points are relevant to a "conventional" fixed tailplane with separate
      elevators and trim tab, but not to the Europa tail which is a masterpiece
      of design!
      
      The thing is - your comments about "needing trim tab deflection" apply to a conventional
      elevator - which is in effect a trailing control surface or tab itself.
      This conventional elevator will always need to be "held" against a restoring
      force from the airflow and the trim tab deflection provides this "holding
      force", or trim as we call it.
      
      The Europa tail principle is different however.  The job that the horizontal tail
      surface does is the same on ALL conventional fixed wing aircraft (Europa, C-150,
      Piper Cub, whatever) - it provides a small downforce to balance the nose
      down pitch effect generated by the wing.  It will always be a downforce needed
      from the tail because the C of G is always forward of the Point or Centre of
      the Lifting force generated by the wing.  It is only a small downforce needed
      from the tail because of the distance the tailplane is from the wing - you have
      a long spanner!!  As the Europa has a symmetrical section tailplane then this
      downforce has to be generated by a slightly negative angle of attack of the
      Relative Airflow to the tailplane.  (Look at the line drawings of the aircraft
      - the tailplane's incidence in the neutral position is slightly negative to
      the fuselage waterline/ reference line - the wing's incidence of course is 2.5
      deg positive).  The downforce can be varied by the pilot adjusting the angle
      of the tailplane with the stick (control) or by changes to the Relative Airflow
      by say a gust (the starting point of the aircraft's natural longitudinal stability).
      
      Now the clever bit regarding the Europa!  The tailplane is "AERODYNAMICALLY BALANCED"
      which means that the tailplane can provide this "lift" force (downforce)
      BUT REGARDLESS OF THE PRODUCTION OF THIS DOWNFORCE AND THE AMOUNT OF IT THE
      TAILPLANE(OR ELEVATOR CONTROL) WILL NOT BE DEFLECTED AWAY FROM IT'S CURRENT POSITION
      EVEN WHEN THE GENERATED DOWNFORCE CHANGES BY CHANGING RELATIVE AIRFLOW.
      
      THE TAILPLANE WILL NOT BE DEFLECTED BY THE RELATIVE AIRFLOW, EVEN IF THIS AIRFLOW
      CHANGES IN DIRECTION OR SPEED RELATIVE TO THE TAILPLANE.  This is due to this
      very clever aerodynamic balance.  Basically any "rotating" force on the tailplane
      created by the airflows's angle of attack will be the same behind the pivot
      (torque tube) as that created in front of it.  In other words the slight
      negative angle of attack causes the airflow to "push down" on the tailplane from
      above with an equal average force behind the torque tube as in front of it.
      This is true regardless of speed and the angle of the airflow and so the tailplane
      will never be deflected by just the airflow even if the airflow changes.
      This is very hard to visualise because of course the surface area of tailplane
      behind the torque tube is very much greater than in front of it - but THE
      SHAPE or cross section of the tailplane is also very different fore and aft of
      the torque tube and due to the beautiful design this AERODYNAMIC BALANCE IS THERE!!
      
      Now then - TRIM TABS!!  The job of the tabs on the Europa is to hold the tailplane
      in the position that the pilot wants it to stay in!  THE TAILPLANE WILL STAY
      IN IT'S CURRENT POSITION ONLY WHEN THE TRIM TABS ARE FLUSH WITH THE TAILPLANE
      SURFACE.  IF THE TABS ARE NOT FLUSH THEN THEY WILL BE CREATING A ROTATING FORCE
      ON THE TAILPLANE THAT WILL WANT TO MOVE IT FROM IT'S CURRENT POSITION TO
      ACHIEVE THE TABS-FLUSH STATE AGAIN.  If the tailplane moves out of the chosen
      trimmed position - maybe the pilot inadvertantly moves the stick - then because
      of the clever linkage design, the tabs move from their flush position in the
      same direction. (Tailplane trailing edge moves up - tabs move up).  The tabs
      thus provide an aerodynamic "restoring force" to put the tailplane back where
      it was - in other words it's original trimmed position with the tabs flush again!
      The trim switch/ control on the Europa merely resets or adjusts the tailplane
      position where the tabs are flush with the surface.  The required tailplane
      position simply depends on how much downforce you want it to make which depends
      entirely on what you are doing with the aircraft!
      
      So, the functions of the tabs are:
      1/  To hold the tailplane in the chosen position (tabs flush when achieved) and
      provide a restoring force to the tailplane if it is moved away from it's chosen
      trimmed position - this is known as "feel" that is provided to the pilot through
      the stick - the further you move the stick away from the chosen trimmed
      position (without re-trimming) the greater the tab deflection and thus the greater
      this restoring force will "feel".  If there were no tabs then the tailplane
      would just stay wherever the pilot put it, regardless of speed/ airflow etc
      - but there would be no "feel" to the elevator at all (zero feel).
      2/  To be pilot-adjustable so that you can reset the trimmed (tabs flush) tailplane
      position as required during flight.
      
      Note that none of this theory specific to the Europa tailplane control is connected
      to the aircraft's longitudinal stability theory - that is a different subject
      and has no relevance specifically to balanced tailplanes or otherwise.  Longitudinal
      stability theory is the same on all conventional fixed wing aircraft
      regardless of tailplane design.
      
      Variances:  A perfectly constructed and balanced tailplane will always have it's
      tabs flush with the tailplane in steady correctly trimmed flight, regardless
      of speed and attitude.  Variation in build MAY affect this perfect state.  If
      the aerodynamic balance of the tailplane is not quite perfect (not quite the
      perfect tailplane profile section) then the balance of forces (created fore and
      aft of the torque tube) might not be quite perfectly equal with the trim tabs
      flush and so a slight tab deflection in the appropriate direction will be permanently
      needed in steady trimmed flight to balance the forces up again.  Not
      a problem, just very slightly less efficient due to the slight increase in drag
      caused by the permanently deflected tabs.  Also if the counterweight (mass
      balance weight) in the fuselage is not perfectly correct then this too will create
      an unwanted rotating force on the tailplane that would require an (unwanted
      and continuous) tab deflection to counter/ balance out this unwanted force.
      Also, if the pilot flies "out of trim" for some reason then a tab deflection
      will be required in the appropriate direction to oppose the pilot's push or pull
      force on the tailplane.  This one can easily be corrected though!!!
      
      The only real way to tell if your tailplane system is absolutely perfect in balance
      (aerodynamically as well as in weight) is to trim the aircraft perfectly
      in steady flight (any steady speed) and get a mate to come up behind you and take
      a close up photo of your tabs.  In a perfect set up they will be flush with
      the tailplane!!!!
      Cheers, Jon
      
      --------
      G-TERN
      Classic Mono
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=298563#298563
      
      
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| Subject:  | Engine Mount Strengthening Mod | 
      
      
      Gidday,
      I have just reamed out the undercarriage frame tubes that support the welded engine
      mounts attachments. I'm not convinced this is a good mod, at all. If the
      premise is to stop flexing of the attachment frame top tubes, I see the load now
      being focused on an area of circumferential stress, created by the end of the
      reamed tube and the closely proximated vertical bolt that holds the frame into
      the tunnel. The metal tubular inserts apply all the load on their ends, which
      is where this transition of internal diameters occurs, right up agains the
      bolt attachment.  I am lucky as  I have not yet installed the bolts. If I had,
      I would be very concerned. I personally reckon for anyone who hasn't done this
      mod to extend the inserts the entire length, and then drill through both tube
      and insert for attachment. This will obviously mean reaming out the entire
      length too, which can be easily done by welding an extension on the reamer. So,
      in anticipation of "doing it my way", I am interested in advice on what type
      of metal the insert would be please, for ordering purposes. For those wanting
      to consider this option, the longer inserts require 2 x 200 mm long x 16.5 mm
      dia x 2 mm wall thickness. In anticipation.
      Reg
      Tony Renshaw
      
      
 
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