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1. 07:44 AM - access to fuel pipes (graeme bird)
2. 07:46 AM - Material for cockpit covering (graeme bird)
3. 09:05 AM - Re: access to fuel pipes (Fred Klein)
4. 10:33 AM - Re: Popham International flyin (Mike Parkin)
5. 02:52 PM - Re: Material for cockpit covering (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
6. 03:04 PM - Re: Popham International flyin (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
7. 03:15 PM - Popham International Fly In. (Robert C Harrison)
8. 03:58 PM - Re: Material for cockpit covering (craig bastin)
9. 05:07 PM - Re: Material for cockpit covering (Fred Klein)
10. 05:59 PM - Re: Material for cockpit covering (craig bastin)
11. 07:29 PM - Re: Material for cockpit covering (rparigoris)
12. 07:30 PM - flaps (William Daniell)
13. 09:27 PM - Re: Popham International flyin (Fred Klein)
14. 11:17 PM - Re: Material for cockpit covering (Kingsley Hurst)
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| Subject: | access to fuel pipes |
The kit I am completing has the old type cloth an rubber fuel pipes
everywhere. I understand its recommended these are changed even if never
used, what is the preferred type now and how the dickens do you get at the
clips in the middle behind/under the seats?
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| Subject: | Material for cockpit covering |
Has anyone any suggestions for what to cover the cockpit walls and console
with - foam backed leather or vynnl maybe?
I suppose memory foam is the thing to use for the seats and seat backs -
maybe 2-3 inches for seat and 1" for back, does that sound right?
Regards Graeme
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| Subject: | Re: access to fuel pipes |
On Jun 13, 2010, at 7:43 AM, graeme bird wrote:
> what is the preferred type now and how the dickens do you get at the
> clips in the middle behind/under the seats?
I've used the blue teflon-lined R9 hose throughout (aft of the
firewall)...if your existing clips are not snug to the hose diameter,
presumably one could thread new hose thru them w/ long tongs
(hemostats)...nasty job...good luck...Fred
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| Subject: | Popham International flyin |
Dave Buzz, Steve Pitt (+junior).
Thanks to all you chaps at Popham, excellent organisation, great food,
'beverages' and company. The largest Europa line up I have ever seen. What
more could one ask for.
Regards to our friends from the Netherlands, your effort to attend made all
the difference - "Dank U".
Regards,
Mike
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Pitt
Sent: 12 June 2010 23:20
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Popham International flyin
Just returned from a very successful Europa Flyin at Popham - nearly 40
Europas including 2 from Holland. Great weather, great company and an
excellent day.
More promised tomorrow.
Steve Pitt
G-SMDH
----- Original Message -----
From: Rayfitton@virginmedia.com
Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2010 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Popham International flyin
Just drove past and saw two of you parked up
Gate was shut so gone home
Ray
Sent from my iPhone
On 11 Jun 2010, at 21:22, GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
wrote:
I'm going but driving in. Be nice to see some Europeans there!
Graham
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From: Bob Fairall <Bob.Fairall@fairalls.co.uk>
Sent: Friday, 11 June, 2010 13:36:35
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Popham International flyin
I'm planning to go ........... Bob Fairall, G-BXLK, Classic mono.
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frans Veldman
Sent: 11 June 2010 13:20
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Popham International flyin
On 06/11/2010 08:05 AM, Steven Pitt wrote:
> YOUR CLUB NEEDS YOU!!!!!
We sent a mail to David Blossomworth about our intention to join the
party, but we didn't get a reply.
Anyway, is there a list of who's attending? We plan to go there
tomorrow, if weather permits.
Frans Veldman
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| Subject: | Re: Material for cockpit covering |
Someone had mentioned to me to look at trunk (boot in the UK) lining materi
al, avaialable at auto or truck supply stores.=C2-=C2-It can be glued i
n quite easily.=C2- For my plane, I intend to paint the interior initiall
y.=C2- Seats -- can't help you, I still need to cross that bridge.=C2-
My intent is to have some fairly simple cushions made and velcro them in.
=C2- My wife is short, so we will have them made for her from two differe
nt thicknesses.=C2-
Jim Puglise A-283=C2-
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From: "graeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
Sent: Sunday, June 13, 2010 10:46:23 AM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
Subject: Europa-List: Material for cockpit covering
Has anyone any suggestions for what to cover the cockpit walls and console
with - foam backed leather or vynnl maybe?
I suppose memory foam is the thing to use for the seats and seat backs - ma
ybe 2-3 inches for seat and 1" for back, does that sound right?
===============
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| Subject: | Re: Popham International flyin |
Popham 2010,=0AWorth every penny of the subs just to experience the results
the generosity of all the hard working committee achieve but especially Da
ve Buzz and Ian and Irene.. Dave's enthusiasm gives an enormous boost to e
verything the club does. =0AThe arrival of old and new Dutch friends was a
high point, nice to meet you Frans and Tim and your wonderful ladies, (my s
hort term memory for names has hiccuped again)=0A=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A_____
___________________________=0AFrom: Mike Parkin <mikenjulie.parkin@btintern
et.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sunday, 13 June, 2010 18:29
:20=0ASubject: RE: Europa-List: Popham International flyin=0A=0A =0ADave Bu
zz, Steve Pitt (+junior).=0A =0AThanks to all you chaps at Popham, excellen
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largest Europa line up I have=0Aever seen. What more could one ask for.=0A
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Mike=0A =0ADo not archive.=0A =0AFrom:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.co
m=0A[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Pit
t=0ASent: 12 June 2010 23:20=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re:
Europa-List: Popham International flyin=0A =0AJust=0Areturned from a very
successful Europa Flyin at Popham - nearly 40 Europas=0Aincluding 2 from Ho
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| Subject: | Popham International Fly In. |
Hi!
Steve Pit and Dave Buzz.
Thanks for organizing the Fly In and although I only got to briefly meet one
continental I am delighted to see some able to sample our hospitality since
they have so often made us welcome at their Rallies all over Europe.
I was also pleased to have been able to get G-PTAG out of it's "stable" and
use it again.
We are hoping that a great many of you will support us at the Wickenby Wings
and Wheels Air Show next weekend 19th and 20th.(EGNW) There will be a number
of "classic old birds" strutting their stuff and static displays too.
Just out of interest the TruTrak wing leveler enabled me to fly "hands
totally free" from 2,000ft leaving Wickenby through to Popham and back.
Even the pitch was managed by trim and power all the way.
Pity I didn't have it before on many of my continental tours. It would have
saved many a close shave.
Regards to all.
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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| Subject: | Material for cockpit covering |
one thing with the memory foam, it is quite heavy, kingsley in australia
showed me his latex memory foam seat base cushions and they must have
weighed
about 15kg, unless you are refering to different foam
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of graeme bird
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 12:46 AM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Europa-List: Material for cockpit covering
Has anyone any suggestions for what to cover the cockpit walls and console
with - foam backed leather or vynnl maybe?
I suppose memory foam is the thing to use for the seats and seat backs -
maybe 2-3 inches for seat and 1" for back, does that sound right?
Regards Graeme
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| Subject: | Re: Material for cockpit covering |
On Jun 13, 2010, at 4:04 PM, craig bastin wrote:
> one thing with the memory foam, it is quite heavy
I just weighed my cushions...seat back cushion = 0.9 pounds; seat
cushion = 3.75 pounds (each (obviously uncovered)...total: 9.2 pounds.
Seat backs are 1" regular foam wrapped around 2 sticks of left over
memory foam for lumbar support + regular foam wedges. Seat cushion is
1" hi dens memory foam (green) + 1" less dens memory foam (blue) + reg
foam wedges. For better thigh support, seat cushion extends about 4"
fwd of vertical CM diaphragm . The green foam is so-called "crash
foam"...a real plus IMO. Note, in photo, back cushions are temporarily
propped up w/ some pink rigid foam blocks; covering will include
velcro straps down the rear face of the raised portion of the CM.
Though I've yet to spend hours on end just sitting and making airplane
noises...they do seem comfy.
Fred
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| Subject: | Material for cockpit covering |
that is certainly a lot lighter than kingsley's, he must be using different
stuff
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Fred Klein
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 10:06 AM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Material for cockpit covering
On Jun 13, 2010, at 4:04 PM, craig bastin wrote:
one thing with the memory foam, it is quite heavy
I just weighed my cushions...seat back cushion = 0.9 pounds; seat cushion
= 3.75 pounds (each (obviously uncovered)...total: 9.2 pounds.
Seat backs are 1" regular foam wrapped around 2 sticks of left over
memory foam for lumbar support + regular foam wedges. Seat cushion is 1" hi
dens memory foam (green) + 1" less dens memory foam (blue) + reg foam
wedges. For better thigh support, seat cushion extends about 4" fwd of
vertical CM diaphragm . The green foam is so-called "crash foam"...a real
plus IMO. Note, in photo, back cushions are temporarily propped up w/ some
pink rigid foam blocks; covering will include velcro straps down the rear
face of the raised portion of the CM.
Though I've yet to spend hours on end just sitting and making airplane
noises...they do seem comfy.
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: Material for cockpit covering |
Hi Graeme
You may find some useful info about Factory interior here:
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=28441
After adding lumbar support and making adjustments, fit is OK and seems comfortable
(not yet flying).
Ron Parigoris
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301115#301115
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well i finally got my flaps assembled following the procedure in the
book....
I find that there is about 4 degrees of difference in the deflection of
the flaps.
I am assuming that this is not normal and will cause weird flying
characteristics but before I take everything to bits (for the umpteenth
time) i wanted to consult the collective wisdom about this.
Will
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| Subject: | Re: Popham International flyin |
On Jun 12, 2010, at 3:20 PM, Steven Pitt wrote:
> Europa Flyin at Popham - nearly 40 Europas including 2 from Holland.
Congratulations gentlemen...does anyone have a pix or two?...would
love to see 40 Europas in a row...
F.
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| Subject: | Re: Material for cockpit covering |
Craig,
It is obviously too long since you visited me. All my cushions as
supplied by Oregon Aero weigh a total of 5 kg (11 lbs) The extra 10kg
you speak of is probably about right for the amount that "I" am too
heavy!!
Cheers
Kingsley
Do not archive.
----- Original Message -----
From: craig bastin
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 9:04 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Material for cockpit covering
one thing with the memory foam, it is quite heavy, kingsley in
australia
showed me his latex memory foam seat base cushions and they must have
weighed
about 15kg, unless you are refering to different foam
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