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1. 12:21 AM - Re: Popham International flyin (John Wighton)
2. 12:41 AM - Re: Re: Popham International flyin (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
3. 01:50 AM - Piano hinge for cowling (p-a.austin)
4. 02:02 AM - Re: Piano hinge for cowling (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
5. 04:21 AM - Re: flaps (William Daniell)
6. 11:23 AM - Rough River (JEFF ROBERTS)
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| Subject: | Re: Popham International flyin |
Apologies for the rather excessive size of the attachments in last post. I do
hope it does not bung up the system!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301269#301269
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| Subject: | Re: Popham International flyin |
Nice pictures John, memories of a wonderful day=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____
____________________________=0AFrom: John Wighton <john@wighton.net>=0ATo:
europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, 15 June, 2010 8:19:31=0ASubject:
Europa-List: Re: Popham International flyin=0A=0A--> Europa-List message p
osted by: "John Wighton" <john@wighton.net>=0A=0AApologies for the rather e
xcessive size of the attachments in last post. I do hope it does not bung
up the system!=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forum
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| Subject: | Piano hinge for cowling |
Rick,
Keep in mind that the hinge will be following the curve(s) of the cowl, this
has the effect of making the gaps where the hinge halves mate together
smaller, you will need to file a small taper on each end of each lug. Also
in my case the original hinge wire ended up being to hard to insert and
remove. I went for a stainless wire that was a fraction smaller in diameter
and it works well.
Regards
Peter ZK-ZEB
> I have the Canadian cowling for the Jabiru engine and was wanting to use
> Piano
> hinge for the side. I put the two pieces together and cleoed the hinge in
> place
> then glassed it in. After all four pieces dried I had a hell of a time to
> get the two cowl to come together.
>
> What did I do wrong. I'm thinking that I'm going to have cut the two
> hinges in
> the top cowl out and re-applied glass to them once I have the cowl back in
> place.
>
>
> Rick Stockton
> A210 60-70%
> Engine installed, cowling almost complete
> wiring complete
> Wind screen to go
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301218#301218
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/engine_installed_006_747.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:44:34 PM PST US
> From: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Popham International flyin
>
> Well done Carl - great picture.
> Steve Pitt
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Carl Pattinson
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:47 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Popham International flyin
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Was I the only one taking piccies -
>
> Wall to wall Europas and thats probably less than half of the 40 odd
> that attended.
>
> Enjoy
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 15
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 10:57:11 PM PST US
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: Popham International flyin
> From: "John Wighton" <john@wighton.net>
>
>
> Here are a few more pics. I took shots of most attendees, mainly rear 3/4
> shots.
> Email if you want a specific plane. Note Frans heavily modded
> cowl/cooling/ventilation
> on Dutch reg Europa PH-DIY.
> :P
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301268#301268
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_153_864.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_152_208.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_165_643.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_160_863.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_163_954.jpg
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_121_713.jpg
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Piano hinge for cowling |
One way is to file a taper on the end of the hinge pin, oil it well and dri
ll it in carefully after you get it started. (ie put the other end in a dri
ll)=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: p-a.aus
tin <p-a.austin@xnet.co.nz>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday
, 15 June, 2010 9:49:20=0ASubject: Europa-List: Piano hinge for cowling=0A
=0A=0A=0ARick,=0A=0AKeep in mind that the hinge will be following the curve
(s) of the cowl, this =0Ahas the effect of making the gaps where the hinge
halves mate together =0Asmaller, you will need to file a small taper on eac
h end of each lug. Also =0Ain my case the original hinge wire ended up bein
g to hard to insert and =0Aremove. I went for a stainless wire that was a f
raction smaller in diameter =0Aand it works well.=0A=0ARegards=0A=0APeter Z
K-ZEB=0A=0A=0A> I have the Canadian cowling for the Jabiru engine and was w
anting to use =0A> Piano=0A> hinge for the side. I put the two pieces toge
ther and cleoed the hinge in =0A> place=0A> then glassed it in. After all
four pieces dried I had a hell of a time to=0A> get the two cowl to come to
gether.=0A>=0A> What did I do wrong. I'm thinking that I'm going to have c
ut the two =0A> hinges in=0A> the top cowl out and re-applied glass to them
once I have the cowl back in =0A> place.=0A>=0A>=0A> Rick Stockton=0A> A21
0 60-70%=0A> Engine installed, cowling almost complete=0A> wiring complete
=0A> Wind screen to go=0A>=0A>=0A> Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A> htt
p://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301218#301218=0A>=0A>=0A> Attach
ments:=0A>=0A> http://forums.matronics.com//files/engine_installed_006_747.
jpg=0A>=0A>=0A> ________________________________ Message 14 =0A> _________
___________________________=0A>=0A>=0A> Time: 01:44:34 PM PST US=0A> From:
"Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>=0A> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Pop
ham International flyin=0A>=0A> Well done Carl - great picture.=0A> Steve P
itt=0A> ----- Original Message ----- =0A> From: Carl Pattinson=0A> To: e
uropa-list@matronics.com=0A> Sent: Monday, June 14, 2010 8:47 PM=0A> Subj
ect: Re: Europa-List: Popham International flyin=0A>=0A>=0A> Hi all,=0A>
=0A> Was I the only one taking piccies -=0A>=0A> Wall to wall Europas and
thats probably less than half of the 40 odd=0A> that attended.=0A>=0A> En
joy=0A>=0A>=0A> ________________________________ Message 15 =0A> _________
___________________________=0A>=0A>=0A> Time: 10:57:11 PM PST US=0A> Subjec
t: Europa-List: Re: Popham International flyin=0A> From: "John Wighton" <jo
hn@wighton.net>=0A>=0A>=0A> Here are a few more pics. I took shots of most
attendees, mainly rear 3/4 =0A> shots.=0A> Email if you want a specific pl
ane. Note Frans heavily modded =0A> cowl/cooling/ventilation=0A> on Dutch
reg Europa PH-DIY.=0A> :P=0A>=0A>=0A> Read this topic online here:=0A>=0A>
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=301268#301268=0A>=0A>=0A> Att
achments:=0A>=0A> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_153_864.jpg=0A
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_152_208.jpg=0A> http://forums.
matronics.com//files/picture_165_643.jpg=0A> http://forums.matronics.com//f
iles/picture_160_863.jpg=0A> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_163
_954.jpg=0A> http://forums.matronics.com//files/picture_121_713.jpg=0A>=0A>
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Yup Pete thanks
the problem was a slight offset in the tube which I fixed by drilling a
third hole and enlarging the offending lower hole which caused the offset
An almost imperceptible offset on the lugs caused a 3deg difference in
the flaps which might have caused interesting flying characteristics :-)
Will
Peter Jeffers wrote:
>
> Since both flaps are driven by the same motor (lever, if we are talking
> Monowheel)then the only way the movement range of the two flaps can differ
> is if when retracted one flap reaches its up stop (ie in the wing T/E) 4
> degrees before the other. Due to the flexibility of the linking drive rod
> (sorry can't remember the part no) one flap can stop prior to the other but
> will end up fully retracted ie zero degrees, with the link rod slightly
> twisted. Trouble is when you extend, one flap will start moving
> significantly prior to the other. They both stop moving when the flap motor
> stops but one will have travelled further.
> If you find this to be the case then the problem is with the original flap
> rigging to the drive link rod. Possibly incorrect attachment of the link rod
> to the fuselage flap hinge arm.
>
> Pete Jeffers
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William Daniell
> Sent: 14 June 2010 03:29
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: flaps
>
>
> well i finally got my flaps assembled following the procedure in the
> book....
>
> I find that there is about 4 degrees of difference in the deflection of
> the flaps.
>
> I am assuming that this is not normal and will cause weird flying
> characteristics but before I take everything to bits (for the umpteenth
> time) i wanted to consult the collective wisdom about this.
>
> Will
>
>
> .
>
>
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Hey John Wigney. I don't have your direct e-mail but Paul suggested I
talk to you on Rough River. He's out of the country right now. How
about dropping me an e-mail or call me to discuss it. I believe there
was talk about re-doing with the EAA local chapter like last year.
Lets talk.
Regards,
Jeff Roberts
Gold Rush &
Eagleville Marketing Group
615-355-7575 Office
615-406-8651 Cell
615-534-1082 Fax
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