---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/23/10: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:05 AM - Re: New Tail Spring (Brian Davies) 2. 12:12 AM - Re: New Tail Spring (Fred Klein) 3. 12:59 AM - Re: Baggage bay strengthening for gear (jglazener) 4. 04:38 AM - Re: New Tail Spring (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us) 5. 06:36 AM - New Rough River Count (JEFF ROBERTS) 6. 01:26 PM - Re: New Rough River Count (Jim Brown) 7. 02:09 PM - Rough River Update # 3 (JEFF ROBERTS) 8. 02:38 PM - Re: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland (Raimo Toivio) 9. 02:43 PM - Re: Firewall material vs Canada "fireproof material" airworthiness requirement (david miller) 10. 03:09 PM - Re: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland (Robert Borger) 11. 03:12 PM - Re: Re: Baggage bay strengthening for gear (Greg Fuchs) 12. 03:35 PM - Re: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland (Raimo Toivio) 13. 04:00 PM - Re: Firewall material vs Canada "fireproof material" airworthiness requirement (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 14. 04:07 PM - Re: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 15. 04:43 PM - Re: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland (Robert Borger) 16. 04:52 PM - Re: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland (Raimo Toivio) 17. 05:11 PM - Re: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland (Raimo Toivio) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:21 AM PST US From: "Brian Davies" Subject: RE: Europa-List: New Tail Spring Hi John. Heat up the tail spring. The epoxy will let go surprisingly early! Regards Brian Davies -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of John Price Sent: 23 June 2010 07:37 Subject: Europa-List: New Tail Spring --> We have a slightly bent tail spring which we need to replace. Any clues on how to get the old one out. The retaining bolt is easy, but as to removing the epoxy at the base of the rudder ? Any thoughts would be appreciated. John Price. G-SHSH [Rolling Eyes] Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302172#302172 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:12:43 AM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: New Tail Spring On Jun 22, 2010, at 11:36 PM, John Price wrote: > The retaining bolt is easy, but as to removing the epoxy John...just a thought (no experience) but I thought that the Redux softens readily w/ heat...why wouldn't you just use a heat gun?...but do wait for more experienced hands to weigh in. Good luck, Fred ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:29 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Baggage bay strengthening for gear From: "jglazener" Greg, For your second point, the uni goes over front, bottom and rear, and to the top of both bulkheads. The rather cryptic description in fact says it should be BETWEEN the the two sides and NOT lapping on to them. As far as putting the large bid in in one piece, forget it. With a lot of force you may be able to squeeze it all in but all you will get is a heavy ball of resin rich fibre which contributes little strength. Start on one side, smooth it out and then you will find the bid starts bunching up on the other side. Cut in and take one or two triangles out. Make sure the ends overlap well and you will have a neat and structurally sound lay-up with the fibres seated properly. That said, it is still the most horrendous job of the build (so far..) see http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=44767 Wishing you success and patience, Jeroen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302175#302175 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:38:15 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: New Tail Spring From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us Hi John Like others have mentioned, Redux begins to soften ~ 160F, thus you can get it to soften enough to remove without hurting Epoxy resin on fuse. Curiosity question, was your spring bolt bent also? What sort of trauma was needed to get spring to bend? I incorporated a piece of metal that helps prevent bolt from bending. See about half way down page: http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=27732&g2_page=2 Don't want to make spring too stuck to fuse, that way not only would spring bend but you could damage fuse which is much harder to repair. That said flight Crafters said it dosen't take too much of a swerve to bend bolt. Thx. Ron Parigoris > > > We have a slightly bent tail spring which we need to replace. Any clues on > how to get the old one out. The retaining bolt is easy, but as to removing > the epoxy at the base of the rudder ? Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > John Price. > G-SHSH [Rolling Eyes] > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302172#302172 > > > > > > > > > Features Navigator to browse as List Un/Subscription, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > > available via the Web Forums! http://forums.matronics.com > > generous support! --> http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:38 AM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Europa-List: New Rough River Count Guy's we're up to 9 Europa's coming in. Lets keep it going! Call everyone you know thats got one in the air. I have sent offerings to the weather gods. They promised to be good to us. Jeff R Jeff & Mary Buhrans - Flying Baby Blue in. Jeff & Karen Roberts - N128LJ Gold Rush Flying In Troy & Donna Maynor - Flying his brand new Mono Classic ;o).. Jim & Lynne Puglise - Flying or Driving the motor home. Fred Kline.... All the way from California. John & Susan Lawton - N245E Flying his Jab powered Europa Bob Borger N914XL - Flying In from Texas Paul McAllister... Out of the country right now but we hope he'll be showing us some much and improved cowl mods. Jim & Heather Butcher - Flying in Bud Yearly - N12AY Flying in Yea Bud! ... any other Europa's down there we can get up? ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:03 PM PST US From: Jim Brown Subject: Re: Europa-List: New Rough River Count I was talking to Bud today, I will be flying along side him in JimBob,- N 398JB. -Do not-know.-if Augustene will make the trip.....=0A=0AJim Br own =0AXS monowheel.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: JEFF ROBERTS =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wed, June 23, 2010 9:31:33 AM=0ASubject: Europa-List: New Rough River Count=0A 's we're up to 9 Europa's coming in. Lets keep it going! Call everyone you know thats got one in the air. I have sent offerings to the weather gods. T hey promised to be good to us.=0AJeff R=0A=0A=0A=0AJeff & Mary Buhrans - Fl ying Baby Blue in.=0AJeff & Karen Roberts - N128LJ Gold Rush Flying In=0ATr oy & Donna Maynor - Flying his brand new Mono Classic ;o)..=0AJim & Lynne P uglise - Flying or Driving the motor home.=0AFred Kline.... All the way fro m California.=0AJohn & Susan Lawton - N245E Flying his Jab powered Europa =0ABob Borger N914XL - Flying In from Texas=0APaul McAllister...- Out of the country right now but we hope he'll be showing us some much and improve d cowl mods.=0AJim & Heather Butcher - Flying in=0ABud Yearly - N12AY Flyin g in Yea Bud! ... any other Europa's down there we can get up?=0A=0A=0A=0A ==================0A=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:47 PM PST US From: JEFF ROBERTS Subject: Europa-List: Rough River Update # 3 Welcome Jim Brown!! Looking forward to seeing you and JimBob! We're up to 10 Europa's guys... lets keep spreading the word and keep them coming! Don't forget to reserve your rooms or cabins if you haven't yet. Jeff Jeff & Mary Buhrans - N55XS Flying Baby Blue in. Jeff & Karen Roberts - N128LJ Gold Rush Flying In Troy & Donna Maynor - Flying his brand new Mono Classic ;o).. Jim & Lynne Puglise - Flying or Driving the motor home. Fred Kline.... All the way from California. John & Susan Lawton - N245E Flying his Jab powered Europa Bob Borger N914XL - Flying In from Texas Paul McAllister... N378PJ Back in the country and getting new cowl mods ready. Jim & Heather Butcher - Flying in Bud Yearly - N12AY Flying in... Yea Bud! Jim Brown - N398JB - AKA JimBob. ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:38:44 PM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland Hi Bob, Raimo, Good work! Great shop/hanger/bar&grill! How 'bout some pics of the inside? Bob Borger Thanks for pushing me upp, again! Inside? All the bits and things are there but not in the perfect order so far. They will be, during the next weeks (that is my honest wish!). I asked today my Wife (Marke!) just to lift the doors upp and here you are - are you happy now Bob? Later you will get more detailed photos about the secrets inside if you like. BTW, My wife and me will have the 10th Wedding Day 15th of August 2010. It is The Sunday, of course! Accidentally, we will have here (EFTP) same time the biggest air show in the country including a real flying Spitfire and so. Sunday, 6=B4clock pm (1500 zulu or GMT time) we will have here at EFTP *** a little*** festival. That is partly for our 10th WD, also partly for that new hanger (hangar I would like to write). *** And mostly because that wonderful life we all (all!) are living just now, are not we! *** That is why you ALL (I mean you all in the the EUROPA community) are invited! Just let me know if you are coming just 4 weeks before (that is VERY mportant)! All the food and some beers and just a drop a wine will be free. During that time in Finland, all the beautifully flying boys will find a free bed to stay their night or even more, easily. I will accommondate all the possible Europa Female Pilots - I am sure they all are pretty. *** PLEASE WELCOME (and please remember let me know IN TIME !!!) *** Terveisin, Raimo Toivio Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +150 hrs During 2010, 3th flght. 37500 Lemp=E4=E4l=E4 FINLAND p +358-3-3753 777 f +358-3-3753 100 toivio@fly.to www.rwm.fi From: Robert Borger Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:45 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland Raimo, Good work! Great shop/hanger/bar&grill! How 'bout some pics of the inside? Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232 http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046 Europa Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Jun 17, 2010, at 19:39, Raimo Toivio wrote: Europa Community - All of You ! I wanna share this moment instantly with all of you around the globe. I am writing this time 0330 AM - I came just from The EFTP. Last time when I have been airborne and a pilot was 13th of November 2009. That was because OH-XRT (and many other poor planes here) lost her hangar space in The EFTP. That was a serious business! I decided to make my own hangar and I call it The Europa[e] Hall ! That is why I have been really busy during last weeks! It was completed tonight! Look at the attached photo! If you check it carefully, you will notice Europa=B4s official logo is slightly modified in this case! Inside - there is a little bar, grill, service shop, alarm, safety cams via internet recording ability, some aviation gizmos, nose artist girls and other necessary equipments. It=B4s size is just compact 9 x 12 m2. My wife certainly planted some rose bushes beside it! Because it is on a little hill, it is equipped also with an electric tow machine to pull RT inside (she is so fat lady that even for me it is almost too hard task to pull her inside manually). I trailered today OH-XRT from her home hangar from Lempaala to The EFTP and had also my first aviation session today. I was thrilled - I have been grounded over seven months. Could I fly any more (that wild tail wheeled mono)? Rotax fired upp immediately. Everything was ok. I taxied about 15 minutes and it felt so good! After I did some touch and goes and it felt also good or even better if possible. I did some of my best landings - Europa is really landable from the first touch to the final stop using less than 300 metres runway. After that I had a local flight 50 minutes. That seven months meant nothing - I felt as I had been airborne yesterday. Obviously flying Europa has gone to my backbone and more or less to my ass too! I feel COMPLETELY happy now! You there around the globe and still building: build it fast - just do it and complete it ! What sooner that better - it is really worth of it! Terveisin, Raimo Toivio (v=E4h=E4n mopo nyt keulii mutta antaa sen keulia) Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 155.10 hrs and 315 happy landings! 37500 Lempaala FINLAND p +358-3-3753 777 f +358-3-3753 100 toivio@fly.to www.rwm.fi ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:43:30 PM PST US From: david miller Subject: Re: Europa-List: Firewall material vs Canada "fireproof material" airworthiness requirement Luc, The skydrive installation is a minor job, if all goes well, but the tolerances are very tight and when I did mine I was very relieved that the unit did not get stuck half way. I don't think you need a gascolator, but would recommend fitting one. If you go back in the archives, Bud posted an item on a heating system, but it will take some work. I've tried taking heat from the muffler and the exhaust pipe, but with little success. My aircraft is pleasant to fly with the temps around zero C, provided that it is sunny. Generally I can't get my plane out of the hangar once the snow flies, so I've decided that long Johns and battery heated socks are all I need if I can get out of the hangar. You will not get much heat off a 912, my 912S runs cool. Dave > > > As for the carb heat, looks like a minor job if using that Skydrive > technology. > > What about the gascolator requirement ? Anyone been able to get > away with only fuel drains at the lowest point in the fuel system ? > > Finally my wife asks about the cabin heat. I know that N202Y > doesnt have cabin heat; the guys down South say it's a warm > cabin... Is that the case ? Would it be required if I wanted to > fly in ~ 0C ground temperature ? Any way to easily fit this in a > Classic with R912UL ? > > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > ronics.com > ww.matronics.com/contribution > > > arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > tp://forums.matronics.com > _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:09:34 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland From: Robert Borger Raimo, You have out-done yourself. Three beauties in one picture. You are a lucky man! Congratulations on your 10th Wedding day. Enjoy the big party. Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232 http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046 Europa Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Jun 23, 2010, at 16:31, Raimo Toivio wrote: > Hi Bob, > > Thanks for pushing me upp, again! > > Inside? All the bits and things are there but not in the perfect order so far. > They will be, during the next weeks (that is my honest wish!). > > I asked today my Wife (Marke!) just to lift the doors upp and here you are - are you happy now Bob? > > Later you will get more detailed photos about the secrets inside if you like. > > BTW, > > My wife and me will have the 10th Wedding Day 15th of August 2010. > It is The Sunday, of course! > > Accidentally, we will have here (EFTP) same time the biggest air show in the country including a real flying Spitfire and so. > > Sunday, 6=B4clock pm (1500 zulu or GMT time) we will have here at EFTP *** a little*** festival. > That is partly for our 10th WD, also partly for that new hanger (hangar I would like to write). > > *** > And mostly because that wonderful life we all (all!) are living just now, are not we! > > *** > > That is why you ALL (I mean you all in the the EUROPA community) are invited! > > Just let me know if you are coming just 4 weeks before (that is VERY mportant)! > > All the food and some beers and just a drop a wine will be free. > > During that time in Finland, all the beautifully flying boys will find a free bed to stay their night or even more, easily. > > I will accommondate all the possible Europa Female Pilots - I am sure they all are pretty. > > *** > > PLEASE WELCOME (and please remember let me know IN TIME !!!) > > *** > > Terveisin, Raimo Toivio > > Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +150 hrs > > During 2010, 3th flght. > > 37500 Lemp=E4=E4l=E4 > FINLAND > > p +358-3-3753 777 > f +358-3-3753 100 > > toivio@fly.to > www.rwm.fi > > > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:12:50 PM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Baggage bay strengthening for gear Jeroen, Geez!!!! Rather cryptic doesn't begin to describe the manuals statement...or rather miss-statement. I just checked the latest PDF of this chapter and they certainly don't say 'between' sidewall to center tunnel (though I agree..that is probably what they mean-but who could know?). In my interpretation, they say essentially to cover the rear bulkhead (i.e.. rear 'face' only) 'from' sidewall to center tunnel. So I think someone should change the description in the manual if we are to get out of it what seems to be the better way to do it. Intuitively, it makes a whole lot more sense to me, to run the 'uni' on the front, bottom and rear faces of the gear box....than to just run it on the rear face only. That MUST be what the manual is trying to say. It seems that would have a tendency to strengthen up the box to lateral forces imposed against it, of the type that might happen by the twisting of the gear legs, when doing a landing in which the aircraft was not quite lined up with the runway. Thanks so much, Jeroen! If you had not spoken up, I would have done this ply incorrectly. Now the ugly question. How many others did not interpret the manual correctly? Not meaning to spread fear here, as it seems the boxes have handled a lot of abuse, and the gear legs tend to fold before the box does....but for those that didn't interpret the manual correctly (as I would have done), better watch those crabbed landings to get the aircraft oriented back to centerline before touchdown! Comments? Then again, don't we good pilots do that anyway? :) I look forward to getting this most horrendous job of the build finished. Regards...and thanks again, Greg -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of jglazener Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 12:58 AM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Baggage bay strengthening for gear Greg, For your second point, the uni goes over front, bottom and rear, and to the top of both bulkheads. The rather cryptic description in fact says it should be BETWEEN the the two sides and NOT lapping on to them. As far as putting the large bid in in one piece, forget it. With a lot of force you may be able to squeeze it all in but all you will get is a heavy ball of resin rich fibre which contributes little strength. Start on one side, smooth it out and then you will find the bid starts bunching up on the other side. Cut in and take one or two triangles out. Make sure the ends overlap well and you will have a neat and structurally sound lay-up with the fibres seated properly. That said, it is still the most horrendous job of the build (so far..) see http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=44767 Wishing you success and patience, Jeroen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302175#302175 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 03:35:40 PM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland Bob, you are right: 1) My Wife 2) My Europa 3) My Tent. Thank you for congratulations! Could you please come and join us? Terveisin, Raimo Toivio Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +150 hrs 37500 Lemp=E4=E4l=E4 FINLAND p +358-3-3753 777 f +358-3-3753 100 toivio@fly.to www.rwm.fi From: Robert Borger Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 1:08 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland Raimo, You have out-done yourself. Three beauties in one picture. You are a lucky man! Congratulations on your 10th Wedding day. Enjoy the big party. Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232 http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046 Europa Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Jun 23, 2010, at 16:31, Raimo Toivio wrote: Hi Bob, Thanks for pushing me upp, again! Inside? All the bits and things are there but not in the perfect order so far. They will be, during the next weeks (that is my honest wish!). I asked today my Wife (Marke!) just to lift the doors upp and here you are - are you happy now Bob? Later you will get more detailed photos about the secrets inside if you like. BTW, My wife and me will have the 10th Wedding Day 15th of August 2010. It is The Sunday, of course! Accidentally, we will have here (EFTP) same time the biggest air show in the country including a real flying Spitfire and so. Sunday, 6=B4clock pm (1500 zulu or GMT time) we will have here at EFTP *** a little*** festival. That is partly for our 10th WD, also partly for that new hanger (hangar I would like to write). *** And mostly because that wonderful life we all (all!) are living just now, are not we! *** That is why you ALL (I mean you all in the the EUROPA community) are invited! Just let me know if you are coming just 4 weeks before (that is VERY mportant)! All the food and some beers and just a drop a wine will be free. During that time in Finland, all the beautifully flying boys will find a free bed to stay their night or even more, easily. I will accommondate all the possible Europa Female Pilots - I am sure they all are pretty. *** PLEASE WELCOME (and please remember let me know IN TIME !!!) *** Terveisin, Raimo Toivio Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +150 hrs During 2010, 3th flght. 37500 Lemp=E4=E4l=E4 FINLAND p +358-3-3753 777 f +358-3-3753 100 toivio@fly.to www.rwm.fi ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:00:21 PM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Firewall material vs Canada "fireproof material" airworthiness requirement Dave=0AImho the Skydrive carb heat is the only sensible way to go. Similarl y an Andair or equivalent quality gascolator is also the only sensible way to go, really you need two gascolators, which is expensive, but I would go with one and a Purolator one in the reserve line. Then it is easy to check for water and muck before every day's flying. which (other people's) experi ence tells us is a vital action.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________ _____________=0AFrom: david miller =0ATo: europa-li st@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, 23 June, 2010 22:54:46=0ASubject: Re: E uropa-List: Firewall material vs Canada "fireproof material" airworthines s requirement=0A=0ALuc,=0A=0AThe skydrive installation is a minor job, if a ll goes well, but the tolerances are very tight and when I did mine I was v ery relieved that the=0Aunit did not get stuck half way. =0A=0AI don't thin k you need a gascolator, but would recommend fitting one.=0A=0ADave ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 04:07:48 PM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland Looks wonderful Raimo, well done. Wish you weren't so far away. It took me 24 hours to get to Ivalo last time I came!=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_________ _______________________=0AFrom: Raimo Toivio =0ATo: eu ropa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, 23 June, 2010 22:31:59=0ASubject : Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland=0A=0A=0AHi Bob,=0A =0ARaimo, =0A=0AGood work! Great shop/hanger/bar&grill! How 'bout some p ics =0Aof the inside?=0A=0A=0ABob =0ABorger=0A ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 04:43:02 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland From: Robert Borger Raimo, I dearly wish I could come join you. Finland is high on my list of places to visit. I feel like I have some very good friends there. But not this time. Perhaps next year if things go well. I would like to make the next Europa Club Annual Meeting if it is at all possible. Then the next visit to that part of the world would be Finland. Best wishes, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232 http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046 Europa Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Jun 23, 2010, at 17:32, Raimo Toivio wrote: > Bob, > > you are right: > > 1) My Wife > > 2) My Europa > > 3) My Tent. > > > Thank you for congratulations! Could you please come and join us? > > Terveisin, Raimo Toivio > > Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +150 hrs > > 37500 Lemp=E4=E4l=E4 > FINLAND > > p +358-3-3753 777 > f +358-3-3753 100 > > toivio@fly.to > www.rwm.fi ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 04:52:10 PM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland Thanks Graham, It will take just 2 hours from London (Stanstedt by Ryanair) to Tampere Finland - not 24 hours! >From Tampere to Ivalo it some times takes 22 hrs or even more. But as you well know - We are here near by Tampere! So, welcome, easily! http://www.ryanair.com/fi Raimo From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 2:06 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland Looks wonderful Raimo, well done. Wish you weren't so far away. It took me 24 hours to get to Ivalo last time I came! Graham ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- From: Raimo Toivio Sent: Wednesday, 23 June, 2010 22:31:59 Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland Hi Bob, Raimo, Good work! Great shop/hanger/bar&grill! How 'bout some pics of the inside? Bob Borger ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 05:11:16 PM PST US From: "Raimo Toivio" Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland Bob, do it and welcome (to our home)! I really can promise - you will not repent (coming to Finland)! Raimo Terveisin, Raimo Toivio Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +150 hrs, 912S, Airmaster CS (btw only one in the counry) 37500 Lemp=E4=E4l=E4 FINLAND p +358-3-3753 777 f +358-3-3753 100 toivio@fly.to www.rwm.fi From: Robert Borger Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2010 2:42 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland Raimo, I dearly wish I could come join you. Finland is high on my list of places to visit. I feel like I have some very good friends there. But not this time. Perhaps next year if things go well. I would like to make the next Europa Club Annual Meeting if it is at all possible. Then the next visit to that part of the world would be Finland. Best wishes, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232 http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046 Europa Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Jun 23, 2010, at 17:32, Raimo Toivio wrote: Bob, you are right: 1) My Wife 2) My Europa 3) My Tent. Thank you for congratulations! Could you please come and join us? 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