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1. 03:44 AM - 914 Fuel Pump (h&jeuropa)
2. 03:55 AM - Re: 914 Fuel Pump (rparigoris)
3. 04:20 AM - Re: 914 Fuel Pump (h&jeuropa)
4. 04:52 AM - Re: 914 Fuel Pump (Paul McAllister)
5. 04:52 AM - Re: 914 Fuel Pump (Paul McAllister)
6. 05:38 AM - Re: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
7. 07:02 AM - Re: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question (JEFF ROBERTS)
8. 03:55 PM - Re: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question (duanefamly@aol.com)
9. 04:12 PM - Re: Re: 914 Fuel Pump (Bud Yerly)
10. 04:52 PM - Use of Choke Starting the 914 (Tony Renshaw)
11. 06:44 PM - Re: Use of Choke Starting the 914 (Robert Borger)
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One of our Pierburg electric fuel pumps has failed. Other than Lockwood, has anyone
found a supplier in the US?
Thanks
Jim & Heather
N241BW
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Fuel Pump |
Hi Jim
Sorry can't help much with you finding a pump (perhaps Jason Parker has one?),
curious did pump burn out?
If it did burn out, or if is just not putting out enough volume, was or is the
prefilter the culprit?
http://www.europaowners.org/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=79928
Ron Parigoris
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Fuel Pump |
Ron,
The pump has electrically failed. An ohm meter across the terminals shows open.
The filter is perfectly clean.
Jim
Do Not Archive
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Fuel Pump |
I have a spare you can borrow.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:43 AM, h&jeuropa <butcher43@att.net> wrote:
>
> One of our Pierburg electric fuel pumps has failed. Other than Lockwood,
> has anyone found a supplier in the US?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim & Heather
> N241BW
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302957#302957
>
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Fuel Pump |
I have a spare you can borrow.
On Tue, Jun 29, 2010 at 5:43 AM, h&jeuropa <butcher43@att.net> wrote:
>
> One of our Pierburg electric fuel pumps has failed. Other than Lockwood,
> has anyone found a supplier in the US?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jim & Heather
> N241BW
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=302957#302957
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question |
Mike-
The instructions regarding the Locktite are with the prop extension.=C2-
I am away from my office but will be home Friday and can send you a copy.
=C2- Are you using the prop extension?=C2- That is the key.=C2- If yo
u are not, you may want to talk to Jim before you proceed.=C2- I believe
it is a requirement for this combination.=C2- Let me know if you need a c
opy of the instructios.
Jim Puglise A-283
----- Original Message -----
From: duanefamly@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:16:47 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
Jim,
Thank you for ringing my bell about instructions.....it took me awhile but
I finally remembered where I safely filed the paperwork. After reading the
instructions, my recollections were correct.....but there is no mention on
any Loctite......they just call for the use of lock nuts and "special" lock
washers. But there is plenty of room behind the hub, with the cowls off, t
o safety wire the six=C2-bolts for the hub mount half and then wire the s
ix bolts for the hub cover in the front. But in order to do this I will hav
e to order replacement bolts in order to use safety wire.
Thanks for all the assistance.
Mike Duane
-----Original Message-----
From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
Paul-
This combination uses a prop extension on the engine.=C2- It is almost im
possible to get your fingers down into it far enough to safety wire, so Jab
iru has a procedure to use a specific brand of Locktite and a specified tor
que.=C2- The procedure and setup are outlined in the documentation furnis
hed with the prop extension.
Jim Puglise A-283
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" < paul.the.aviator@gmail.com >
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:07:48 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
Hi Mike,
I am not familiar with the Jab / Sensenich combination, but I can say that
standard aviation practice is to safety wire the bolts.
Cheers,=C2- Paul
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Jim,
Thank you for ringing my bell about instructions.....it took me awhile but
I finally remembered where I safely filed the paperwork. After reading the
instructions, my recollections were correct.....but there is no mention on
any Loctite......they just call for the use of lock nuts and "special" lock
washers. But there is plenty of room behind the hub, with the cowls off, t
o safety wire the six=C2-bolts for the hub mount half and then wire the s
ix bolts for the hub cover in the front. But in order to do this I will hav
e to order replacement bolts in order to use safety wire.
Thanks for all the assistance.
Mike Duane
-----Original Message-----
From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
Paul-
This combination uses a prop extension on the engine.=C2- It is almost im
possible to get your fingers down into it far enough to safety wire, so Jab
iru has a procedure to use a specific brand of Locktite and a specified tor
que.=C2- The procedure and setup are outlined in the documentation furnis
hed with the prop extension.
Jim Puglise A-283
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" < paul.the.aviator@gmail.com >
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:07:48 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
Hi Mike,
I am not familiar with the Jab / Sensenich combination, but I can say that
standard aviation practice is to safety wire the bolts.
Cheers,=C2- Paul
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question |
Mike,
FYI: I have the same prop on my 912 S Europa. No safety wire no
loctite. I remember when I bought my prop there was an article in one
of the magazines about this prop and the ingenious lock washers they
use. I now have over 150 hours on mine and every time I check the
torque it's still perfect. I suppose the next time I have it off I'll
add some thread lock but if experience is the teacher it's probably
not needed.
Regards,
Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
On Jun 28, 2010, at 11:16 PM, DuaneFamly@aol.com wrote:
> Jim,
>
> Thank you for ringing my bell about instructions.....it took me
> awhile but I finally remembered where I safely filed the paperwork.
> After reading the instructions, my recollections were
> correct.....but there is no mention on any Loctite......they just
> call for the use of lock nuts and "special" lock washers. But there
> is plenty of room behind the hub, with the cowls off, to safety wire
> the six bolts for the hub mount half and then wire the six bolts for
> the hub cover in the front. But in order to do this I will have to
> order replacement bolts in order to use safety wire.
>
> Thanks for all the assistance.
>
> Mike Duane
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 7:43 pm
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
>
> Paul-
>
> This combination uses a prop extension on the engine. It is almost
> impossible to get your fingers down into it far enough to safety
> wire, so Jabiru has a procedure to use a specific brand of Locktite
> and a specified torque. The procedure and setup are outlined in the
> documentation furnished with the prop extension.
>
> Jim Puglise A-283
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:07:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
>
> Hi Mike,
>
> I am not familiar with the Jab / Sensenich combination, but I can
> say that standard aviation practice is to safety wire the bolts.
>
> Cheers, Paul
>
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| Subject: | Re: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question |
Good morning Jim,
Yes, I am using the prop extension. I swapped that out early on in the bui
ld. I remember safety wiring down inside was a bit of a reach. But I would
appreciate a copy of the instructions to make sure I not missed anything.
I also think that a call to Jim would cover all my concerns. This will al
so allow me to make initial contact with Jabiru since I purchased my engin
e and FWF kit from SunCoast in Florida and they are now dead and gone.
Thanks for all you help.
Mike
-----Original Message-----
From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
Sent: Tue, Jun 29, 2010 5:15 am
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
Mike-
The instructions regarding the Locktite are with the prop extension. I am
away from my office but will be home Friday and can send you a copy. Are
you using the prop extension? That is the key. If you are not, you may
want to talk to Jim before you proceed. I believe it is a requirement fo
r this combination. Let me know if you need a copy of the instructios.
Jim Puglise A-283
----- Original Message -----
From: duanefamly@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2010 12:16:47 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
Jim,
Thank you for ringing my bell about instructions.....it took me awhile but
I finally remembered where I safely filed the paperwork. After reading th
e instructions, my recollections were correct.....but there is no mention
on any Loctite......they just call for the use of lock nuts and "special"
lock washers. But there is plenty of room behind the hub, with the cowls
off, to safety wire the six bolts for the hub mount half and then wire th
e six bolts for the hub cover in the front. But in order to do this I will
have to order replacement bolts in order to use safety wire.
Thanks for all the assistance.
Mike Duane
-----Original Message-----
From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
Paul-
This combination uses a prop extension on the engine. It is almost imposs
ible to get your fingers down into it far enough to safety wire, so Jabiru
has a procedure to use a specific brand of Locktite and a specified torqu
e. The procedure and setup are outlined in the documentation furnished wi
th the prop extension.
Jim Puglise A-283
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:07:48 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
Hi Mike,
I am not familiar with the Jab / Sensenich combination, but I can say that
standard aviation practice is to safety wire the bolts.
Cheers, Paul
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Jim,
Thank you for ringing my bell about instructions.....it took me awhile but
I finally remembered where I safely filed the paperwork. After reading th
e instructions, my recollections were correct.....but there is no mention
on any Loctite......they just call for the use of lock nuts and "special"
lock washers. But there is plenty of room behind the hub, with the cowls
off, to safety wire the six bolts for the hub mount half and then wire th
e six bolts for the hub cover in the front. But in order to do this I will
have to order replacement bolts in order to use safety wire.
Thanks for all the assistance.
Mike Duane
-----Original Message-----
From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
Sent: Mon, Jun 28, 2010 7:43 pm
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
Paul-
This combination uses a prop extension on the engine. It is almost imposs
ible to get your fingers down into it far enough to safety wire, so Jabiru
has a procedure to use a specific brand of Locktite and a specified torqu
e. The procedure and setup are outlined in the documentation furnished wi
th the prop extension.
Jim Puglise A-283
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul McAllister" <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2010 9:07:48 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Prop Question
Hi Mike,
I am not familiar with the Jab / Sensenich combination, but I can say that
standard aviation practice is to safety wire the bolts.
Cheers, Paul
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| Subject: | Re: 914 Fuel Pump |
Jim,
Just had to replace mine. Airwolf, and Lockwood were the same price I
got mine as a dealer for $364 if memory serves. I think it has platinum
plating or something.
By the way, your aluminum tape between the oil and glycol coolers works
terrific. Glue is sticking well now for over a month and is a huge time
saver. Good idea.
Best to Heather and Buddy...
Bud
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Subject: Europa-List: Re: 914 Fuel Pump
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Ron,
The pump has electrically failed. An ohm meter across the terminals
shows open. The filter is perfectly clean.
Jim
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| Subject: | Use of Choke Starting the 914 |
Gidday,
I am trying to work out whether my choke should be near the throttle on the top
of the tunnel, with the added advantage of keeping cables all running together,
or whether there might be some argument in favour of putting it on the LHS
of the panel, near the ignition key? I am concerned that the bends required for
the bowden cable might be problematic on the LHS and in behind the panel, but
I was thinking to be able to operate it with my left hand whilst starting might
be a good idea. The problem is, I don't know how to start the 914, whether
there is any need to play with the choke, or just set and forget. So, has anyone
put it on the panel on the LHS, or is this just a dumb idea?
Reg
Tony Renshaw
Sydney Aussie
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| Subject: | Re: Use of Choke Starting the 914 |
Tony,
I have a 914. I find that you need the "Choke" (actually a starting carb) whenever
you cold start the engine. Master on, main fuel pump on, Pull full choke,
throttle completely closed, punch the starter and in a couple blades it's running.
Then, as the engine warms up and speeds up, you slowly ease the "Choke"
in to maintain idle between 1800 and 2000 RPM. By the time it's warm, the
"Choke" is off and you are ready to go.
I have my choke just below the throttle since it is a throttle of sorts operating
the starting carb. It's handy there and easy to route the control cables.
I don't think I'd want the "Choke" over near the starter on the panel, but you
may find things work better for you that way.
Check six,
Bob Borger
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Europa XS, Short Wing, Intercooled Rotax 914
rlborger@mac.com
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Jun 29, 2010, at 6:53 PM, Tony Renshaw wrote:
>
> Gidday,
> I am trying to work out whether my choke should be near the throttle on the top
of the tunnel, with the added advantage of keeping cables all running together,
or whether there might be some argument in favour of putting it on the LHS
of the panel, near the ignition key? I am concerned that the bends required
for the bowden cable might be problematic on the LHS and in behind the panel,
but I was thinking to be able to operate it with my left hand whilst starting
might be a good idea. The problem is, I don't know how to start the 914, whether
there is any need to play with the choke, or just set and forget. So, has anyone
put it on the panel on the LHS, or is this just a dumb idea?
> Reg
> Tony Renshaw
> Sydney Aussie
>
>
>
>
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