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1. 02:59 AM - FW: Cooling issues, once again! (G-IANI)
2. 03:23 AM - Re: Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine (G-IANI)
3. 06:54 PM - Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine (varoum55)
4. 07:10 PM - Re: Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine (Rob Housman)
5. 07:23 PM - Re: Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine (JEFF ROBERTS)
6. 09:20 PM - Re: Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine (Fred Klein)
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| Subject: | Cooling issues, once again! |
If anyone is interested in the Tropical Chin inlet you will find it on the
LAA site, link below
http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/engineering/Standard%20Mods/europa
.html
It is at the bottom of the page and is numbered SM11362.
I did the documentation if anyone wants more details.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine |
Marc
I am writing this from a UK perspective and things may be different where
you are.
David Stanbridge (owner of Europa) is interested in the UL260i engine but it
is not likely to be followed up in the foreseeable future. The full cost of
clearing a new engine will run to tens of thousands of (GB)pounds and
probably take at least a year.
To explain this further:-
1) you are going to need a new engine mount, which will need proper stress
calculation and consideration of weight and balance.
2) you will need a new cowl and this will need testing to demonstrate that
the cooling is effective.
3) you will need a suitable prop. This is more difficult than you may think
due to resonance problems and other issues.
To give an examples, in 1997 Europa did a lot of work on a BMW engine. This
was dropped when torsional vibration problems could not be overcome.
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine |
Thanks Ian,
Here is a link in French about the engine. For those not reading French. The
fuel consumption is 12 liters per hour compare to a Rotax at 16 liters per hour.
Also they will have a turbo version with 30HP more for a 6 kilos increase.
For those reading French: http://www.ulpower.com/news/press/links/14.pdf
There is a FWF installation available in the USA for the CH750 and CH601/650. Check the link: http://www.flywithgus.net/FirewallForwardKits.html
Please a FWF for the Europa XS :))
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304535#304535
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine |
...and for those reading English (apparently with an IP address in an
English speaking country) go to http://www.ulpower.com/
Best regards,
Rob Housman
Irvine, CA
Europa XS Tri-Gear
A070
Airframe complete
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of varoum55
Sent: Sunday, July 11, 2010 6:53 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine
Thanks Ian,
Here is a link in French about the engine. For those not reading French.
The fuel consumption is 12 liters per hour compare to a Rotax at 16 liters
per hour. Also they will have a turbo version with 30HP more for a 6 kilos
increase.
For those reading French: http://www.ulpower.com/news/press/links/14.pdf
There is a FWF installation available in the USA for the CH750 and
CH601/650. Check the link:
http://www.flywithgus.net/FirewallForwardKits.html
Please a FWF for the Europa XS :))
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304535#304535
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine |
Guys,
I remember reading on one of the post or talking to someone about it.
If you contact Gus at the link below I believe he can tell you, but
someone has purchased one of the UL engines and is getting ready to
put it in his Europa. I believe he was close to the end stage on that
endeavor. Not sure though.
Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
On Jul 11, 2010, at 8:52 PM, varoum55 wrote:
>
> Thanks Ian,
>
> Here is a link in French about the engine. For those not reading
> French. The fuel consumption is 12 liters per hour compare to a
> Rotax at 16 liters per hour. Also they will have a turbo version
> with 30HP more for a 6 kilos increase.
>
> For those reading French: http://www.ulpower.com/news/press/links/14.pdf
>
> There is a FWF installation available in the USA for the CH750 and
> CH601/650. Check the link: http://www.flywithgus.net/FirewallForwardKits.html
>
> Please a FWF for the Europa XS :))
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304535#304535
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine |
On Jul 11, 2010, at 7:18 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
> I remember reading on one of the post or talking to someone about
> it. If you contact Gus at the link below I believe he can tell you,
> but someone has purchased one of the UL engines and is getting ready
> to put it in his Europa. I believe he was close to the end stage on
> that endeavor. Not sure though.
Jeff/All,
That would be Vaugn Teegarden...n914va@bvunet.net
Fred
BTW, if I were looking for an engine today, I would take a serious
look at Eggenfelner's new derivative of the Honda Fit engine, though
I'm not crazy about his radiator set up nor it's implications for the
cowl...see:
http://www.vikingaircraftengines.com/products/Products.html
(includes two youtube videos)
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