---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 07/30/10: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:26 AM - Re: Voltage reading of 25V (G-IANI) 2. 05:18 AM - Re: Voltage reading of 25V (Karl Heindl) 3. 06:09 AM - Re: EFIS Installation (John Wighton) 4. 09:50 AM - Lydeway Annual Fly-in/BBQ (G-IANI) 5. 09:54 AM - Fuel lines (Richard Tobin) 6. 10:30 AM - Fuel system bits and bobs (RichardTobin) 7. 10:32 AM - lost email? (Fred Klein) 8. 11:28 AM - SL30 Installation help (John Wighton) 9. 12:03 PM - Re: SL30 Installation help (Robert Borger) 10. 03:47 PM - Collecting my Europa Fuselage (Rick Sivier) 11. 09:05 PM - Re: Collecting my Europa Fuselage (Fred Klein) 12. 11:35 PM - Re: Collecting my Europa Fuselage (Greg Fuchs) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:26:00 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Voltage reading of 25V Karl I have the Grand Rapids and have had a similar problem with some very strange readings. The symptoms were that half the readings produced by the unit were OK but the other half were all over the place. I contacted Grand Rapids and they were helpful but could not offer a particular explanation. After a lot of investigation, including pulling out the entire unit, I found that all it was a broken cylinder head temp probe. Once this was disconnected everything else went back to normal. With the probe replaced everything was OK. So my recommendation is to disconnect the sensors one at a time until you find the duff one Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours Europa Club Mods Specialist e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:18:28 AM PST US From: Karl Heindl Subject: RE: Europa-List: Voltage reading of 25V Thanks Ian=2C I'll do that as well. I already removed the ch probe=2C becau se the wire was corroded=2C repaired the wire=2C but it didn't change anyth ing. My strongest lead is the fact that this only happens when the engine is run ning. Karl From: g-iani@ntlworld.com Subject: RE: Europa-List: Voltage reading of 25V Karl I have the Grand Rapids and have had a similar problem with some very stran ge readings. The symptoms were that half the readings produced by the unit were OK but the other half were all over the place. I contacted Grand Rapids and they were helpful but could not offer a partic ular explanation. After a lot of investigation=2C including pulling out th e entire unit=2C I found that all it was a broken cylinder head temp probe. Once this was disconnected everything else went back to normal. With the probe replaced everything was OK. So my recommendation is to disconnect the sensors one at a time until you f ind the duff one Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear=2C 300hours Europa Club Mods Specialist e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:09:47 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: EFIS Installation From: "John Wighton" Hi, saw your post, try Markcs (at) btinternet.com he runs the LAA. ET avionics course and is very helpful, he just started a business so his availability should be good. He is helping with swop out of some equipment in my Europa G-IPOD. Regards John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306798#306798 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:50:38 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: Europa-List: Lydeway Annual Fly-in/BBQ LYDEWAY ANNUAL FLY-IN /BBQ This event will be held on Saturday 28th August with Sunday 29th August as a backup day in case of bad weather. Further details are available on our new website http://sites.google.com/site/lydewayfield/ The number of places will be limited to 15 aircraft. If you are interested in attending this event please reply to this email without delay to book your slot. The information I would like from you at this stage is your a/c type and whether you are available either day or just one of the two days. Regards Nigel Charles Forward by Ian Rickard ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:54:12 AM PST US From: Richard Tobin Subject: Europa-List: Fuel lines Dear All, Following a strong smell of fuel in the cockpit my co-owner and I have recently discovered a leak between a union (FPA904/A) and the selector valve (6749). In the course of tracking down this leak we discovered a lot of the fuel hose was in bad shape due to fuel exposure and chafing. We have decided to replace the selector and its unions along with most of the fuel hose in and around the cockpit. We didn't build the aircraft and so are quite new to all this... Our questions, 1 Does the fuel selector part No 6749 click? I noticed in Aircraft Spruce and Speciality a very similar selector to 6749 does, but in the description of 6749 no mention is made of this. The selector we have fitted clicks and so we are keen to keep it the same. 2 When tightening the unions into the selector should any sealing compound be used? The build manual makes no mention of this but given the situation we find ourselves in now we are keen to get this right! Is it because brass is soft enough to seal well? 3 Replacement fuel hose. I have been searching and reading through many postings on this list for a recommendation on the hose to use. We would like to use a hose that reduces as much as possible the petrol smell and gives as long a service life as possible. I have read gates R9 hose is good but can`t find a european supplier. Also a recommendation for the clips to use would be welcome. In our existing system jubilee clips have been used and in a couple of places the band that has passed through the worm drive has cut into nearby hose. The Aircraft is LAA registered. Many thanks Richard G-OSJN XS 914 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:52 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Fuel system bits and bobs From: "RichardTobin" Dear All, Following a strong smell of fuel in the cockpit my co-owner and I have recently discovered a leak between a union (FPA904/A) and the selector valve (6749). In the course of tracking down this leak we discovered a lot of the fuel hose was in bad shape due to fuel exposure and chafing. We have decided to replace the selector and its unions along with most of the fuel hose in and around the cockpit. We didn't build the aircraft and so are quite new to all this... Our questions, 1 Does the fuel selector part No 6749 click? I noticed in Aircraft Spruce and Speciality a very similar selector to 6749 does, but in the description of 6749 no mention is made of this. The selector we have fitted clicks and so we are keen to keep it the same. 2 When tightening the unions into the selector should any sealing compound be used? The build manual makes no mention of this but given the situation we find ourselves in now we are keen to get this right! Is it because brass is soft enough to seal well? 3 Replacement fuel hose. I have been searching and reading through many postings on this list for a recommendation on the hose to use. We would like to use a hose that reduces as much as possible the petrol smell and gives as long a service life as possible. I have read gates R9 hose is good but can`t find a European supplier. Also a recommendation for the clips to use would be welcome. In our existing system jubilee clips have been used and in a couple of places the band that has passed through the worm drive has cut into nearby hose. The Aircraft is LAA registered. Many thanks Richard G-OSJN XS 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306825#306825 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:32:06 AM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Europa-List: lost email? Could you confirm receipt of my email of 27 July, sent off-list?...or has it perhaps been trapped in a spam filter? Fred do not archive ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 11:28:00 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: SL30 Installation help From: "John Wighton" Hell everyone, I am installing a Garmin SL30 into G-IPOD and wish to know the best place for the NAV antenna. It's a tri-gear and l have the standard fin mounted COMM antenna. Many thanks, John Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306833#306833 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:03:40 PM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Re: Europa-List: SL30 Installation help John, I put my Bob Archer Nav antenna against the roof behind the baggage bay. There are pics on my build site. I can provide more info after I get home from KOSH if you are interested. Bob Borger Sent from my iPhone On Jul 30, 2010, at 13:26, John Wighton wrote: > > Hell everyone, > I am installing a Garmin SL30 into G-IPOD and wish to know the best place for the NAV antenna. It's a tri-gear and l have the standard fin mounted COMM antenna. > > Many thanks, > John > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=306833#306833 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:47:46 PM PST US From: "Rick Sivier" Subject: Europa-List: Collecting my Europa Fuselage My fuselage kit is ready for collection from the factory (at last!) and I was planning to hire a van to go and get it. However, I'm not sure if it will fit any van that is readily available for hire. Karen at the factory reckoned that the fuselage is around 16 feet long, which would be just a bit too long for a long-wheelbase Transit-type van. Does anyone have any recommendations for suitable vehicles? Many thanks Rick ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:05:08 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Collecting my Europa Fuselage On Jul 30, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Rick Sivier wrote: > My fuselage kit is ready for collection from the factory (at last!) > Does anyone have any recommendations for suitable vehicles? Ah Rick...brings back memories...in my case to rendevouz w/ 3 other builders to unload a container. A pick up truck worked for me, Good luck...and Happy Building! Fred ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 11:35:05 PM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Collecting my Europa Fuselage Ahhh yes....the good ol days of kit collection. Wouldn't it be nice to go back to that time? ........NOT! I rented a large moving van for the journey. I can't remember its exact length, somewhere around 30 feet? G Fuchs _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein Sent: Friday, July 30, 2010 9:04 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Collecting my Europa Fuselage On Jul 30, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Rick Sivier wrote: My fuselage kit is ready for collection from the factory (at last!) Does anyone have any recommendations for suitable vehicles? Ah Rick...brings back memories...in my case to rendevouz w/ 3 other builders to unload a container. A pick up truck worked for me, Good luck...and Happy Building! 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