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1. 01:30 AM - Re: Cold start problems (Robert C Harrison)
2. 03:29 AM - Re: Cold start problems (Lisbet og Gert Dalgaard)
3. 04:12 AM - Re: Cold start problems (LAURENS yannick)
4. 07:33 AM - Re: Cold start problems (Karl Heindl)
5. 08:55 AM - Re: Cold start problems (Paul McAllister)
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| Subject: | Cold start problems |
Hi! Karl
I'm no particular authority but all the Rotax documentation I've seen is to
start with the throttle completely shut. This ensures the carbs are on the
correct settings for the start mode. Mine will not start or even try until I
pull the throttle to absolutely Zero. If it won't start then probably the
idle jets need resetting but where you commence doing that will need you to
research the procedure.
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karl Heindl
Sent: 14 August 2010 01:35
Subject: Europa-List: Cold start problems
In addition to my other problems my engine now won't start with the choke
only. I have to make repeated attempts, until eventually I get it going with
no choke and a little throttle.
My throttle minimum idle position is at around 1300rpm. I assume it has
something to do with the carbs, but they were serviced by a Rotax agent not
very long ago. Has anyone got any ideas where I should look ? I am able to
start on one magneto for a softer start. This is not my year, but at least
the glider wings have been up a few times.
Karl
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| Subject: | Re: Cold start problems |
Hi Karl
Be sure that your battery have enough power!
Even a miner drop in battery-capacity will result in starting problems.
The battery must be in good condition and be well charged.
Regards Gert / OY-GDS / Mono / 914
Den 14/08/2010 kl. 10.27 skrev Robert C Harrison:
> Hi! Karl
> I=92m no particular authority but all the Rotax documentation I=92ve
seen is to start with the throttle completely shut. This ensures the
carbs are on the correct settings for the start mode. Mine will not
start or even try until I pull the throttle to absolutely Zero. If it
won=92t start then probably the idle jets need resetting but where you
commence doing that will need you to research the procedure.
> Regards
> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karl Heindl
> Sent: 14 August 2010 01:35
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Cold start problems
>
>
> In addition to my other problems my engine now won't start with the
choke only. I have to make repeated attempts, until eventually I get it
going with no choke and a little throttle.
> My throttle minimum idle position is at around 1300rpm. I assume it
has something to do with the carbs, but they were serviced by a Rotax
agent not very long ago. Has anyone got any ideas where I should look ?
I am able to start on one magneto for a softer start. This is not my
year, but at least the glider wings have been up a few times.
>
> Karl
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| Subject: | Re: Cold start problems |
I am agree with this: check first the battery. I had the same problem,
recharging the battery didn't solve the pb, and no more pb with a new
"odyssey" battery
regards
yannick LAURENS
F PSCZ mono 912
Le 14 ao=FBt 10 =E0 12:25, Lisbet og Gert Dalgaard a =E9crit :
> Hi Karl
> Be sure that your battery have enough power!
> Even a miner drop in battery-capacity will result in starting
> problems.
> The battery must be in good condition and be well charged.
> Regards Gert / OY-GDS / Mono / 914
>
>
> Den 14/08/2010 kl. 10.27 skrev Robert C Harrison:
>
>> Hi! Karl
>> I=92m no particular authority but all the Rotax documentation I=92ve
>> seen is to start with the throttle completely shut. This ensures
>> the carbs are on the correct settings for the start mode. Mine will
>> not start or even try until I pull the throttle to absolutely Zero.
>> If it won=92t start then probably the idle jets need resetting but
>> where you commence doing that will need you to research the
>> procedure.
>> Regards
>> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>>
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>> ] On Behalf Of Karl Heindl
>> Sent: 14 August 2010 01:35
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Europa-List: Cold start problems
>>
>>
>> In addition to my other problems my engine now won't start with the
>> choke only. I have to make repeated attempts, until eventually I
>> get it going with no choke and a little throttle.
>> My throttle minimum idle position is at around 1300rpm. I assume it
>> has something to do with the carbs, but they were serviced by a
>> Rotax agent not very long ago. Has anyone got any ideas where I
>> should look ? I am able to start on one magneto for a softer start.
>> This is not my year, but at least the glider wings have been up a
>> few times.
>>
>> Karl
>
>
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| Subject: | Cold start problems |
Thank you all for the input. My battery is an Odyssey=2C and I am reading 1
2.5V. It turns the prop at a rapid rate=2C and there is some ignition=2C bu
t not enough to keep it going.I will try try to jump start with my car righ
t from the beginning to eliminate or confirm a battery problem. Re-starting
the warm engine is instantaneous.My throttle is at idle.
Karl
From: yck.laurens@gmail.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Cold start problems
I am agree with this: check first the battery. I had the same problem=2C re
charging the battery didn't solve the pb=2C and no more pb with a new "odys
sey" batteryregardsyannick LAURENSF PSCZ mono 912
Le 14 ao=FBt 10 =E0 12:25=2C Lisbet og Gert Dalgaard a =E9crit :Hi KarlBe s
ure that your battery have enough power! Even a miner drop in battery-capac
ity will result in starting problems. The battery must be in good condition
and be well charged.Regards Gert / OY-GDS / Mono / 914
Den 14/08/2010 kl. 10.27 skrev Robert C Harrison:Hi! KarlI=92m no particula
r authority but all the Rotax documentation I=92ve seen is to start with th
e throttle completely shut. This ensures the carbs are on the correct setti
ngs for the start mode. Mine will not start or even try until I pull the th
rottle to absolutely Zero. If it won=92t start then probably the idle jets
need resetting but where you commence doing that will need you to research
the procedure.RegardsBob Harrison G-PTAG From: owner-europa-list-server@mat
ronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kar
l Heindl
Sent: 14 August 2010 01:35
Subject: Europa-List: Cold start problems
In addition to my other problems my engine now won't start with the choke o
nly. I have to make repeated attempts=2C until eventually I get it going wi
th no choke and a little throttle.My throttle minimum idle position is at a
round 1300rpm. I assume it has something to do with the carbs=2C but they w
ere serviced by a Rotax agent not very long ago. Has anyone got any ideas w
here I should look ? I am able to start on one magneto for a softer start.
This is not my year=2C but at least the glider wings have been up a few tim
es. Karl
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| Subject: | Re: Cold start problems |
Hi Karl,
I know it sounds obvious, but my 914 is 'fussy' about cold starting if the
plugs are not correctly gapped and clean.
Paul
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