Europa-List Digest Archive

Tue 08/17/10


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 04:34 AM - Re: Exhaust port bolts for 914 (Moore, Dave)
     2. 04:51 AM - Hose Replacement (h&jeuropa)
     3. 05:26 AM - Re: Stall spin characteristics (Christoph Both)
     4. 05:49 AM - Re: Hose Replacement (Kevin Challis)
     5. 06:30 AM - Re: Hose Replacement (rampil)
     6. 07:24 AM - Re: Exhaust port bolts for 914 (Paul McAllister)
     7. 10:28 AM - Re: Stall spin characteristics (rparigoris)
     8. 10:35 AM - Re: Exhaust port bolts for 914 (rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us)
     9. 02:15 PM - Re: Hose Replacement (david miller)
    10. 02:50 PM - Fw: Rough River Up-date #7 (JEFF ROBERTS)
    11. 04:05 PM - Re: Hose Replacement (Karl Heindl)
    12. 05:07 PM - Re: Fw: Rough River Up-date #7 (Fred Klein)
    13. 05:42 PM - Re: Fw: Rough River Up-date #7 (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
    14. 07:49 PM - Re: Exhaust port bolts for 914 (Michael Grass)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:34:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Exhaust port bolts for 914
    From: "Moore, Dave" <Dave.Moore@lr.org>
    Michael, Just a question. Are you sure that the thread of the EGT ports in the 914 exhaust is M8..? I have a recollection that mine are an AN thread. I may be wrong. Regards, Dave Dave Moore Aberdeen AB11 5DX


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    Time: 04:51:58 AM PST US
    Subject: Hose Replacement
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    Its been five years on our 914 so we're looking at changing hoses. We'd like suggestions from those that have done this on how to do it efficiently and without making a huge mess. Access to the water pump hoses seems difficult with the exhaust system in place (muffler lies under the engine). Jim & Heather Europa XS 914 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309084#309084


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    Time: 05:26:12 AM PST US
    From: Christoph Both <christoph.both@acadiau.ca>
    Subject: Stall spin characteristics
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    Time: 05:49:14 AM PST US
    From: Kevin Challis <kevinmarie@blueyonder.co.uk>
    Subject: Re: Hose Replacement
    I removed the exhaust and replaced the oil hoses at the same time. I used silcon hoses for the water hoses its only been 11 months but so far they seem very good no weeps at all. Kevin Challis On 17 Aug 2010, at 12:51, "h&jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net> wrote: > > Its been five years on our 914 so we're looking at changing hoses. > We'd like suggestions from those that have done this on how to do it > efficiently and without making a huge mess. Access to the water pump > hoses seems difficult with the exhaust system in place (muffler lies > under the engine). > > Jim & Heather > Europa XS 914 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309084#309084 > >


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    Time: 06:30:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Hose Replacement
    From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
    Hi Jim, Definitely drop the muffler out! That will give you a clean shot at the four radiator hoses. It will also allow a close inspection of the radiator and the radiator springs. -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309103#309103


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    Time: 07:24:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Exhaust port bolts for 914
    From: Paul McAllister <paul.the.aviator@gmail.com>
    Hi Alll, I neglected to mention that I was looking for stainless steel bolts. My concern is that if I used steel bolts that they would seize and be impossible to remove. Interestingly enough the bolt is listed in the parts catalog but without a part number.. go figure Paul On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 12:59 AM, Michael Grass <m.grass@comcast.net> wrote: > Paul, > > Have you considered just to get the 20 mm version and cut it down to 6mm? > The thread on the 20mm should go up to the shoulder of the head and the > application is uncritical anyway. >


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    Time: 10:28:17 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Stall spin characteristics
    From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
    Hi Christoph I have uploaded wing profiles stored in an album in my gallery: http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=78738 Ron Parigoris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309137#309137


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    Time: 10:35:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Exhaust port bolts for 914
    From: rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us
    Hi Paul Are you trying to obtain stainless because your studs did in fact sieze? Be careful studs can take heat and be strong enough, you may want to check with Lockwood? Have a look here: http://www.totallystainless.com/ Ron Parigoris


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    Time: 02:15:42 PM PST US
    From: david miller <loboloda@execulink.com>
    Subject: Re: Hose Replacement
    Hi Jim & Heather, I'd proceed on the basis that you will make a huge mess as soon as you unhook the coolant hose. A kid's wading pool or similar would be useful for catching the fluid, which in my experience goes everywhere that you don't have a bucket placed ! Dave do not archive On 17-Aug-10, at 7:51 AM, h&amp;jeuropa wrote: > > Its been five years on our 914 so we're looking at changing hoses. > We'd like suggestions from those that have done this on how to do > it efficiently and without making a huge mess. Access to the water > pump hoses seems difficult with the exhaust system in place > (muffler lies under the engine). > > Jim & Heather > Europa XS 914 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309084#309084 > >


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    Time: 02:50:13 PM PST US
    From: JEFF ROBERTS <Jeff@rmmm.net>
    Subject: Fwd: Rough River Up-date #7
    Hi All, Im resending everyone this list to hopefully excite you about the up and coming Europa Fly-in on September 17th 18th at The Rough River state park in KY. The hotel has just sent me a list of everyone registered for those nights and I can't help but notice only about half on the list below have registered. I would encourage you, if you haven't to do so as soon as possible. They have no more rooms but they do have cabins. This should be the largest gathering of Europa's ever in the USA. If you need some more info feel free to e-mail me off list. If your name is not on the below list but you are coming let us know and we'll get you on. Looking forward to seeing you all next month. Best Regards, Jeff Roberts. N128LJ Gold Rush. > > > Jeff & Mary Buhrans - N55XS Flying Baby Blue in. Cell 225-773-9671 > Jeff & Karen Roberts - N128LJ Gold Rush Flying In. Cell 615-406-8651 > Troy & Donna Maynor - Flying his brand new Mono Classic ;o).. > Jim & Lynne Puglise - Driving the air conditioned control tower, > beer bar, meeting place/motor home. ;o) > Fred Kline.... All the way from Orcas Island, WA > John & Susan Lawton - N245E Flying his Jab powered Europa > Bob & Maureen Borger N914XL Flying In from Texas in... Little Dragon > Lady. > Paul McAllister... N378PJ Back in the country and getting new cowl > mods ready. > Jim & Heather Butcher - Flying in > Bud Yearly - N12AY Flying in... Yea Bud! > Jim Brown - N398JB - AKA JimBob. > John Wigney - Flying in! > Bob Lindsay - Flying in N77EU Turbo Toy from Coronado California. > Cell 619-917-0953 > > > USA ANNUAL ROUGH RIVER KY FLY-IN > > Gold Rush On final at Rough River.


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    Time: 04:05:35 PM PST US
    From: Karl Heindl <kheindl@msn.com>
    Subject: Hose Replacement
    Jim=2C You can avoid the mess by syphoning the coolant. Push a small plastic tube all the way down to the radiator for this. Karl > From: loboloda@execulink.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Hose Replacement > Date: Tue=2C 17 Aug 2010 17:25:04 -0400 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > > > Hi Jim & Heather=2C > > I'd proceed on the basis that you will make a huge mess as soon as > you unhook the coolant hose. > A kid's wading pool or similar would be useful for catching the > fluid=2C which in my experience goes everywhere that you don't have a > bucket placed ! > > Dave > > do not archive > On 17-Aug-10=2C at 7:51 AM=2C h&amp=3Bjeuropa wrote: > > > > > > Its been five years on our 914 so we're looking at changing hoses. > > We'd like suggestions from those that have done this on how to do > > it efficiently and without making a huge mess. Access to the water > > pump hoses seems difficult with the exhaust system in place > > (muffler lies under the engine). > > > > Jim & Heather > > Europa XS 914 > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309084#309084 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 05:07:11 PM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Rough River Up-date #7
    On Aug 17, 2010, at 2:45 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote: > The hotel has just sent me a list of everyone registered for those > nights and I can't help but notice only about half on the list below > have registered. I would encourage you, if you haven't to do so as > soon as possible. They have no more rooms but they do have cabins. Thanks for the nudge Jeff...I'm one of those who've signed up, will be attending, and procrastinated on booking a room. Is there anyone out there who would like to share a cabin? Fred


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    Time: 05:42:35 PM PST US
    From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Fwd: Rough River Up-date #7
    Lynne and I will be there but won't show up in the reservations.=C2- We a re bringing our motor home.=C2- We have reservations but it is probably a different list than the rooms. Was hoping to fly in but it looks like the plane will be at the painter's. Jim Puglise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2010 8:04:57 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fwd: Rough River Up-date #7 On Aug 17, 2010, at 2:45 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote: > =C2-The hotel has just sent me a list of everyone registered for those =C2- > nights and I can't help but notice only about half on the list below =C2 - > have registered. I would encourage you, if you haven't =C2-to do so as =C2- > soon as possible. They have no more rooms but they do have cabins. Thanks for the nudge Jeff...I'm one of those who've signed up, will be =C2 - attending, and procrastinated on booking a room. Is there anyone out =C2- there who would like to share a cabin? Fred =========== =========== MS - =========== e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. ===========


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    From: "Michael Grass" <m.grass@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Exhaust port bolts for 914
    Re: Europa-List: Exhaust port bolts for 914Dave, Might be close but not quite right. an AN5 bolt has a diameter of 5/16th inch = 7.93mm and 24 tracks per inch = 1.058mm pitch. The smaller diameter and the little difference in pitch will allow an AN5 bolt to go into an M8 with the fine threaded pitch of 1mm without problems for a small number of turns before it gets to snug. However, the manual calls for M8 * 6mm with fine threaded pitch of 1 mm ----- Original Message ----- From: Moore, Dave To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: 2010-08-17 07:29 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Exhaust port bolts for 914 Michael, Just a question. Are you sure that the thread of the EGT ports in the 914 exhaust is M8..? I have a recollection that mine are an AN thread. I may be wrong. Regards, Dave Dave Moore Aberdeen AB11 5DX




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