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1. 01:12 AM - Re: LAST OF THE SUMMER WINE - WITH TEXEL (zwakie)
2. 01:48 AM - Re: tail wheel mod (David Joyce)
3. 02:36 AM - Re: Re: LAST OF THE SUMMER WINE - WITH TEXEL (Bob Hitchcock)
4. 04:34 AM - Re: tail wheel mod (G-IANI)
5. 04:41 AM - Engine Selection Rotax 914? (janmarker)
6. 05:34 AM - Re: Engine Selection Rotax 914? (Karl Heindl)
7. 07:48 AM - Re: Engine Selection Rotax 914? (Garry Stout)
8. 08:45 AM - Re: Engine Selection Rotax 914? (Paul McAllister)
9. 09:00 AM - Re: Engine Selection Rotax 914? (Ken Carpenter)
10. 10:54 AM - Re: Engine Selection Rotax 914? (Jim Brown)
11. 11:33 AM - Re: tail wheel mod (Europa)
12. 11:51 AM - Re: LAST OF THE SUMMER WINE - WITH TEXEL (houlihan tim)
13. 12:55 PM - Re: Engine Selection Rotax 914? (Kevin Klinefelter)
14. 10:19 PM - Re: Engine Selection Rotax 914? (Ralph K. Hallett III)
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| Subject: | Re: LAST OF THE SUMMER WINE - WITH TEXEL |
Hi Bob, looking forward to see you again!
Direct link to the Texel Fly-In website: http://www.flyin.nl
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Marcel
(Classic Tri-Gear PH-MZW - formerly G-BWON)
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| Subject: | Re: tail wheel mod |
Paul, My original instructions for the mod list it as PFA mod 10251 for the
Classic and 10371 for the XS. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ( with Singleton
mod 10371!)
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From: <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 3:43 PM
Subject: Europa-List: tail wheel mod
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> Does anyone have a LAA (PFA) mod number for the singleton tail wheel mod
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| Subject: | Re: LAST OF THE SUMMER WINE - WITH TEXEL |
Brilliant!
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From: "zwakie" <mz@cariama.nl>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 9:08 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: LAST OF THE SUMMER WINE - WITH TEXEL
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> Hi Bob, looking forward to see you again!
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> Direct link to the Texel Fly-In website: http://www.flyin.nl
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Paul
Are you working on a Classic or an XS? Can you tell me exactly what you are
fitting? Graham Singleton's Mods are for the push rod rudder drive not the
tail wheel. Moving the Classic tail wheel aft is factory Mod. 43. Mod 43
also uses the XS cable rudder drive.
This area is at present a bit untidy but let me try and explain:-
1) LAA have reclassified mods from "this aircraft only", "All of type" and
"Standard" to "Prototype", "Repeat" and "Standard". I am not yet sure what
effect this is intended to have.
2) I have never had a copy PFA 10251. It was not in the "All of type list"
so probably should not have been used by anyone other than the original
applicant. As far as I know, this provided the parts to retain the push rod
rudder drive for Classic Mono when used with Mod 43.
3) Mod 10371 (I have a copy) was "All of type" so I think you can use it as
a "Repeat" mod. This provided the parts for an XS (Mono) to retain the push
rod rudder drive. As an XS it would already have the rear mounted tail
wheel.
4) Mod 11414 is a Standard mod (written by me) which provides parts to fit
the push rod rudder drive to an XS Trigear.
5) Europa are adopting the push rod rudder drive and it has been announced
as Mod 77. This covers the mono and the Trigear. At this moment I have
supplied a draft copy of the Mod documentation to Europa and I am waiting
for them to clear up some inconsistencies in the parts drawings.
If I can be of further help give me a call on 01483 714096
Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com
-----Original Message-----
Does anyone have a LAA (PFA) mod number for the singleton tail wheel mod
please?
Regards Paul
-----Original Message-----
Paul, My original instructions for the mod list it as PFA mod 10251 for the
Classic and 10371 for the XS. Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ( with Singleton
mod 10371!)
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| Subject: | Engine Selection Rotax 914? |
I am at the point in the build of my Europa XS Monowheel where I need to make a
decision on engine selection. I have always considered the 914 the logical choice
for the high density altitude airstrips where I fly at New Mexico, Utah
and Colorado. Typical summer time density altitudes are at 7000 to 9000 ft in
the morning and typical cruising altitudes are 9500 to 12500 MSL. I believe
the 914 will provide the performance margin needed in this environment. However,
I am concerned that the 914 may have reliability or maintenance issues that
would result in frequent maintenance actions or failure of components (TCU, turbo,
boost pumps, etc) that would make life miserable for long cross country
flights. I dont have specific data that would suggest that the 914 has significant
reliability or maintenance issues. I have read an account of an Europa
owner that changed out his 914 for a 912S due to engine issues. I have over 400
hours of mostly trouble free operations with the Rotax 912S in my RANS S-18.
I would install the 914 in my Europa in a heartbeat if I could expect similar
reliability that I have experienced with the 912S. For those operating the
Rotax 914, I would very much appreciate input on your operational experience
with the 914. Should I be concerned about maintenance or reliability with the
914?
Mike Marker
Europa A197
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Mike Marker
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| Subject: | Engine Selection Rotax 914? |
Hi Mike=2C
The 914 would appear to be the ideal choice just for performance reasons. I
can't talk about reliability=2C as I also have the 912s. I have flown stra
ight across the American and the Canadian Rockies and have not found that t
o be a problem. In New Mexico I landed at Santa Fe. The nice thing about al
l Rocky Mountain airports is the fact that their runways are very long=2C i
.e. 7000 and 8000 feet seem pretty common=2C as you well know. You have to
ask yourself if the very high purchase cost is really worth the improved r.
o.c. and better performance at the really high altitudes.
Karl
> Subject: Europa-List: Engine Selection Rotax 914?
> From: mjwings@msn.com
> Date: Mon=2C 23 Aug 2010 04:41:31 -0700
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
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> I am at the point in the build of my Europa XS Monowheel where I need to
make a decision on engine selection. I have always considered the 914 the
logical choice for the high density altitude airstrips where I fly at New M
exico=2C Utah and Colorado. Typical summer time density altitudes are at 7
000 to 9000 ft in the morning and typical cruising altitudes are 9500 to 12
500 MSL. I believe
> the 914 will provide the performance margin needed in this environment.
However=2C I am concerned that the 914 may have reliability or maintenance
issues that would result in frequent maintenance actions or failure of comp
onents (TCU=2C turbo=2C boost pumps=2C etc) that would make life miserable
for long cross country flights. I don=99t have specific data that wo
uld suggest that the 914 has significant reliability or maintenance issues.
I have read an account of an Europa owner that changed out his 914 for a
912S due to engine issues. I have over 400 hours of mostly trouble free op
erations with the Rotax 912S in my RANS S-18. I would install the 914 in m
y Europa in a heartbeat if I could expect similar reliability that I have e
xperienced with the 912S. For those operating the Rotax 914=2C I would ver
y much appreciate input on your operational experience with the 914. Shoul
d I be concerned about maintenance or reliability with the 914?
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> Europa A197
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| Subject: | Engine Selection Rotax 914? |
I have owned and flown both the Rotax 912 and the 914, with about 500 hours each.
I have not experience any reliability issues with either one, and from what
I gather from Rotax mechanics and other owners, the 914 doesn't require any
more maintenance than the 912. Living where you do, you shouldn't even consider
the 912. The 914 is the ONLY way to go for you.
Garry Stout
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of janmarker
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 7:42 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Engine Selection Rotax 914?
I am at the point in the build of my Europa XS Monowheel where I need to make a
decision on engine selection. I have always considered the 914 the logical choice
for the high density altitude airstrips where I fly at New Mexico, Utah
and Colorado. Typical summer time density altitudes are at 7000 to 9000 ft in
the morning and typical cruising altitudes are 9500 to 12500 MSL. I believe
the 914 will provide the performance margin needed in this environment. However,
I am concerned that the 914 may have reliability or maintenance issues that
would result in frequent maintenance actions or failure of components (TCU, turbo,
boost pumps, etc) that would make life miserable for long cross country
flights. I dont have specific data that would suggest that the 914 has significant
reliability or maintenance issues. I have read an account of an Europa
owner that changed out his 914 for a 912S due to engine issues. I have over 400
hours of mostly trouble free operations with the Rotax 912S in my RANS S-18.
I would install the 914 in my Europa in a heartbeat if I could expect similar
reliability that I have experienced with the 912S. For those operating the
Rotax 914, I would very much appreciate input on your operational experience
with the 914. Should I be concerned about maintenance or reliability with the
914?
Mike Marker
Europa A197
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309858#309858
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Selection Rotax 914? |
Hi Mike,
I can echo Gary's comments. I haven't encountered any particular
reliability / maintenance concerns with my 914. I did have an issue with
crankcase fretting , but this is known to Rotax and isn't particularly a 914
issue. It hasn't happened in the field very often, just call me 'lucky' I
guess :o)
If your able to afford it I would strongly encourage you to spend the
extra. I have flown mine out of places like Colarado Springs and places in
the Canadian Rockies with DA's up to 8500' at MTOW and the performance has
been outstanding.
I have a Warp drive / Airmaster propeller, but I think there are better
choices available these days. With that said, a CS propeller is highly
desirable in high DA / MTOW situtations.
Paul
N378PJ
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Selection Rotax 914? |
Have 550 hours on my Europa xs mono with 914. No sig problems. The turbo did
stick one time after being unflown for two months. Easy to unstick and no further
issues with the turbo. Had the clutch redone by lock wood at about 350
hours. Had a diaphragm in one carb split at 450 hours and lock wood came to the
rescue on that as well. I don't think tHe last two probes were turbo related.
I consider the 914 a reliable engine.
Ken Carpenter. 9XS
Sent from my iPad
Ken Carpenter
On Aug 23, 2010, at 4:41 AM, "janmarker" <mjwings@msn.com> wrote:
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> I am at the point in the build of my Europa XS Monowheel where I need to make
a decision on engine selection. I have always considered the 914 the logical
choice for the high density altitude airstrips where I fly at New Mexico, Utah
and Colorado. Typical summer time density altitudes are at 7000 to 9000 ft
in the morning and typical cruising altitudes are 9500 to 12500 MSL. I believe
> the 914 will provide the performance margin needed in this environment. However,
I am concerned that the 914 may have reliability or maintenance issues that
would result in frequent maintenance actions or failure of components (TCU,
turbo, boost pumps, etc) that would make life miserable for long cross country
flights. I dont have specific data that would suggest that the 914 has significant
reliability or maintenance issues. I have read an account of an Europa
owner that changed out his 914 for a 912S due to engine issues. I have over
400 hours of mostly trouble free operations with the Rotax 912S in my RANS S-18.
I would install the 914 in my Europa in a heartbeat if I could expect similar
reliability that I have experienced with the 912S. For those operating the
Rotax 914, I would very much appreciate input on your operational experience
with the 914. Should I be concerned about maintenance or reliability with the
914?
>
> Mike Marker
> Europa A197
>
>
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> Mike Marker
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Selection Rotax 914? |
Mike=0A=0AI have a 914 in my monowheel... We have logged almost 850 hours o
n the engine. =0AIn 2000 with about 43 hours on the plane we left Florida g
oing to Arlington, =0AWashington for the fly-in. On the trip out and return
, and the side trips, we =0Aput almost 100 hours on the tach, with no probl
ems...The turbo eliminates =0Adensity altitude problems out west on takeoff
's...=0A=0AThe engine has had some problems, but nothing serious, just norm
al operating =0Aitems...We fly in the high teens if the winds are in our fa
vor...I go 50 hours =0Awith oil changes, with no oil useage...We have repla
ced the Stator, Voltage =0Aregulator,about 20 hours ago. These are the only
major items. Our engine is one =0Aof the early 914's, and at that time Rot
ax did not have in place the web site =0Athat they have now...Our learing c
urve was harder in under standing the engine, =0Aand how it needed to be ru
n...Every one tried to operate them like the big bore =0Aengines..Low RPM"S
.If you fly a lot in the high teens, you need to keep the =0Aplugs gapped
at the minumium gap specified by Rotax..If the gap is set wide, the =0Aplug
s will misfire ocassionally...The turbo will pull 40 inches MP on take-off
=0A=C2-here at sea level if I go full throttle on takeoff..=0A=0AI have
=C2-run the engine at 5300 and 32 inches MP since new on cross countries,
and =0Afuel burn averages 5.5 GPH, which results in 142.knots in speed.=0A
=0AI hope this answers some of your questions.....This is what works for me
, other =0A914 drivers will have different approaches on how to run a 914.
=0A=0AJim Brown=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: janm
arker <mjwings@msn.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Mon, August
23, 2010 7:41:31 AM=0ASubject: Europa-List: Engine Selection Rotax 914?=0A
am at the point in the build of my Europa XS Monowheel where I need to make
a =0Adecision on engine selection.=C2- I have always considered the 914
the logical =0Achoice for the high density altitude airstrips where I fly a
t New Mexico, Utah =0Aand Colorado.=C2- Typical summer time density altit
udes are at 7000 to 9000 ft in =0Athe morning and typical cruising altitude
s are 9500 to 12500 MSL.=C2- I believe=0Athe 914 will provide the perform
ance margin needed in this environment.=C2- =0AHowever, I am concerned th
at the 914 may have reliability or maintenance issues =0Athat would result
in frequent maintenance actions or failure of components (TCU, =0Aturbo, bo
ost pumps, etc) that would make life miserable for long cross country =0Afl
ights.=C2- I don=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2t have specific data that would s
uggest that the 914 has =0Asignificant reliability or maintenance issues.
=C2- I have read an account of an =0AEuropa owner that changed out his 91
4 for a 912S due to engine issues.=C2- I have =0Aover 400 hours of mostly
trouble free operations with the Rotax 912S in my RANS =0AS-18.=C2- I wo
uld install the 914 in my Europa in a heartbeat if I could expect =0Asimila
r reliability that I have experienced with the 912S.=C2- For those operat
ing =0Athe Rotax 914, I would very much appreciate input on your operationa
l experience =0Awith the 914.=C2- Should I be concerned about maintenance
or reliability with the =0A914?=C2- =0A=0A=0AMike Marker=0AEuropa A197
=0A=0A=0A--------=0AMike Marker=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:
=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309858#309858=0A=0A=0A
=C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: tail wheel mod |
David / Ian
Thanks very much =AD XS so mod 10371
Paul
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| Subject: | Re: LAST OF THE SUMMER WINE - WITH TEXEL |
If you are not fluent in Dutch I suggest that www.flyin.nl would be a
better link, then select the english language version.
Tim
On 22 August 2010 22:35, Bob Hitchcock <robert.hitchcock@virgin.net> wrote:
> *
> September 14th. Up to 6 days available? If the weather permits we are
> taking trip to Denmark and Holland, taking in the Texel fly-in.
>
> http://www.texelairport.nl/index.html?events/index.htm&2
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> Regards
>
> Bob Hitchcock
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Selection Rotax 914? |
I have less than 250 hours so far on my mono-914. No issues so far.
I fly out of BIH on the East side of the Sierra and really like the
performance at altitude. I like being able to cruise over the big mountain
ranges at 17,000. I am currently up in Alaska, and I sure hope this little
914 is reliable!
Kevin, N211KA
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| Subject: | Re: Engine Selection Rotax 914? |
Mike,
I might be able to help you with your choice of engines. I have stopped
building my Europa MG and have started parting out the components. I
have a zero time 914 for sale as well as a zero time Airmaster prop.
Please respond off the list if interested so as to not drag everyone
else through this...
Ralph Hallett n100rh@sbcglobal.net
Thanks,
Ralph
On 8/23/2010 4:41 AM, janmarker wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "janmarker"<mjwings@msn.com>
>
> I am at the point in the build of my Europa XS Monowheel where I need to make
a decision on engine selection. I have always considered the 914 the logical
choice for the high density altitude airstrips where I fly at New Mexico, Utah
and Colorado. Typical summer time density altitudes are at 7000 to 9000 ft
in the morning and typical cruising altitudes are 9500 to 12500 MSL. I believe
> the 914 will provide the performance margin needed in this environment. However,
I am concerned that the 914 may have reliability or maintenance issues that
would result in frequent maintenance actions or failure of components (TCU,
turbo, boost pumps, etc) that would make life miserable for long cross country
flights. I dont have specific data that would suggest that the 914 has significant
reliability or maintenance issues. I have read an account of an Europa
owner that changed out his 914 for a 912S due to engine issues. I have over
400 hours of mostly trouble free operations with the Rotax 912S in my RANS S-18.
I would install the 914 in my Europa in a heartbeat if I could expect similar
reliability that I have experienced with the 912S. For those operating the
Rotax 914, I would very much appreciate input on your operational experience
with the 914. Should I be concerned about maintenance or reliability with the
914?
>
> Mike Marker
> Europa A197
>
>
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> Mike Marker
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> Read this topic online here:
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