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1. 01:19 AM - Re: Fuel pumps 914 (rparigoris)
2. 06:48 AM - Re: Re: RR Report to the forum (Jeff B)
3. 06:52 AM - Re: RR Up-date #14 & Meeting times (Jeff B)
4. 07:06 AM - Re: Fuel pumps 914 (Rehn)
5. 07:13 AM - Re: Texel Fly-in Sept 17-19 2010 (John Wighton)
6. 07:20 AM - Re: Re: Fuel pumps 914 (Rehn)
7. 07:41 AM - Fw: Meeting room. (JEFF ROBERTS)
8. 07:41 AM - Re: RR Up-date #14 & Meeting times (h&jeuropa)
9. 08:39 AM - Re: RR Up-date #14 & Meeting times (Troy Maynor)
10. 08:40 AM - Re: RR Up-date #14 & Meeting times (Fred Klein)
11. 09:47 AM - Re: Texel Fly-in Sept 17-19 2010 (John Price)
12. 09:51 AM - RR Up-Date #15 Meetings (JEFF ROBERTS)
13. 10:43 AM - Re: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings (William McClellan)
14. 10:44 AM - Re: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings (Jeff B)
15. 11:43 AM - Re: Texel Fly-in Sept 17-19 2010 (John Wighton)
16. 12:21 PM - Re: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings (JEFF ROBERTS)
17. 12:27 PM - Re: Auto-pilot servos (ploucandco)
18. 12:49 PM - Re: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings (Troy Maynor)
19. 01:27 PM - Re: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings (Jeff B)
20. 04:40 PM - Re: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings (h&jeuropa)
21. 04:42 PM - Re: RR Up-date #14 & Dog and Pony shows. (Bud Yerly)
22. 10:23 PM - Re: SV: Front wheel wobbling (europapa)
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Subject: | Re: Fuel pumps 914 |
Hi Jerry
I am a firm believer that Europa has the right idea with their latest 914 fuel
system layout where pump number two has a seperate feed from a second fuel filter
or gasculator.
The fuel layout you posted does not have a second feed.
Here is a clearer layout of Europas schematic, I substituted two Andiar 375 gasculators
instead of supplied filters. The momentary three filters were just that,
momentary so I didn't put any debris into 5 gallons of borrower 100LL.
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId869
Ron Parigoris
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Subject: | Re: RR Report to the forum |
While I will not be giving the report, I will document the meetings on
video, which can be uploaded to the website...
Jeff - Baby Blue
On 9/7/2010 5:45 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
> Steve,
> We'll chose someone there to give a report to the forum. Any volunteers
> guys?
>
> Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:14 PM, Steven Pitt wrote:
>
>> Jeff,
>> Any feedback you can give to the rest of the forum after your event
>> would be appreciated. Regards to all especially from this side of the
>> pond.
>> Steve Pitt
>> G-SMDH
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> *From:* JEFF ROBERTS <mailto:Jeff@rmmm.net>
>> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, September 07, 2010 6:03 PM
>> *Subject:* Europa-List: RR Up-date #14 & Dog and Pony shows.
>>
>> Gentleman,
>> I will hopefully confirm today or tomorrow that we have the
>> meeting room for Saturday AM and any other time we'll need it.
>> There is also a small room at the airport for a gathering should
>> we also need it.
>>
>> I'm going to start a list of topics here on this page. I have ask
>> Bud Yearly to cover the ones you see as he has had a lot of
>> request for this info. He wants us all to join in as a discussion.
>> If you would like to add to this list, place your name first then
>> the topic you want to cover. Once we have an agenda we can make a
>> plan to cover it at the meeting room or at the runway. For all of
>> us and our wives, I would ask that we keep these reasonably short
>> and to the point. The topics should be ones that most would be
>> interested in. Remember... this fly-in is to learn but mostly to
>> have FUN and a lot of it.
>> Too much classroom will send my wife scurrying to a store to spend
>> money. I know your going to say there aren't any stores out
>> there.... well you don't know my wife!
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps these would be better served in the meeting room.
>>
>> Anyone that has solved a problem can chime in at anytime. This
>> should be informal discussion at it's best.
>> 1. Bud: Most important is the SB on the MG wing.
>> 2. Bud: Next would be the Refueling safety
>> 3. Bud: Finally is the long awaited New Airmaster Props.
>> 5. Bud: Solving short field and stall characteristics by use of
>> VGs.... Very interesting!
>> 6. Bud: New Rotax Ideas in the Fuel Injection arena... Jeff likes
>> this topic! I hear Rotac... the radial guys have a bolt on
>> injector that works well on the 9 series engine.
>> 7.
>> 8.
>> 9.
>> 10.
>>
>> Perhaps these would be better served on the flight line.
>>
>> 1. Bud-Jeff & All: Cooling issues.
>> 2. Kim Prout: Speed Mods etc. Kim let me know if there is more you
>> would like to cover or if I have this wrong.
>> 3.
>> 4.
>> 5.
>>
>> Please add your name and topic onto this list. This will give us a
>> better chance of planning the times.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to all that want to contribute. Wow what a great event this
>> will be!! I am praying to the weather gods every day!
>> Regards,
>> Jeff R.
>>
>>
>> Here's the latest attendance up-date. If there is anyone missing
>> please let me know.
>>
>> Lates Attendees:
>> Jeff & Mary Buhrans - N55XS Flying Baby Blue in.
>> Jeff & Karen Roberts - N128LJ Gold Rush Flying In
>> Troy & Donna Maynor - Flying his brand new Mono Classic ;o)..
>> Jim & Lynne Puglise - Driving the air conditioned control tower,
>> beer bar, meeting place/motor home. ;o)
>> John & Susan Lawton - N245E Flying his Jab powered Europa
>> Bob & Maureen Borger N914XL Flying In from Texas in... Little
>> Dragon Lady.
>> Paul McAllister... N378PJ Back in the country and getting new cowl
>> mods ready.
>> Jim & Heather Butcher - Flying in
>> Bud Yearly - N12AY Flying in... Yea Bud!
>> Jim Brown - N398JB - AKA JimBob. Flying up with Bud in formation.
>> Keep em separate boys!
>> John & Paddy Wigney - Flying in the good ship N262WF
>> Jim Woolnough - Via the big iron and driving from Louisville.
>> Creighton Smith A-036 - Via the big iron with Jim... Welcome
>> aboard mates!
>> Great to have the west coast boys.
>> Bob Lindsay - Flying in N77EU Turbo Toy. Flight of 3 maybe 4
>> Erich Trombley - Flying in N28ET Classic mono 914. Flight of 3 maybe 4
>> Kim Prout - Flying in N111EU The classic mono featured in July Kit
>> Planes Magazine Flight of 3 maybe 4
>> And Here's to Kevin Klinefelter N211KA getting in on the fun!! Let
>> us know Kevin when you can... Maybe the 4th of the 3 ;0)
>> Fred Kline.... All the way from Orcas Island, WA
>> William McCellan Building A164 XS conventional gear Jab. Flying
>> the big iron in with Fred.
>> Michael Grass Building A286 Tri-gear. Flying in from Detroit in
>> his C -150 Welcome Michael!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Euopa Logo.gif> Annual Rough River Fly In. September 17th & 18th
>> 2010 and beyond!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Subject: | Re: RR Up-date #14 & Meeting times |
So, why not book the room for after dinner, Saturday and meet for an
hour or so to get the news/technical stuff out and do the rest of our
meetings, ad-hock at the airport building. I'd hate to see a fun event,
like this, "planned" to the second. Some of you long time builders
really need a ride or two to get your juices flowing again...
Let's keep it spontaneous...
Jeff - Baby Blue
On 9/7/2010 4:51 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
> Guys,
> The large meeting room is booked with a wedding that day. They have
> another room down the hall called the Terrace room but it can't be used
> till 5:pm. It's cost is $75 and we can go as late as necessary.
> My suggestion would be to meet at the flight line and cover as much as
> necessary. Then we can also use the lounge right there as well. My guess
> is the wives wouldn't want to attend anyway so the small lounge may work.
> If you like chime in here and give me your vote. I can book the meeting
> room for 5:p and we can all chip in there to pay for it. It will seat
> over 50 so we'll have plenty of room and perhaps a dry erase board as well.
>
> This will place our Saturday supper late. Hey maybe we could eat there
> as well? I'll check on it.
>
> Jeff R
>
>
> On Sep 7, 2010, at 4:16 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net
> <mailto:jimpuglise@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> Jeff-VGs are very important to me, but they are already there.
>> Jim Puglise
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "JEFF ROBERTS" <Jeff@rmmm.net <mailto:Jeff@rmmm.net>>
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 7, 2010 1:03:31 PM
>> Subject: Europa-List: RR Up-date #14 & Dog and Pony shows.
>>
>> Gentleman,
>> I will hopefully confirm today or tomorrow that we have the meeting
>> room for Saturday AM and any other time we'll need it. There is also a
>> small room at the airport for a gathering should we also need it.
>>
>> I'm going to start a list of topics here on this page. I have ask Bud
>> Yearly to cover the ones you see as he has had a lot of request for
>> this info. He wants us all to join in as a discussion. If you would
>> like to add to this list, place your name first then the topic you
>> want to cover. Once we have an agenda we can make a plan to cover it
>> at the meeting room or at the runway. For all of us and our wives, I
>> would ask that we keep these reasonably short and to the point. The
>> topics should be ones that most would be interested in. Remember...
>> this fly-in is to learn but mostly to have FUN and a lot of it.
>> Too much classroom will send my wife scurrying to a store to spend
>> money. I know your going to say there aren't any stores out there....
>> well you don't know my wife!
>>
>>
>>
>> Perhaps these would be better served in the meeting room.
>>
>> Anyone that has solved a problem can chime in at anytime. This should
>> be informal discussion at it's best.
>> 1. Bud: Most important is the SB on the MG wing.
>> 2. Bud: Next would be the Refueling safety
>> 3. Bud: Finally is the long awaited New Airmaster Props.
>> 5. Bud: Solving short field and stall characteristics by use of
>> VGs.... Very interesting!
>> 6. Bud: New Rotax Ideas in the Fuel Injection arena... Jeff likes this
>> topic! I hear Rotac... the radial guys have a bolt on injector that
>> works well on the 9 series engine.
>> 7.
>> 8.
>> 9.
>> 10.
>>
>> Perhaps these would be better served on the flight line.
>>
>> 1. Bud-Jeff & All: Cooling issues.
>> 2. Kim Prout: Speed Mods etc. Kim let me know if there is more you
>> would like to cover or if I have this wrong.
>> 3.
>> 4.
>> 5.
>>
>> Please add your name and topic onto this list. This will give us a
>> better chance of planning the times.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks to all that want to contribute. Wow what a great event this
>> will be!! I am praying to the weather gods every day!
>> Regards,
>> Jeff R.
>>
>>
>> Here's the latest attendance up-date. If there is anyone missing
>> please let me know.
>>
>> Lates Attendees:
>> Jeff & Mary Buhrans - N55XS Flying Baby Blue in.
>> Jeff & Karen Roberts - N128LJ Gold Rush Flying In
>> Troy & Donna Maynor - Flying his brand new Mono Classic ;o)..
>> Jim & Lynne Puglise - Driving the air conditioned control tower, beer
>> bar, meeting place/motor home. ;o)
>> John & Susan Lawton - N245E Flying his Jab powered Europa
>> Bob & Maureen Borger N914XL Flying In from Texas in... Little Dragon Lady.
>> Paul McAllister... N378PJ Back in the country and getting new cowl
>> mods ready.
>> Jim & Heather Butcher - Flying in
>> Bud Yearly - N12AY Flying in... Yea Bud!
>> Jim Brown - N398JB - AKA JimBob. Flying up with Bud in formation. Keep
>> em separate boys!
>> John & Paddy Wigney - Flying in the good ship N262WF
>> Jim Woolnough - Via the big iron and driving from Louisville.
>> Creighton Smith A-036 - Via the big iron with Jim... Welcome aboard mates!
>> Great to have the west coast boys.
>> Bob Lindsay - Flying in N77EU Turbo Toy. Flight of 3 maybe 4
>> Erich Trombley - Flying in N28ET Classic mono 914. Flight of 3 maybe 4
>> Kim Prout - Flying in N111EU The classic mono featured in July Kit
>> Planes Magazine Flight of 3 maybe 4
>> And Here's to Kevin Klinefelter N211KA getting in on the fun!! Let us
>> know Kevin when you can... Maybe the 4th of the 3 ;0)
>> Fred Kline.... All the way from Orcas Island, WA
>> William McCellan Building A164 XS conventional gear Jab. Flying the
>> big iron in with Fred.
>> Michael Grass Building A286 Tri-gear. Flying in from Detroit in his C
>> -150 Welcome Michael!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> <Euopa Logo.gif> Annual Rough River Fly In. September 17th & 18th 2010
>> and beyond!
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Subject: | Re: Fuel pumps 914 |
The check valves are there they are the small silver guys. They also are
a very expensive certified Katana part. I think this layout meets the
Rotax series requirement but obviously doesn't show the filter which is
also asked for.
Jerry
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 7, 2010, at 10:58 PM, "Robert C Harrison"
<ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> wrote:
> Hi! Jerry.
> The one way/non return valves (vis:- Europa designed system) are
conspicuous by their absence.
> What say you about this?..........I guess anything can look really
tidy if some of the kit is missed out?
> Regards
> Bob Harrison (G-PTAG)
>
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Rehn
> Sent: 07 September 2010 22:52
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Fuel pumps 914
>
> Here=99s a photo of the series recommended Rotax fuel pump setup
using manifolds. They had this at the Rotax maintenance class I attended
in Canada. Nice and clean. These manifolds and this setup were designed
for use in certified 914s. I was going to buy the manifolds until I
found out they had =9Cprecious certified=9D costs as well. I
went to McMasters and Aircraft Spruce and found =9Coff the
shelf=9D manifolds that worked for much less. Thanks to Dan Bish
A144 for digging these out. He also has a photo in the Europa build
gallery on this setup.
> Jerry
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Texel Fly-in Sept 17-19 2010 |
Guys, thanks for all the input.
My plane is based at Great Oakley, so l am very close to the E coast. Logical
routing is straight across to north of AMS TMA. I would be happier doing this
for the first time in a loose gaggle of aircraft. However, l am happy to meet
up at Lydd or elsewhere. The routing info was useful, l guess that constitutes
the AFPex FP input?
The plane is currently at Henstridge, having had its panel mildly modified with
a TT21, SL30, ELT and a D10A added. Assumption is that it will all work correctly
following the collection and ferry back to Gt Oakley.
I guess the best plan is to ensure my plane is good to go and then reconnect via
the forum early next week. The weather will be cleared by then and the routing
option may be reduced due to Wx.
Regards
John
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Subject: | Re: Fuel pumps 914 |
Yeah, it sure has more safety built into the system, maybe rotax will suggest that
someday.They were probably addressing the pressure issues and the fuel pumps
built in check valve not 100 percent failure proof when they went to the series
and check valves system.
Anyway the manifolds are pretty!
Jerry
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 8, 2010, at 1:17 AM, "rparigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us> wrote:
>
> Hi Jerry
>
> I am a firm believer that Europa has the right idea with their latest 914 fuel
system layout where pump number two has a seperate feed from a second fuel filter
or gasculator.
>
> The fuel layout you posted does not have a second feed.
>
> Here is a clearer layout of Europas schematic, I substituted two Andiar 375 gasculators
instead of supplied filters. The momentary three filters were just
that, momentary so I didn't put any debris into 5 gallons of borrower 100LL.
>
> http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId869
>
>
> Ron Parigoris
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=311784#311784
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Fwd: Meeting room. |
Guys,
See the message from RR below. Looks like she made a mistake. The
Terrace room is not available. However this other room looks even
better as we'll be able to eat then do the meeting right there. I am
trying to find out what times or if this room can be used anytime.
I'll keep you posted.
Jeff R
Begin forwarded message:
> From: "Clark, Donna F (Parks)" <DonnaF.Clark@ky.gov>
> Date: September 8, 2010 8:03:12 AM CDT
> To: "JEFF ROBERTS" <Jeff@rmmm.net>
> Subject: RE: Meeting room.
>
>
> Morning Jeff
> I made a mistake the Terrace room is not available sorry
> But however I can move you to the dining room to a private room and
> you
> will be able to enjoy are buffet and meet at the same time
> If you are interest just let me know
> Meeting room charge is $50 Buffet is 12.99 / Beverage is 1.99
> Plus tax & gratuity
> If at all possible let me know soon
> Thanks
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: JEFF ROBERTS [mailto:Jeff@rmmm.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 5:43 PM
> To: Clark, Donna F (Parks)
> Subject: Meeting room.
>
> Donna,
> Can you tell me if we use the Terrace room for our meeting at 5:p
> could we eat there at say 6: then continue our meeting?
> Didn't know if you can set it up for that or not.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jeff Roberts / Europa fly-in Sept 17th & 18th
> Eagleville Marketing Group
> 615-355-7575 Office
> 615-406-8651 Cell
> 615-534-1082 Fax
>
>
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Subject: | Re: RR Up-date #14 & Meeting times |
We like Freds suggestion that we kick off with the whole group & make introductions.
Wed like to spend most of the day at the flight line, and keep it casual
& fun, visiting with one another & admiring the planes. Probably most of the
topics will be discussed informally. At the end of the group intro, if desired,
a few specific topics & times could be set, and leave the rest to chance.
The pilots lounge is probably big enough if we need a more formal setting (i.e.
for MG SB). We dont think a meeting room at the lodge is necessary. Looking
forward to seeing everyone!
Jim & Heather
N241BW
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Subject: | Re: RR Up-date #14 & Meeting times |
I agree with Jim and Heather. The lounge at the flight line (and close to our babies)
should suffice.
Troy and Donna
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Subject: | Re: RR Up-date #14 & Meeting times |
On Sep 8, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Jeff B wrote:
> Some of you long time builders really need a ride or two to get your
> juices flowing again...
...ah wuz hopin sum won wud bring thet up...
>
> Let's keep it spontaneous...
...ahv offin sed thet control is overrated...less yur in tha air...
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: Texel Fly-in Sept 17-19 2010 |
John,
I am planning to leave Rochester at about lunch time on Saturday and come back
after lunch on Sunday if you don't fancy the whole weekend. This will be subject
to weather as we are planning to camp. We could go in loose formation if you
are interested routing DVR KONAN KOK then up the coast.
John Price.
G-SHSH
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Subject: | RR Up-Date #15 Meetings |
Gentlemen,
I must say I agree with the idea of keeping it spontaneous. With that
said and all who have jumped in voting on the agenda part here is what
RR just offered. She apologized for not having the Terrace room as she
once thought so she's giving us this meeting room by the dinning room
free for Friday night to eat in. I know some are not going to be there
till Saturday am but I didn't want to turn down free. We can eat talk
and introduce ourselves then. The few that don't get in till Saturday
would not miss much.
I then ask her for the room for our Saturday 9:am breakfast. This will
have a $50 charge. We can take our time, go thru the non flight line
discussions. Anyone can leave to the runway anytime as some
discussions may not apply. As soon as we're all done, or most have
left we can all head to the runway and continue either as a group or
one on one.
Then the fun... I mean flying part can begin. Of course all weather
depending. Should we all decide, or the weather force us we can have
the room again at dinner time to further cover areas of interest. She
said she would make it available for another $50. We don't need to
decide this till then.
The second most fun other than flying the Europa is to talk Europa.
This arrangement should give us these best use of time options and a
private place to eat / shoot the bull.
I need a second and third to lock this Idea in so let me have it boys
and girls.
Yes or No?
Jeff Roberts
N1208LJ Gold Rush
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Subject: | Re: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings |
Jeff, that sounds like a plan. We will not get to RR until 8:00+/- on Friday evening.
What time would you plan the Friday Dinner?
Bill McClellan
-----Original Message-----
>From: JEFF ROBERTS <Jeff@rmmm.net>
>Sent: Sep 8, 2010 12:48 PM
>To: europa-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Europa-List: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings
>
>
>Gentlemen,
>I must say I agree with the idea of keeping it spontaneous. With that
>said and all who have jumped in voting on the agenda part here is what
>RR just offered. She apologized for not having the Terrace room as she
>once thought so she's giving us this meeting room by the dinning room
>free for Friday night to eat in. I know some are not going to be there
>till Saturday am but I didn't want to turn down free. We can eat talk
>and introduce ourselves then. The few that don't get in till Saturday
>would not miss much.
>I then ask her for the room for our Saturday 9:am breakfast. This will
>have a $50 charge. We can take our time, go thru the non flight line
>discussions. Anyone can leave to the runway anytime as some
>discussions may not apply. As soon as we're all done, or most have
>left we can all head to the runway and continue either as a group or
>one on one.
>Then the fun... I mean flying part can begin. Of course all weather
>depending. Should we all decide, or the weather force us we can have
>the room again at dinner time to further cover areas of interest. She
>said she would make it available for another $50. We don't need to
>decide this till then.
>The second most fun other than flying the Europa is to talk Europa.
>This arrangement should give us these best use of time options and a
>private place to eat / shoot the bull.
>
>I need a second and third to lock this Idea in so let me have it boys
>and girls.
>
>Yes or No?
>
>
>Jeff Roberts
>N1208LJ Gold Rush
>
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Subject: | Re: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings |
If we get the tech stuff out of the way in the morning, possibly meeting
at 8 instead of 9, for breakfast, we can just play the evening by ear.
Maybe just get the room, in the evening, anyway, then see what develops.
General BS can take place at the airfield and we can get some flying
in. As far as I'm concerned, we can take the room for all three
occasions...
Jeff - Baby Blue
On 9/8/2010 11:48 AM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
>
> Gentlemen,
> I must say I agree with the idea of keeping it spontaneous. With that
> said and all who have jumped in voting on the agenda part here is what
> RR just offered. She apologized for not having the Terrace room as she
> once thought so she's giving us this meeting room by the dinning room
> free for Friday night to eat in. I know some are not going to be there
> till Saturday am but I didn't want to turn down free. We can eat talk
> and introduce ourselves then. The few that don't get in till Saturday
> would not miss much.
> I then ask her for the room for our Saturday 9:am breakfast. This will
> have a $50 charge. We can take our time, go thru the non flight line
> discussions. Anyone can leave to the runway anytime as some discussions
> may not apply. As soon as we're all done, or most have left we can all
> head to the runway and continue either as a group or one on one.
> Then the fun... I mean flying part can begin. Of course all weather
> depending. Should we all decide, or the weather force us we can have the
> room again at dinner time to further cover areas of interest. She said
> she would make it available for another $50. We don't need to decide
> this till then.
> The second most fun other than flying the Europa is to talk Europa. This
> arrangement should give us these best use of time options and a private
> place to eat / shoot the bull.
>
> I need a second and third to lock this Idea in so let me have it boys
> and girls.
>
> Yes or No?
>
>
> Jeff Roberts
> N1208LJ Gold Rush
>
>
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>
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Subject: | Re: Texel Fly-in Sept 17-19 2010 |
Thanks John, final decision on route etc to be confirmed early next week.
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Subject: | Re: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings |
Bill, Jeff & All,
I just got off the phone with RR and have negotiated the room down to
$25.00 per use. So here's the deal. Friday night dinner for all that
can make it at 6:pm. We can stay in the meeting room for free and
introduce everyone.
Saturday morning breakfast at say 8:30 AM. Once again for those that
just came in we can give them their name tags and have them
introduced. We can then move onto the tech stuff and take as much
time as needed. Once again anyone can leave anytime. That should get
everyone to the flight line sometime between 10:30A and noon.
We can take our time weather providing and fly, talk or if necessary
move into the pilots lounge area or even on the porch. It will be like
a free style cruse. ;o)
We can all meet at 5 to 5:30 for supper and have the room again to
cover any ground anyone feels we missed out on. Once again... your
choice. If the evening weather turned out to be exceptional... chances
are I would want to head back to the birds on the field. The most the
room could cost for all 3 times if chosen to use it would be $50. Now
thats a deal!
It's time to put this to bed so once again give me a yea or nay and
we'll get er done.
Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:34 PM, William McClellan wrote:
> >
>
> Jeff, that sounds like a plan. We will not get to RR until 8:00+/-
> on Friday evening. What time would you plan the Friday Dinner?
> Bill McClellan
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>> From: JEFF ROBERTS <Jeff@rmmm.net>
>> Sent: Sep 8, 2010 12:48 PM
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Europa-List: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings
>>
>>
>> Gentlemen,
>> I must say I agree with the idea of keeping it spontaneous. With that
>> said and all who have jumped in voting on the agenda part here is
>> what
>> RR just offered. She apologized for not having the Terrace room as
>> she
>> once thought so she's giving us this meeting room by the dinning room
>> free for Friday night to eat in. I know some are not going to be
>> there
>> till Saturday am but I didn't want to turn down free. We can eat talk
>> and introduce ourselves then. The few that don't get in till Saturday
>> would not miss much.
>> I then ask her for the room for our Saturday 9:am breakfast. This
>> will
>> have a $50 charge. We can take our time, go thru the non flight line
>> discussions. Anyone can leave to the runway anytime as some
>> discussions may not apply. As soon as we're all done, or most have
>> left we can all head to the runway and continue either as a group or
>> one on one.
>> Then the fun... I mean flying part can begin. Of course all weather
>> depending. Should we all decide, or the weather force us we can have
>> the room again at dinner time to further cover areas of interest. She
>> said she would make it available for another $50. We don't need to
>> decide this till then.
>> The second most fun other than flying the Europa is to talk Europa.
>> This arrangement should give us these best use of time options and a
>> private place to eat / shoot the bull.
>>
>> I need a second and third to lock this Idea in so let me have it boys
>> and girls.
>>
>> Yes or No?
>>
>>
>> Jeff Roberts
>> N1208LJ Gold Rush
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Auto-pilot servos |
Hi Rick,
I have both roll and pitch servos connected to my Dynon D10A. Working very strong
for an unbeatable price (750$ X2) if you have a Dynon EFIS.
No autotrim, but indication if you need to trim up or down. Really nice!
Just a button on the stick to enable (and disable) both servos to maintain heading
and altitude. If you have an AP74 (specific autopilot user interface), you
have dedicated controls to set the altitude/heading bugs and needed horizontal
mode (heading or track or course following the GPS flight plan). Even without
it, using the menu is pretty OK.
The installation is similar to the one with Trutrak servos without the hassle of
their D connector that is preventing installation in a monowheel.
Jacques.
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Subject: | Re: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings |
Yea from me and Donna,
Troy Maynor
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Subject: | Re: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings |
DO IT!
Jeff - Baby Blue
On 9/8/2010 2:17 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
>
> Bill, Jeff & All,
> I just got off the phone with RR and have negotiated the room down to
> $25.00 per use. So here's the deal. Friday night dinner for all that can
> make it at 6:pm. We can stay in the meeting room for free and introduce
> everyone.
> Saturday morning breakfast at say 8:30 AM. Once again for those that
> just came in we can give them their name tags and have them introduced.
> We can then move onto the tech stuff and take as much time as needed.
> Once again anyone can leave anytime. That should get everyone to the
> flight line sometime between 10:30A and noon.
> We can take our time weather providing and fly, talk or if necessary
> move into the pilots lounge area or even on the porch. It will be like a
> free style cruse. ;o)
> We can all meet at 5 to 5:30 for supper and have the room again to cover
> any ground anyone feels we missed out on. Once again... your choice. If
> the evening weather turned out to be exceptional... chances are I would
> want to head back to the birds on the field. The most the room could
> cost for all 3 times if chosen to use it would be $50. Now thats a deal!
>
> It's time to put this to bed so once again give me a yea or nay and
> we'll get er done.
>
>
> Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
>
>
> On Sep 8, 2010, at 12:34 PM, William McClellan wrote:
>
>> <wilwood@earthlink.net>
>>
>> Jeff, that sounds like a plan. We will not get to RR until 8:00+/- on
>> Friday evening. What time would you plan the Friday Dinner?
>> Bill McClellan
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: JEFF ROBERTS <Jeff@rmmm.net>
>>> Sent: Sep 8, 2010 12:48 PM
>>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>>> Subject: Europa-List: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings
>>>
>>>
>>> Gentlemen,
>>> I must say I agree with the idea of keeping it spontaneous. With that
>>> said and all who have jumped in voting on the agenda part here is what
>>> RR just offered. She apologized for not having the Terrace room as she
>>> once thought so she's giving us this meeting room by the dinning room
>>> free for Friday night to eat in. I know some are not going to be there
>>> till Saturday am but I didn't want to turn down free. We can eat talk
>>> and introduce ourselves then. The few that don't get in till Saturday
>>> would not miss much.
>>> I then ask her for the room for our Saturday 9:am breakfast. This will
>>> have a $50 charge. We can take our time, go thru the non flight line
>>> discussions. Anyone can leave to the runway anytime as some
>>> discussions may not apply. As soon as we're all done, or most have
>>> left we can all head to the runway and continue either as a group or
>>> one on one.
>>> Then the fun... I mean flying part can begin. Of course all weather
>>> depending. Should we all decide, or the weather force us we can have
>>> the room again at dinner time to further cover areas of interest. She
>>> said she would make it available for another $50. We don't need to
>>> decide this till then.
>>> The second most fun other than flying the Europa is to talk Europa.
>>> This arrangement should give us these best use of time options and a
>>> private place to eat / shoot the bull.
>>>
>>> I need a second and third to lock this Idea in so let me have it boys
>>> and girls.
>>>
>>> Yes or No?
>>>
>>>
>>> Jeff Roberts
>>> N1208LJ Gold Rush
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
>
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Subject: | Re: RR Up-Date #15 Meetings |
Sounds great! Thanks for making all the arrangements.
Jim & Heather
N241BW
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Subject: | Re: RR Up-date #14 & Dog and Pony shows. |
OK Jeff,
I'll keep the topics to 5 minutes and entertain questions, as I can't
stand to listen to myself much longer, as you guys have the questions
that I have been plugging away on... I have received a couple of the
new Airmaster brochures which should help also. Hopefully some test
data.
If the weather doesn't pan out, Jim and I are planning to leave
Thursday, I'll drive straight through on Friday and be there Sat AM.
We really need to give Bob Borger 5 minutes on his fuel injection pump.
Really a class act for the 914 group.
Regards,
Bud
----- Original Message -----
From: JEFF ROBERTS<mailto:Jeff@rmmm.net>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 07, 2010 1:03 PM
Subject: Europa-List: RR Up-date #14 & Dog and Pony shows.
Gentleman,
I will hopefully confirm today or tomorrow that we have the meeting
room for Saturday AM and any other time we'll need it. There is also a
small room at the airport for a gathering should we also need it.
I'm going to start a list of topics here on this page. I have ask Bud
Yearly to cover the ones you see as he has had a lot of request for this
info. He wants us all to join in as a discussion. If you would like to
add to this list, place your name first then the topic you want to
cover. Once we have an agenda we can make a plan to cover it at the
meeting room or at the runway. For all of us and our wives, I would ask
that we keep these reasonably short and to the point. The topics should
be ones that most would be interested in. Remember... this fly-in is to
learn but mostly to have FUN and a lot of it.
Too much classroom will send my wife scurrying to a store to spend
money. I know your going to say there aren't any stores out there....
well you don't know my wife!
Perhaps these would be better served in the meeting room.
Anyone that has solved a problem can chime in at anytime. This should
be informal discussion at it's best.
1. Bud: Most important is the SB on the MG wing.
2. Bud: Next would be the Refueling safety
3. Bud: Finally is the long awaited New Airmaster Props.
5. Bud: Solving short field and stall characteristics by use of
VGs.... Very interesting!
6. Bud: New Rotax Ideas in the Fuel Injection arena... Jeff likes this
topic! I hear Rotac... the radial guys have a bolt on injector that
works well on the 9 series engine.
7.
8.
9.
10.
Perhaps these would be better served on the flight line.
1. Bud-Jeff & All: Cooling issues.
2. Kim Prout: Speed Mods etc. Kim let me know if there is more you
would like to cover or if I have this wrong.
3.
4.
5.
Please add your name and topic onto this list. This will give us a
better chance of planning the times.
Thanks to all that want to contribute. Wow what a great event this
will be!! I am praying to the weather gods every day!
Regards,
Jeff R.
Here's the latest attendance up-date. If there is anyone missing
please let me know.
Lates Attendees:
Jeff & Mary Buhrans - N55XS Flying Baby Blue in.
Jeff & Karen Roberts - N128LJ Gold Rush Flying In
Troy & Donna Maynor - Flying his brand new Mono Classic ;o)..
Jim & Lynne Puglise - Driving the air conditioned control tower, beer
bar, meeting place/motor home. ;o)
John & Susan Lawton - N245E Flying his Jab powered Europa
Bob & Maureen Borger N914XL Flying In from Texas in... Little Dragon
Lady.
Paul McAllister... N378PJ Back in the country and getting new cowl
mods ready.
Jim & Heather Butcher - Flying in
Bud Yearly - N12AY Flying in... Yea Bud!
Jim Brown - N398JB - AKA JimBob. Flying up with Bud in formation. Keep
em separate boys!
John & Paddy Wigney - Flying in the good ship N262WF
Jim Woolnough - Via the big iron and driving from Louisville.
Creighton Smith A-036 - Via the big iron with Jim... Welcome aboard
mates!
Great to have the west coast boys.
Bob Lindsay - Flying in N77EU Turbo Toy. Flight of 3 maybe 4
Erich Trombley - Flying in N28ET Classic mono 914. Flight of 3 maybe 4
Kim Prout - Flying in N111EU The classic mono featured in July Kit
Planes Magazine Flight of 3 maybe 4
And Here's to Kevin Klinefelter N211KA getting in on the fun!! Let us
know Kevin when you can... Maybe the 4th of the 3 ;0)
Fred Kline.... All the way from Orcas Island, WA
William McCellan Building A164 XS conventional gear Jab. Flying the
big iron in with Fred.
Michael Grass Building A286 Tri-gear. Flying in from Detroit in his C
-150 Welcome Michael!
Annual Rough River Fly In. September 17th & 18th 2010 and beyond!
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Subject: | Re: SV: Front wheel wobbling |
Thanks again for your support.
Just to let you know what Im talking about:
http://lightaircraftinjersey.fotopic.net/p53990002.html
Juergen
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