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     1. 02:21 AM - Re: FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. (Robert C Harrison)
     2. 09:56 AM - Re: FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. (Fred Klein)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:21:29 AM PST US
    From: "Robert C Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident..
    Hi! Fred. Let's get it straight ...In no way was I furthering my now long forgotten bad dream against Jabiru I was just trying to add a real time dimension to the FAA investigation ....of course their corrosion findings should be given every credence. My contribution was also to further an added safety dimension concerning the damn carb bowl pressure balance pipe and its correct place of termination because I recognize that the symptoms the unfortunate soul encountered in the air were not unlike my experience on the ground. Yes...I must have been "wet behind the ears" to do what I did but I repeat there was no mention of the pipe in my original copy of the installation manual and that appertained to Engine No 004! What I should have done was ask questions as to the correct installation position and then I would probably have sparked the correct message being addressed by their manual earlier. I take it you haven't noticed that new oil added can bugger off down the breather pipe? My sole concern here was that it may be the case that the accident aircraft had this deficiency and it may have been missed by the FAA in their after the event investigation but more importantly other operators may be flying an incorrect installation oblivious as to the imminent possibility of engine failure. OK Rotax installations may have two locations for corrosion to develop, so what, at least they have issued an SB on the matter I'm concerned with. If you don't like what I said then that's your prerogative but ignore it at your peril, but now even you won't do that so I've achieved something ! I rest my case with a clear conscience. Regards to all Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein Sent: 11 September 2010 01:49 Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. On Sep 9, 2010, at 4:03 AM, Robert C Harrison wrote: > My attempt to get this message onto the Jabiru engines list failed > probably > since I'm unsubscribed or probably I used an incorrect address. Bob, As your msg relates to a 6 month old notice of potential corrosion in the Jab's single Bing carburetor, would not the potential for mischief in the Rotax 9xx's twin Bings be doubled? Why no concern for that while heaping warnings of dire consequences for Jab owners? Fred A194


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    Time: 09:56:28 AM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: Re: FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident..
    On Sep 11, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Robert C Harrison wrote: > OK Rotax installations may have two locations for corrosion to > develop, so > what, at least they have issued an SB on the matter I'm concerned > with. Bob, As I understand your response to my question, you did not address the Bing-in-the-Rotax because a Service Bulletin has been issued...fair point...I wasn't aware of that...thank you for the clarification. (It's also nice that the Rotax carries a spare Bing.) > If you don't like what I said then that's your prerogative but > ignore it at > your peril, but now even you won't do that so I've achieved > something ! > I rest my case with a clear conscience. I don't recall feeling any particular energy towards "liking" or "not liking" what you said...as for my ignoring your concern at my peril, my particular engine (being MPEFIed) is Bing-free...though other gremlins undoubtably lurk within it. Fly safe and happy landings, Fred




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