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     1. 02:21 AM - Re: FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. (Robert C Harrison)
     2. 09:56 AM - Re: FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. (Fred Klein)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. | 
      
      
      Hi! Fred.
      Let's get it straight ...In no way was I furthering my now long forgotten
      bad dream against Jabiru I was just trying to add a real time dimension to
      the FAA investigation ....of course their corrosion findings should be given
      every credence. My contribution was also to further an added safety
      dimension concerning the damn carb bowl pressure balance pipe and its
      correct place of termination because I recognize that the symptoms the
      unfortunate soul encountered in the air were not unlike my experience on the
      ground.
      Yes...I must have been "wet behind the ears" to do what I did but I repeat
      there was no mention of the pipe in my original copy of the installation
      manual and that appertained to Engine No 004! What I should have done was
      ask questions as to the correct installation position and then I would
      probably have sparked the correct message being addressed by their manual
      earlier. I take it you haven't noticed that new oil added can bugger off
      down the breather pipe?
      My sole concern here was that it may be the case that the accident aircraft
      had this deficiency and it may have been missed by the FAA in their after
      the event investigation but more importantly other operators may be flying
      an incorrect installation oblivious as to the imminent possibility of engine
      failure.
      OK Rotax installations may have two locations for corrosion to develop, so
      what, at least they have issued an SB on the matter I'm concerned with.
      If you don't like what I said then that's your prerogative but ignore it at
      your peril, but now even you won't do that so I've achieved something !  
      I rest my case with a clear conscience.
      Regards to all
      Bob Harrison G-PTAG
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein
      Sent: 11 September 2010 01:49
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal
      accident..
      
      
      
      On Sep 9, 2010, at 4:03 AM, Robert C Harrison wrote:
      
      > My attempt to get this message onto the Jabiru engines list failed  
      > probably
      > since I'm unsubscribed or probably I used an incorrect address.
      
      Bob,
      
      As your msg relates to a 6 month old notice of potential corrosion in  
      the Jab's single Bing carburetor, would not the potential for mischief  
      in the Rotax 9xx's twin Bings be doubled? Why no concern for that  
      while heaping warnings of dire consequences for Jab owners?
      
      Fred
      A194
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. | 
      
      
      
      On Sep 11, 2010, at 2:15 AM, Robert C Harrison wrote:
      
      > OK Rotax installations may have two locations for corrosion to  
      > develop, so
      > what, at least they have issued an SB on the matter I'm concerned  
      > with.
      
      Bob,
      
      As I understand your response to my question, you did not address the  
      Bing-in-the-Rotax because a Service Bulletin has been issued...fair  
      point...I wasn't aware of that...thank you for the clarification.  
      (It's also nice that the Rotax carries a spare Bing.)
      
      > If you don't like what I said then that's your prerogative but  
      > ignore it at
      > your peril, but now even you won't do that so I've achieved  
      > something !
      > I rest my case with a clear conscience.
      
      I don't recall feeling any particular energy towards "liking" or "not  
      liking" what you said...as for my ignoring your concern at my peril,  
      my particular engine (being MPEFIed) is Bing-free...though other  
      gremlins undoubtably lurk within it.
      
      Fly safe and happy landings,
      
      Fred
      
      
 
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