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Thu 09/16/10


Total Messages Posted: 12



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 12:40 AM - Europa for sale (Chris Cameron)
     2. 07:06 AM - Aircraft Accident (Guerner Remi)
     3. 07:49 AM - Re: Final RR up-date #17 (Troy Maynor)
     4. 08:41 AM - Why Mod 72? (JEFF ROBERTS)
     5. 08:49 AM - Re: Mobil 1 MX4T Oil/ RR (h&jeuropa)
     6. 09:02 AM - RR Update # 18 (more or less) (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
     7. 09:29 AM - Re: Final RR up-date #17 (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
     8. 12:36 PM - Re: Any Europa's based/near Gloucestershire Airport, Staverton, Cheltenham? (Rowland Carson)
     9. 12:41 PM - Re: RR Update # 18 (more or less) (Steven Pitt)
    10. 01:50 PM - FAA Special Certificate of Airworthiness (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
    11. 02:54 PM - Re: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion (Robert Borger)
    12. 07:35 PM - Re: Ontario, CA Fly-in (for those not doing RR). (Luc Michaud)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:40:07 AM PST US
    From: Chris Cameron <chris.cameron@paradise.net.nz>
    Subject: Europa for sale
    It is with much regret that I need to ask if there is anyone interested in purchasing a Europa located in Wellington, New Zealand. This is actually Tony K's aircraft (#272, http://www.kaon.co.nz/europa) and unfortunately my circumstances have changed and I won't be able to give her the care she deserves. I will be continuing to complete the aircraft and then appropriate test flights. However, she is available right now for someone to do this work themselves. Please contact me if there is any information I can provide you with. Cheers Chris Cameron


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    Time: 07:06:42 AM PST US
    From: Guerner Remi <air.guerner@orange.fr>
    Subject: Aircraft Accident
    Thank you for this sh.. humor! Remi <<<<<<< Brace yourself before looking at the attached image. A pilot at low level loses control over his aircraft. It narrowly misses a crowd gathered for the air show and slams into four buildings.>>>>>>


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    Time: 07:49:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Final RR up-date #17
    From: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
    Man....I hate that. Maybe you can get it together and make it Saturday at least. Troy Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312630#312630


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    Time: 08:41:12 AM PST US
    From: JEFF ROBERTS <Jeff@rmmm.net>
    Subject: Why Mod 72?
    Talk about bad timing. I was waiting for this winter's annual. I could have done it last year but put it off. Those who have not done mod 72 these pictures are for you... DO IT! I would be interested in other comments as to if I should weld the crack then fit the mod or fit the tubes in and then weld it? Or maybe I should just change the whole mount with the new one then fit the tubes in it. Was hoping to spare that job $ expense. See you all at Rough River. Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush... Driving in with beer and gas cans. :o( DSC05940 DSC05941


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    Time: 08:49:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mobil 1 MX4T Oil/ RR
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    Kevin, Is that an agreement to purchase? See you Friday afternoon - Michigan contingent is planning to arrive then too. Jim & Heather Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312642#312642


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    Time: 09:02:07 AM PST US
    From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
    Subject: RR Update # 18 (more or less)
    Lynne and I arrived last night.=C2- On the way we stopped at the Jack Dan iels Distillery for a tour and picked up a fifth of "Gentleman Jack" which will be avialable.=C2- We also got 2 cases of beer and a case of softdrin ks, so that end is covered.=C2- Local weather is expected to be good.=C2 - There were a few light showers last night and a few are predicted today , but Friday, Saturday and Sunday should be good.=C2- We will have the RV at the airport and can get arrivals to the lodge for sign-in, so everythin g looks good for a wonderful weekend.=C2- The phone and internet services are not particularly good, so don't expect to communicate much.=C2- The wi-fi is good at the lodge, but, as I recall, marginal in the rooms=C2- See everyone tomorrow (Friday) and Saturday. Jim Puglise A-283


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    Time: 09:29:05 AM PST US
    From: jimpuglise@comcast.net
    Subject: Re: Final RR up-date #17
    Jeff- You must live right.=C2- I can think of a lot worse times to find a broke n engine mount than sitting on the ground!=C2- See you tomorrow. Jim ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jeff B" <topglock@cox.net> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:45:00 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Final RR up-date #17 Looks like a repeat of RR1 Jeff On 9/15/2010 2:01 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote: > Guy's & Gals, > Check out the Louisville KY weather report for the 10 day outlook. I > know this can change. and I don't like to count chickens from eggs but, > ..... it really looks like this is turning out better than we could have > ask for. > > http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/tenday/USKY1096 > > > > Don't forget for anyone driving in gas cans and beer are premium at > Rough River. > > > > > Here is the schedule I sent out last week. > > > Friday we have supper scheduled at 6:P Central. It's in the room > sectioned off from the regular restaurant. > > Saturday breakfast at 8:30AM in the same room with meeting to follow. > Meeting moves to the flight line at no scheduled time. Weather > permitting flying will commence with lots of cowl pulling and > interesting talk. We will also have the airport lounge and the porch > area to use. Lunch can happen anytime individually. > > Meeting room scheduled for a 5:P supper. We can stay or head back to the > runway for more flying and conversation. > > Lets all pray for the big high pressure over America and having safe > travel for all. > > Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush. > > > >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Lates Attendees: > >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Jeff & Mary Buhrans - N55XS Flying Baby Blue in. >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Jeff & Karen Roberts - N128LJ Gold Rush Flyi ng In >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Troy & Donna Maynor - Flying his brand new M ono Classic ;o).. >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Jim & Lynne Puglise - Driving the air condit ioned control >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- tower, beer bar, meeting place/motor home. ; o) >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- John & Susan Lawton - N245E Flying his Jab p owered Europa >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Bob & Maureen Borger N914XL Flying In from T exas in... Little >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Dragon Lady. >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Paul McAllister... N378PJ Back in the countr y and getting new >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- cowl mods ready. >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Jim & Heather Butcher - Flying in >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Bud Yearly - N12AY Flying in... Yea Bud! >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Jim Brown - N398JB - AKA JimBob. Flying up w ith Bud in >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- formation. Keep em separate boys! >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- John & Paddy Wigney - Flying in the good shi p N262WF >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Jim Woolnough - Via the big iron and driving from Louisville. >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Creighton Smith A-036 - Via the big iron wit h Jim... Welcome >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- aboard mates! >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Great to have the west coast boys. >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Bob Lindsay - Flying in N77EU Turbo Toy. Fli ght of 3 maybe 4 >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Erich Trombley - Flying in N28ET Classic mon o 914. Flight of 3 >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- maybe 4 >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Kim Prout - Flying in N111EU The classic mon o featured in July >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Kit Planes Magazine Flight of 3 maybe 4 >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- And Here's to Kevin Klinefelter N211KA getti ng in on the fun!! >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Let us know Kevin when you can... Maybe the 4th of the 3 ;0) >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Fred Kline.... All the way from Orcas Island , WA >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- William McCellan Building A164 XS convention al gear Jab. >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Flying the big iron with Fred. >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- Michael Grass Building A286 Tri-gear. Flying in from Detroit >> =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- in his C -150 Welcome Michael! > > > > Annual Rough River Fly In. September 17th & 18th 2010 and beyond! > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > =========== =========== MS - =========== e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. ===========


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    Time: 12:36:48 PM PST US
    From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Any Europa's based/near Gloucestershire Airport, Staverton,
    Cheltenham? At 2010-09-14 12:21 -0400 Peter Zutrauen wrote: >I ask because I'm finding myself on a likely biz trip in that area >on the first two weeks of November, - and would love to gawk at some >finished Europa's for some inspiration. :-) Peter - I have an UNfinished one nearby, but there are several flying examples in the area - Tim Houlihan's G-BZTH, David Joyce's G-XSDJ, Bruce Morris's G-CEMI for instance. I think they all usually monitor this list but may be offline at present. Contact me off-list if you want to get in touch with any of them. in friendship Rowland -- | Rowland Carson ... that's Rowland with a 'w' ... | <rowlandcarson@gmail.com> http://www.rowlandcarson.org.uk | Skype, Twitter: rowland_carson Facebook: Rowland Carson | pictures: http://picasaweb.google.com/rowlandcarson


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    Time: 12:41:21 PM PST US
    From: "Steven Pitt" <steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: Re: RR Update # 18 (more or less)
    To Jim, Lynne and all attendees of Rough River. Have a great time and have a beer on us. The European contingent is setting off for Texel Island, North Holland tomorrow morning for the weekend so we will be thinking of you - hopefully about 20 plus Europas if the weather assists. I think your weather may well be better than ours. Regards to one and all. Steve Pitt G-SMDH ----- Original Message ----- From: jimpuglise@comcast.net To: Europa List Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:58 PM Subject: Europa-List: RR Update # 18 (more or less) Lynne and I arrived last night. On the way we stopped at the Jack Daniels Distillery for a tour and picked up a fifth of "Gentleman Jack" which will be avialable. We also got 2 cases of beer and a case of softdrinks, so that end is covered. Local weather is expected to be good. There were a few light showers last night and a few are predicted today, but Friday, Saturday and Sunday should be good. We will have the RV at the airport and can get arrivals to the lodge for sign-in, so everything looks good for a wonderful weekend. The phone and internet services are not particularly good, so don't expect to communicate much. The wi-fi is good at the lodge, but, as I recall, marginal in the rooms See everyone tomorrow (Friday) and Saturday. Jim Puglise A-283 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D


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    Time: 01:50:48 PM PST US
    From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
    Subject: FAA Special Certificate of Airworthiness
    U.S. "Europeans", After a lengthy appeal process, I have prevailed in a test case against the Norwegian CAA. Our Department of Transportation (DoT) has ruled that in accordance with Norwegian law and regulations, a Special Airworthiness Certificate shall be issued to my Experimental class aircraft for regular operation, not a Permit To Fly which the CAA began issuing two years ago for all Experimentals in Norway. In order to have a well proven and tried certificate from another country as comparison when I receive the new document, I would be very grateful if one of you in the U.S. could scan and e-mail to me a copy of your aircraft's Special Certificate of Airworthiness. Tail number and name/address can be deleted, but all other information should appear on the copy - particularly any special provisions or limitations that may have been inserted by the FAA. I may share the copy with the board of the Norwegian chapter of EAA, possibly also with officials of our CAA and DoT. Regards, Svein LN-SKJ


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    Time: 02:54:29 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Michel and friends, I have several hundred pictures of the process that I will have to high-grade for posting on my web site. I have selected a few of the final pictures here: I don't have any pictures of the nose gear installation. I did go with the big metal springs rather than the bungee cord for the nose wheel. Nor do I have installation pictures of the flap drive mechanism or new brake master cylinder. I'll have to take some pictures of these when I go back out to the hanger to complete all the work and get the aircraft flying again. For what it's worth, the reason for the conversion was a ground loop on takeoff. Broke the outrigger mounts on both sides and had a prop strike. The monowheel is just too sensitive on hard surface runways. It's wonderful on turf. A dream to land and take off. But on concrete it's a witch. I had been flying early in the morning two days in a row before the incident. Light winds, (runway 17, winds 0-7 kts variable 170 - 210 degrees) great for practice. No problems at all. On this day, the winds were still 0-7 kts from 170 - 210 and forecast to remain that way till after 1500 hrs local. The pattern was full of training planes. I made one takeoff and landing, no problem. All landings in the monowheel have been full stop, no touch and goes, so I had taxied back to the north end of the runway and waited for a break in the training traffic so I could take off. When the break came, I taxied out onto the runway and checked the wind sock, still light and about 210 degrees. I advanced the throttle slowly and the aircraft accelerated well, at 40 indicated I raised the tail and the aircraft started sliding across the runway sideways while turning to the right. I corrected the heading with some left rudder but before the aircraft was ready to actually fly, the left outrigger got into the grass and mud and turned me into a ground loop. Pretty bad at 40 kts. Damage to both outrigger mounts and a prop strike. Seems that after I taxied out and applied throttle the winds shifted to 16 G 20 from 270 degrees. The monowheel couldn't handle those winds. Literally blew the aircraft off the runway into the long grass and mud. What a mess. Having had a number of these excursion into the grass over the last year, mostly on landing, mostly due to excessive cross winds. I decided that I had an aircraft that was of EXTREMELY limited utility. Only safe to fly on nearly dead calm mornings and nothing else. Sure couldn't plan cross country flying since you never know what winds you'll find at the destination. And in the U.S.A. public turf runways are very rare. You are always landing on hard surface. So, I decided to convert to tri-gear to try and get a more utilitarian aircraft. This is not a trivial conversion. Go to the Europa site and download the builders manual sections on the Tri-Gear installation to get an idea what is involved. It's a LOT of work and setup and jigging and some of the most miserable glass layups ever. Installing the flap drive is UGLY. Took 17 days working 9 - 12 hrs a day with the help of Bud Yearly and his two sons (they have done about a dozen of these conversions) at Custom Flight Creations to complete the basic conversion and repair the wings. And I still have another couple months of work to do in the hanger to get N914XL flying again. But, I'll have a much more usable aircraft in the end. If you have any questions about the conversion please don't hesitate to ask them. I'll answer as best I can. Best regards, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Tri-gear, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232 http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046 Europa Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Sep 15, 2010, at 1:02, mau11 wrote: > Hi all, > Does anyone have pictures of this conversion? > > Mainly, main gear adaptation and fixation. > > Thanks


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    Time: 07:35:24 PM PST US
    From: Luc Michaud <rambug@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Ontario, CA Fly-in (for those not doing RR).
    Hello guys, I'm planning on driving over from Montreal to the fly-in on Saturday. Will be in around 9h00 for breakfast. Are there going to be any Europa's flying in ? I'm quite eager to meet som e of you guys, as A059 (soon to become C-GLOB) needs to go through MD-RA import inspection soon. Regards, Luc On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 19:16, david miller <loboloda@execulink.com> wrote: > Hi Pete, > > Chris had suggested that we come down for this. > Would be for the day on Friday or Saturday, and very much depends on the > weather. > Will probably just bring one of the aircraft. > > Dave > do not archive > On 31-Aug-10, at 7:59 AM, Peter Zutrauen wrote: > > Just thought I'd let any folks in the North American North-East (who are > not attending the Rough-River fly-in) of: > > WINGS OVER GATINEAU, > CANADA=91S FIRST EAA FLY-IN! > > Mark your calendars for the first Canadian National EAA Fly-in! Septembe r > 17 through 19. Canadians will have the opportunity to take part in the > inaugural EAA fly-in in the Nation's Capital. September 18 is Vintage Wi ngs > of Canada=91s Victoria Cross Airshow. This yearly event draws hundreds o f > aircraft and spectators. This year will feature, among other aircraft, > their Goodyear FG-1D Corsair in honour of the Victoria Cross posthumous > recipient, Lt.Robert Hampton Gray. This date also coincides with the Bat tle > of Britain celebration held at Rockcliffe on September 19. Flying aircra ft > will include the =94Merlins=91; Canadian Warplane Heritage Museum=91s Lan caster, > Spitfires, Hurricanes, and perhaps Russell=91s Bf 109 Messerschmitt. > > So tentative plans include Vintage Wings Victoria Cross Airshow together > with a tour of the Vintage Wings collection of pristine warbirds, and > collector=91s aircraft at Gatineau; a bussing excursion to Rockcliffe for the > Battle of Britain celebration and re-enactment; a tour of the Canada > Aviation and Space Museum; all together with the camaraderie and making of > friends from across the nation that is expected from an EAA Fly-in. > > Aircraft parking and camping with showers, etc., Plus camping and parkin g > for the wheeled variety of RV=91s will make the visit comfortable and > convenient. Local EAA Chapter 245 and a newly formed EAA Warbird Squadro n > will host the fly-in. NavCan will declare the airspace as Class F with > arriving and departing aircraft under air traffic control. Transponders are > not required, but radio communications will be. Plans include a giant B- B-Q > on Friday night hosted by Vintage Wings, breakfast on Saturday morning > hosted by EAA Chapter 245, and a sit-down dinner with French Canadian > cuisine and live entertainment in the theme of the events on Saturday > evening. Breakfast on Sunday morning will also be available. > > So check off these attractions: the sight and sounds of these magnificen t > aircraft; Vintage Wings=91salute to the Victoria Cross winners with thei r > annual airshow; EAA playing a supportive role to the event with our firs t > Canadian Fly-in; the battle of Britain re-enactment; the Canada Aviatio n > and Space Museum; the camaraderie of aviation enthusiasts; airplanes; ou r > unique cultural diversity; fantastic fall colours; Frenchcuisine. > What=91snot to like? > > Links: > > Arrival Procedures and schedule: > http://www.vintagewings.ca/envol/ > - Hide quoted text - > > Event Description (starts @ minute number 36) in the EAA video: > http://www.eaavideo.org/video.aspx?v=595033254001 > > > Cheers, > Pete :-) > A239 > EAA245 chapter member > > * > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matron ics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c ontribution > * > > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >




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