---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 09/19/10: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:42 AM - Oz. (Richard Iddon) 2. 12:55 AM - Re: Europa-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 09/18/10 (Go Flying) 3. 01:42 AM - Re: Messages from ~GS (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 4. 02:09 AM - SV: Messages from ~GS (Kjell) 5. 02:35 AM - Re: SV: Messages from ~GS (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 6. 02:36 AM - Re: Messages from ~GS (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 7. 07:28 AM - SV: SV: Messages from ~GS (Kjell) 8. 07:55 AM - Re: SV: SV: Messages from ~GS (rampil) 9. 12:06 PM - Top fuselage- rear flange gap problem (jglazener) 10. 06:47 PM - Rough River (Troy Maynor) 11. 07:27 PM - Re: Rough River (Robert Borger) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:19 AM PST US From: "Richard Iddon" Subject: Europa-List: Oz. Hi Guys, I am presently in Australia and will be driving down the east coast from Bundaberg to Melbourne over the next couple of months. Would be interested in meeting up with any Europa builders / fliers whom we might be passing on the way. Please email me off forum at riddon@sent.com Richard Iddon Xs tri G-RIXS ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:55:25 AM PST US From: "Go Flying" Subject: Europa-List: RE: Europa-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 09/18/10 I have decided to unsubscribe to the Matronics lists, there is nearly no traffic and no content to red. Chris Norman, CEO www.digitalrealitycorp.com owner www.goflying.co -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa-List Digest Server Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2010 1:58 AM Subject: Europa-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 09/18/10 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Europa-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Europa-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 10-09-18&Archive=Europa Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2010-09-18&Archive=Europa =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 09/18/10: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:52 AM - Re: Carb drip trays? (JonSmith) 2. 02:53 AM - Re: Throttle cables (JonSmith) 3. 07:04 AM - Carb drip trays? (Guerner Remi) 4. 11:01 AM - Messages from ~GS (Frank Mycroft) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:52:57 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Carb drip trays? From: "JonSmith" Many thanks for the advice, much appreciated - especially those who have told me the Rotax drip trays don't fit with the carb heaters fitted - you've saved me quite a few quid!! Jon -------- G-TERN Classic Mono Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312822#312822 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:54 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Throttle cables From: "JonSmith" Thanks for the advice, much appreciated. Jon -------- G-TERN Classic Mono Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312823#312823 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:04:56 AM PST US From: Guerner Remi Subject: Europa-List: Carb drip trays? John, There are two reasons for drip trays: 1. shielding the heat radiated by the exhaust pipes which may cause the fuel to boil in the carb bowls. 2. allowing fuel possibly leaking form the carbs to be drained below the engine, instead of being ignited by the red hot exhaust. Although the normally aspirated 912 and 912S carbs usually do not leak (unlike the 914's which are leaking almost all the time due to the boost pressure) I think it is good practice to have drip trays installed that insure these two functions. However I do not recommand to install the Rotax drip trays which bolt to the carb rubber flange as: 1. They de not fit with the hot coolant carb heat system 2. They do not allow to remove the carb bowl for inspection unless you remove the carbs, making servicing more time consuming. One solution is to make your own aluminum drip trays and have them bolted to the airbox using anchor nuts for easy removal. Hope that helps. Remi > Is it considered to be either a/ mandatory, b/ highly recommended, > c/ quite nice > to do, or d/ totally unnecessary, to fit drip trays/ heat shields to > the Rotax > carbs? ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:01:03 AM PST US From: "Frank Mycroft" Subject: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS I have exactly the same problems with GS messages. Frank ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:42:38 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS Is this any better? Different?=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________ ___________=0AFrom: Frank Mycroft =0ATo: europa-list@matr onics.com=0ASent: Saturday, 18 September, 2010 16:43:34=0ASubject: Europa-L ist: Messages from ~GS=0A=0A =0AI have exactly the same problems with GS m ==================== =0A ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:25 AM PST US From: "Kjell" Subject: SV: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS It=92s good OK Kjell S -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] F=F6r GRAHAM SINGLETON Skickat: den 19 september 2010 10:37 Till: europa-list@matronics.com =C4mne: Re: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS Is this any better? Different? Graham _____ From: Frank Mycroft Sent: Saturday, 18 September, 2010 16:43:34 Subject: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS I have exactly the same problems with GS messages. Frank ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:35:43 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: SV: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS Thanks but is it different?=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________ ________=0AFrom: Kjell =0ATo: europa-list@matron ics.com=0ASent: Sunday, 19 September, 2010 10:06:35=0ASubject: SV: Europa-L ist: Messages from ~GS=0A=0A =0AIt=99s good=0AOK=0AKjell S=0A =0A---- -Ursprungligt meddelande-----=0AFr=C3=A5n: owner-europa-list-server@matroni cs.com =0A[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] F=C3=B6r GRAHAM S INGLETON=0ASkickat: den 19 september 2010 10:37=0ATill: europa-list@matroni cs.com=0A=C3=84mne: Re: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS=0A =0AIs this any be tter? Different?=0AGraham=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0A =0AF rom:Frank Mycroft =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent : Saturday, 18 September, 2010 16:43:34=0ASubject: Europa-List: Messages fr om ~GS=0AI have exactly the same problems with GS messages.=0A =0AFrank=0A =0A =0Ahttp://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List=0Ahttp://forums.matro ====== =0A ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:12 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS BTW I don't use Outlook exploder or Thunderbird now, just BT Yahoo web mail , =0Acould that be the cause of the problems?=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______ __________________________=0AFrom: GRAHAM SINGLETON =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sunday, 19 September, 201 0 9:37:15=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS=0A=0A=0AIs this any better? Different?=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________ =0AFrom: Frank Mycroft =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Saturday, 18 September, 2010 16:43:34=0ASubject: Europa-List: Mess ages from ~GS=0A=0A =0AI have exactly the same problems with GS messages. =0A =0AFrank=0Ahttp://www.matronics.c============ ==================== =0A ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 07:28:09 AM PST US From: "Kjell" Subject: SV: SV: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS It=92s very ordinary, see the copy of your message. =93Thanks but is it different? Graham=94 Kjell S -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] F=F6r GRAHAM SINGLETON Skickat: den 19 september 2010 11:32 Till: europa-list@matronics.com =C4mne: Re: SV: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS Thanks but is it different? Graham _____ From: Kjell Sent: Sunday, 19 September, 2010 10:06:35 Subject: SV: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS It=92s good OK Kjell S -----Ursprungligt meddelande----- Fr=E5n: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] F=F6r GRAHAM SINGLETON Skickat: den 19 september 2010 10:37 Till: europa-list@matronics.com =C4mne: Re: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS Is this any better? Different? Graham _____ From: Frank Mycroft Sent: Saturday, 18 September, 2010 16:43:34 Subject: Europa-List: Messages from ~GS I have exactly the same problems with GS messages. Frank http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://forums.matronics.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://====================== ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 07:55:48 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: SV: SV: Messages from ~GS From: "rampil" These issues with incompatible EMail systems would cease if everyone used the direct access to the list instead of EMail. This has many advantages as you will see by trying it out. The list is at forums.matronics.com where you can read all the threaded messages. To post new messages you need to sign up for a free login. Cheers, Ira -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312915#312915 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 12:06:40 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Top fuselage- rear flange gap problem From: "jglazener" I am trying to get my top fuselage to fit to the bottom. This is a necessity for most before bonding it on, but since I need to incorporate a Hi-top mod, it is even more important to get it right before I start cutting it into pieces. I find that even with the front flanges aligned to those in the firewall, and the trimline on the back of the tail lined up with the end of the fuselage, I still have a gap at the rear flanges of 9-10 mm (see attached). If I then raise the front fuselage as per mod 64B it only gets worse, with some 11mm at the bottom. Is this normal? If not, what can I do about it? Suggestions welcome, Jeroen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312941#312941 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/19092010483_727.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:59 PM PST US From: "Troy Maynor" Subject: Europa-List: Rough River Hi All, Just wanted to say we had a wonderful time at Rough River. Not sure what the official count was but I think I counted 12 Europas and close to 30 folks. Someone correct me. I know this isn't exact. Wish we could have had more time to look closer at all the planes. It seems I ran out of time to chat with everyone like I would have liked. The weather was beautiful (and hot). Donna and I had a easy and safe flight home. Can't wait til next year! I'll post pix soon. Troy Maynor ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:27:15 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Rough River From: Robert Borger Troy & All, I'll second it all. Maureen and I had a great time. I'll concur with your numbers as they seem pretty close. Sure was nice to be able to put faces with names after all these building years. Lots of crawling all over beautiful Europas and some excellent information and discussion sessions. We are already making plans to be there again next year. Only next year we'll be flying instead of driving! Pix to be posted in a week or so. Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Tri-gear, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232 http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046 Europa Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Sep 19, 2010, at 20:43, Troy Maynor wrote: > Hi All, > Just wanted to say we had a wonderful time at Rough River. > Not sure what the official count was but I think I counted 12 Europas and close to 30 folks. Someone correct me. I know this isn't exact. > Wish we could have had more time to look closer at all the planes. It seems I ran out of time to chat with everyone like I would have liked. The weather was beautiful (and hot). > Donna and I had a easy and safe flight home. Can't wait til next year! I'll post pix soon. > Troy Maynor > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.