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Wed 09/22/10


Total Messages Posted: 8



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     1. 01:07 AM - Re: DOTH Fenland Wed. 22nd. (G-IANI)
     2. 02:59 AM - Low voltage (Frank Mycroft)
     3. 06:04 AM - Re: Re: Rough River, west coast boys (Kevin Klinefelter)
     4. 07:03 AM - Re: Re: Top fuselage- rear flange gap problem (David Joyce)
     5. 08:02 AM - RR highlight (Fred Klein)
     6. 08:59 AM - Re: RR highlight (Peter Zutrauen)
     7. 12:15 PM - Re: Top fuselage- rear flange gap problem (Troy Maynor)
     8. 01:42 PM - Re: Low voltage (david miller)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:07:24 AM PST US
    From: "G-IANI" <g-iani@ntlworld.com>
    Subject: DOTH Fenland Wed. 22nd.
    G-IANI plans to be there Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours Europa Club Mods Specialist e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com


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    Time: 02:59:02 AM PST US
    From: "Frank Mycroft" <frankm@clara.net>
    Subject: Low voltage
    Dave There is a piece in the Safety Spot in Septembers Light Aviation about the same problem (though the answer may not be the same). Go to http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/2010/Magazine/2010/Sep/Safety.p df and look at the Himax article. In that case the problem was neither the battery nor the regulator/rectifier. Frank


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    Time: 06:04:48 AM PST US
    From: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gotsky.com>
    Subject: Re: Rough River, west coast boys
    Troy, After we left RR Sunday we stayed the night in Ponca City,OK (KPNC). We were greeted by the Mayor and given the keys to the mini van and club house! Monday we called it quits in Winslow, AZ (KINW) where the fuel guy said "you did'nt hear it from me, but if you look under the floor mat of the old blue station wagon you'll find the keys". We had some great laughs cruising route 66 in our '81 Reliant wagon. So we did add a couple days to our RR 2010 Europa adventure! Kevin > Guys, > That's quite an adventure going that far. Where did you stop for the night > if you don't mind me asking? As a result of this trip, other trips, like > to the beach or Florida to visit relatives just got a lot closer. Can't > wait til next year. We need to add another day to the RR visit. > Troy and Donna


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    Time: 07:03:51 AM PST US
    From: "David Joyce" <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
    Subject: Re: Top fuselage- rear flange gap problem
    Jeroen, I guess that is why UK permit aircraft have the same mechanical accident rate as certified aircraft, whilst US rates are 3 times higher. I am pretty sure there are set industry standards as to how much overlap you need to provide full strength at a joint. There are a lot of things of consequence that my inspector taught me, such as getting just the right degree of wetness when laying up glass (to give optimal strength and lightness) and the critical importance of sanding very thoroughly any surfaces you are going to bond. If you can find a glider repair firm in your part of the world it might be worth asking there for a bit of direction. Best of luck, David ----- Original Message ----- From: "jglazener" <j.glazener@planet.nl> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2010 3:15 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Top fuselage- rear flange gap problem > > David, > Thanks for the reply. I am already feeling a bit better. As for the > inspector, we don't really have them in Holland. Everything is based on > the principle of self inspection. I do have someone assigned to me, but he > is building a wooden plane, and just signed off on my workshop. Sounds > easy, but to be honest I would much prefer the UK system, where you have > someone you can actually fall back on. Luckily I have the forum.... > > Regards, Jeroen > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313035#313035 > > >


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    Time: 08:02:02 AM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: RR highlight
    One of the highlights for me of the fly-in occurred at the very end with the departure of the west coasters in a flight of 3...Kevin K., Kim P., and Erich T. Following an offset/staggered formation take off (which would have compared favorably to any ANG F-16 gaggle), they had agreed to a request for a high speed low pass which would be captured digitally for posterity. Taking a wide pattern, they were seen joining up in a gentle climb...the minutes ticked by...photographers out on the runway readied their cameras. First seen as specks, they descended and accellerated...yes, it would be a LOW pass indeed. As they approached...3 monowheels, LG tucked, at (seemingly) WOT, they were nonetheless whisper-quiet...and gradually observers could hear the increasing whine of the 914s. The harmonics of multiple engines were audible and which quickly became a roar. One photographer was taken back to a time at Oshkosh when he experienced a symphony of Merlins during a fly by of Kermit Weeks' Mosquito bomber and the synchronized Allisons of a P-38 Lightning... (you had to have been there). The photographer became lost in his reverie. And in a split second they were overhead...and they were gone...climbing into the sun, and heading home. Alas...the photographer has decided to keep his day job...


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    Time: 08:59:31 AM PST US
    From: Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Subject: Re: RR highlight
    Photos & (hopefully) video please! :-) that vid would fantastic on Youtube! Cheers, Pete A239 On Wed, Sep 22, 2010 at 10:25 AM, Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> wrote: > > One of the highlights for me of the fly-in occurred at the very end with > the departure of the west coasters in a flight of 3...Kevin K., Kim P., and > Erich T. > > Following an offset/staggered formation take off (which would have compared > favorably to any ANG F-16 gaggle), they had agreed to a request for a high > speed low pass which would be captured digitally for posterity. > > Taking a wide pattern, they were seen joining up in a gentle climb...the > minutes ticked by...photographers out on the runway readied their cameras. > > First seen as specks, they descended and accellerated...yes, it would be a > LOW pass indeed. As they approached...3 monowheels, LG tucked, at > (seemingly) WOT, they were nonetheless whisper-quiet...and gradually > observers could hear the increasing whine of the 914s. The harmonics of > multiple engines were audible and which quickly became a roar. > > One photographer was taken back to a time at Oshkosh when he experienced a > symphony of Merlins during a fly by of Kermit Weeks' Mosquito bomber and the > synchronized Allisons of a P-38 Lightning...(you had to have been there). > The photographer became lost in his reverie. > > And in a split second they were overhead...and they were gone...climbing > into the sun, and heading home. > > > Alas...the photographer has decided to keep his day job... > >


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    Time: 12:15:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Top fuselage- rear flange gap problem
    From: "Troy Maynor" <wingnut54@charter.net>
    Jeroen, Check that the firewall is not warped forward at the top edge. Mine was and caused the joggle gap at the rear to be too large. I drilled a 1/4" hole at the center of the firewall, threaded an eye bolt thru it and a 2"x4", tied the bolt off to a stick placed in the head rests, to hold it straight up while getting the top molding fitted. Over the course of building, removing and replacing the top for trial fitting things, it became straight as it should before actually bonding the top on. Hope this was relevant to your question. If not, my apologies. Troy Maynor Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313412#313412


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    Time: 01:42:51 PM PST US
    From: david miller <loboloda@execulink.com>
    Subject: Re: Low voltage
    Thanks Frank, So many causes of electrical problems ! I charged my battery today, went to about 13V, but then as I held the voltmeter on the reading slowly began to decrease, working it's way down to the previously indicated 11.6V I'm presuming this is a battery in need of replacement. Dave On 22-Sep-10, at 5:27 AM, Frank Mycroft wrote: > Dave > > There is a piece in the Safety Spot in Septembers Light Aviation > about the same problem (though the answer may not be the same). Go > to http://www.lightaircraftassociation.co.uk/2010/Magazine/2010/Sep/ > Safety.pdf and look at the Himax article. In that case the problem > was neither the battery nor the regulator/rectifier. > > Frank > >




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