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     1. 12:19 AM - Re: FW: G-GIDY (PHILLIPS I)
     2. 12:37 AM - Re: the eternal engine debate (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     3. 01:25 AM - Re: FW: G-GIDY (Richard Wheelwright)
     4. 06:15 AM - Re: LR Tank Pump (Kevin Klinefelter)
     5. 06:24 AM - Re: the eternal engine debate (William Daniell)
     6. 06:45 AM - Re: Engine discounts (Bill & Sue)
     7. 07:12 AM - Re: G-GIDY (Troy Maynor)
     8. 11:26 AM - Re: FW: G-GIDY (Europa)
     9. 11:41 AM - Re: FW: G-GIDY (Bud Yerly)
    10. 01:09 PM - Re: FW: G-GIDY (neveyre@aol.co.uk)
    11. 01:47 PM - Re: FW: G-GIDY (Europa)
 
 
 
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      Very well done Paul she looks beautiful, you can now look forward to many
      years
      of flying a well engineered and carefully constructed aircraft,
      Hope to see you at some fly in next year,
      
      congratulations
      
      Ivor
      
      On 4 October 2010 23:30, Brian Davies <brian.davies@clara.co.uk> wrote:
      
      > brian.davies@clara.co.uk>
      >
      > Well worth the wait, Paul.
      >
      > If the pictures are anything to go by, you have a cracking machine to Fly.
      > Many congratulations .
      >
      > Usual questions for the database:
      >
      > Details of the test pilot
      > Empty weight
      > Estimated total build hours
      > First flight airfield
      > + anything else you want recording.
      >
      > Best regards
      >
      > Brian Davies, The Europa Club
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa
      > Sent: 04 October 2010 21:14
      > To: europa-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Europa-List: FW: G-GIDY
      >
      >
      > G-GIDY took to the air for the first time today.
      >
      > A mere 12 1/2 years in the making (500 hours eh!!).
      >
      > Went up with test pilot Paul for the 2nd (1 hour) flight - what a
      > privilege.
      >
      > To anyone who has helped us with a query over the years many many thanks.
      >
      > Particular thanks to Graham and Neil.  Here's a couple of pics
      >
      > Regards
      >
      > Paul Stewart
      > G-GIDY
      >
      > ------ End of Forwarded Message
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: the eternal engine debate | 
      
      Will. I just remember the awful vibration that the BMW twin caused. Also th
      e =0Adevelopment time will be extensive=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____________
      ____________________=0AFrom: William Daniell <wdaniell@etb.net.co>=0ATo: "e
      uropa-list@matronics.com" <europa-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Tuesday, 5 Oc
      tober, 2010 1:34:25=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: the eternal engine debate
      t.co>=0A=0AWell for me at 8500 ft it makes more power than a 912s and is ha
      lf the price of =0Aa 914.....=0A------Original Message------=0AFrom: Jeff B
      =0ASender: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com=0ATo: europa-list@matroni
      cs.com=0AReplyTo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: the
       eternal engine debate=0ASent: Oct 4, 2010 17:05=0A=0A--> Europa-List messa
      ge posted by: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net>=0A=0AWill,=0A=0AOther than price, I
       don't understand the attraction.  80hp with turbo=0Aand ? if the turbo sho
      uld fail.  500hrs TBO?  That's 4 engines for the=0ATBO on a 912ULS.  Hmmmmm
      m.=0A=0AJeff Baby Blue=0A=0AOn 10/4/2010 4:23 PM, William Daniell wrote:=0A
      =0A>=0A> Does anyone thing this is viable?=0A>=0A> http://www.apsu-hks.com/
      HKS_APSU_-_HKS_700T.html=0A> or=0A> http://www.greenskyadventures.com/Engin
      ePricing/HKS/700T-vs-912Rotax.html=0A>=0A> it is only 80hp BUT it is turbo 
      and claims excellent fuel consumption.=0A> Maybe at USD16,500 maybe it is w
      orth consideration.=0A>=0A> Will=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A> Checked by AVG
      ===
      
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      Paul,=0A-- Congratulation!!! =0A=0AI visited you to collect your well m
      ade Fuselage Trolley. It as served me well =0Atoo. And is available to a-
      new home,-Free, Just collect It, if any one wants it. =0A=0A-=0A==
      ===================0A=0AThank You=0ARic
      hard Wheelwright=0A=0A=================
      ====0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: PHILLIPS I
       <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tue, 
      5 October, 2010 8:08:48=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: FW: G-GIDY=0A=0A=0AVery
       well done Paul she looks beautiful, you can now look forward to many years
       =0Aof flying a well engineered and carefully constructed aircraft,=0AHope 
      to see you at some fly in next year,=0A=0Acongratulations=0A=0AIvor=0A=0A
      =0AOn 4 October 2010 23:30, Brian Davies <brian.davies@clara.co.uk> wrote:
      .co.uk>=0A>=0A>Well worth the wait, Paul.=0A>=0A>If the pictures are anythi
      ng to go by, you have a cracking machine to Fly.=0A>Many congratulations .
      =0A>=0A>Usual questions for the database:=0A>=0A>Details of the test pilot
      =0A>Empty weight=0A>Estimated total build hours=0A>First flight airfield=0A
      >+ anything else you want recording.=0A>=0A>Best regards=0A>=0A>Brian Davie
      s, The Europa Club=0A>=0A>=0A>-----Original Message-----=0A>From: owner-eur
      opa-list-server@matronics.com=0A>[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics
      .com] On Behalf Of Europa=0A>Sent: 04 October 2010 21:14=0A>=0A>To: europa-
      list@matronics.com=0A>=0A>Subject: Europa-List: FW: G-GIDY=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
      =0A>G-GIDY took to the air for the first time today.=0A>=0A>A mere 12 1/2 y
      ears in the making (500 hours eh!!).=0A>=0A>Went up with test pilot Paul fo
      r the 2nd (1 hour) flight - what a privilege.=0A>=0A>To anyone who has help
      ed us with a query over the years many many thanks.=0A>=0A>Particular thank
      s to Graham and Neil. -Here's a couple of pics=0A>=0A>Regards=0A>=0A>Paul
       Stewart=0A>G-GIDY=0A>=0A>------ End of Forwarded Message=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
      =0A>ubscription,=0A>www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List" =0A>target="
      _blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List=0A>ronics.com/" targ
      et="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com=0A>Matt Dralle, List Admin.=0A>
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| Subject:  | Re: LR Tank Pump | 
      
      
      Hi Jim and Heather,
      That's a nice looking pump installation.
      How do you know when the fuel transfer has been completed?
      I would like a simple way being notified that the pump has run dry and the 
      fuel transfer complete. As you said, I time it, and also look back at the 
      clear hose and see air bubbles, but I have to remember !
      So the pump you are useing does not mind running dry, how will you tell when 
      transfer is complete?
      By the way, at RR and on the way back to CA I took the LR tank out and went 
      to the local gas station for auto fuel. I can reinstall the 10 gallon tank 
      by myself, not too bad.
      It sure was nice to meet you folks at RR.
      
      Kevin 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: the eternal engine debate | 
      
        Good point -  would make it a 20 year build instead of a 10 year build.
      
      yes I fear that the most sensible option is the tried and trusted Rotax 
      91X!  I am the proud owner of a 912 turbo in a zenith clone and i have 
      to say it has served me well for 250 hours....
      
      Will
      
      On 05-Oct-10 02:17, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
      > Will. I just remember the awful vibration that the BMW twin caused. 
      > Also the development time will be extensive
      > Graham
      >
      > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
      > *From:* William Daniell <wdaniell@etb.net.co>
      > *To:* "europa-list@matronics.com" <europa-list@matronics.com>
      > *Sent:* Tuesday, 5 October, 2010 1:34:25
      > *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: the eternal engine debate
      >
      > <wdaniell@etb.net.co <mailto:wdaniell@etb.net.co>>
      >
      > Well for me at 8500 ft it makes more power than a 912s and is half the 
      > price of a 914.....
      > ------Original Message------
      > From: Jeff B
      > Sender: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
      > <mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com>
      > To: europa-list@matronics.com <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
      > ReplyTo: europa-list@matronics.com <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
      > Subject: Re: Europa-List: the eternal engine debate
      > Sent: Oct 4, 2010 17:05
      >
      > <mailto:topglock@cox.net>>
      >
      > Will,
      >
      > Other than price, I don't understand the attraction.  80hp with turbo
      > and ? if the turbo should fail.  500hrs TBO?  That's 4 engines for the
      > TBO on a 912ULS.  Hmmmmmm.
      >
      > Jeff Baby Blue
      >
      > On 10/4/2010 4:23 PM, William Daniell wrote:
      > <wdaniell@etb.net.co <mailto:wdaniell@etb.net.co>>
      > >
      > > Does anyone thing this is viable?
      > >
      > > http://www.apsu-hks.com/HKS_APSU_-_HKS_700T.html
      > > or
      > > 
      > http://www.greenskyadventures.com/EnginePricing/HKS/700T-vs-912Rotax.html
      > >
      > > it is only 80hp BUT it is turbo and claims excellent fuel consumption.
      > > Maybe at USD16,500 maybe it is worth consideration.
      > >
      > > Will
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com 
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| Subject:  | Re: Engine discounts | 
      
      
      I'm afraid that looks like the new 'lower' prices already -I now have the alarming
      feeling that the most valuable thing I own is a half-finished aeroplane!
      
      Cheers
      
      Bill
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314785#314785
      
      
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      Paul, 
      Very well done! I know how you felt having recently done my first flight in April
      after a very long build, over 10 years, off and on. Now the fun begins. Beautiful
      aircraft indeed. You should be very proud. This should be inspiration for
      those still building to get cracking and get 'er dun! Can't wait to see some
      more pix, (of the cockpit). 
      Troy Maynor
      N120EU
      65 hours so far
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314791#314791
      
      
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      To all   Thanks for all the kind comments. Just done 2 hr endurance flight
      today. Minor issues mainly with Blue Mountain EFIS. Airframe and engine
      sweet as a nut.
      
      
      Brian - some other details:
      
      G-GIDY  Europa XS monowheel
      
      Rotax 914
      
      Airmaster CS prop
      
      Empty weight 884 lb  (sorry Graham we tried)
      
      Estimated build time 2500 - 3000 hours
      
      Test pilot Paul Jones
      
      First flight field  Derby UK
      
      
      Regards
      
      Paul
      
      
      On 4/10/10 23:30, "Brian Davies" <brian.davies@clara.co.uk> wrote:
      
      > 
      > Well worth the wait, Paul.
      > 
      > If the pictures are anything to go by, you have a cracking machine to Fly.
      > Many congratulations .
      > 
      > Usual questions for the database:
      > 
      > Details of the test pilot
      > Empty weight
      > Estimated total build hours
      > First flight airfield
      > + anything else you want recording.
      > 
      > Best regards
      > 
      > Brian Davies, The Europa Club
      > 
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa
      > Sent: 04 October 2010 21:14
      > To: europa-list@matronics.com
      > Subject: Europa-List: FW: G-GIDY
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > G-GIDY took to the air for the first time today.
      > 
      > A mere 12 1/2 years in the making (500 hours eh!!).
      > 
      > Went up with test pilot Paul for the 2nd (1 hour) flight - what a privilege.
      > 
      > To anyone who has helped us with a query over the years many many thanks.
      > 
      > Particular thanks to Graham and Neil.  Here's a couple of pics
      > 
      > Regards
      > 
      > Paul Stewart
      > G-GIDY
      > 
      > ------ End of Forwarded Message
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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      Paul,
      Your plane is a testament to your craftsmanship and perseverance.  It is 
      obvious your efforts have been rewarded by the uneventful flights and 
      the good looking pictures.
      
      Congrats...And have many happy flights.
      
      Bud Yerly
      Custom Flight Creations
      US Europa Dealer
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Europa<mailto:europa@pstewart.f2s.com> 
        To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
        Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 4:14 PM
        Subject: Europa-List: FW: G-GIDY
      
      
        G-GIDY took to the air for the first time today.
      
        A mere 12 1/2 years in the making (500 hours eh!!).
      
        Went up with test pilot Paul for the 2nd (1 hour) flight - what a 
      privilege.
      
        To anyone who has helped us with a query over the years many many 
      thanks.
      
        Particular thanks to Graham and Neil.  Here's a couple of pics
      
        Regards
      
        Paul Stewart
        G-GIDY
      
        ------ End of Forwarded Message
      
      
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      Well done Paul, worth the wait wasn't it ?
      BTW, Ivan only charged you for 500 hours of enjoyment, you owe him for ano
      ther 2,500 hours it seems ? !
      Cheers,
      Nev.
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Europa <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
      Sent: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 21:14
      Subject: Europa-List: FW: G-GIDY
      
      
      G-GIDY took to the air for the first time today.
      A mere 12 1/2 years in the making (500 hours eh!!).
      Went up with test pilot Paul for the 2nd (1 hour) flight - what a privileg
      e.
      To anyone who has helped us with a query over the years many many thanks.
      Particular thanks to Graham and Neil.  Here's a couple of pics
      Regards
      Paul Stewart
      -GIDY
      ------ End of Forwarded Message
      
      
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      Thanks Nev =AD floating around on a beautiful autumn evening yesterday, yes i
      t
      was worth the wait. We may have to haggle over the outstanding dues though.
      
      Paul
      
      
      On 5/10/10 21:05, "neveyre@aol.co.uk" <neveyre@aol.co.uk> wrote:
      
      > Well done Paul, worth the wait wasn't it ?
      > BTW, Ivan only charged you for 500 hours of enjoyment, you owe him for an
      other
      > 2,500 hours it seems ? !
      > Cheers,
      > Nev.
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Europa <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
      > To: europa-list@matronics.com <europa-list@matronics.com>
      > Sent: Mon, 4 Oct 2010 21:14
      > Subject: Europa-List: FW: G-GIDY
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > G-GIDY took to the air for the first time today.
      > 
      > A mere 12 1/2 years in the making (500 hours eh!!).
      > 
      > Went up with test pilot Paul for the 2nd (1 hour) flight - what a privile
      ge.
      > 
      > To anyone who has helped us with a query over the years many many thanks.
      > 
      > Particular thanks to Graham and Neil.  Here's a couple of pics
      > 
      > Regards
      > 
      > Paul Stewart
      > G-GIDY
      > 
      > ------ End of Forwarded Message
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
 
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