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Bob
I had exactly the same situation. Luckily the structural work was
finished with Ampreg 20 but for some of the finishing I used Ampreg 21.
I found the same issues as yourself. The only way to improve things that
I found was to wet sand or post cure the component before sanding.
I only had a small amount left to do but if I was to do this again I
would try another resin. It needs checking but I believe for the filling
operations you can use whatever resin you like.
Regards
David Steade
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Hi
Just a bit more information. The land line number for Matt Leach
starting 01872*** now belongs to someone else and they would appreciate
no further calls.
Regards
David Steade
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| Subject: | Re: Europa-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 10/06/10 |
David, my friend.
I will always remember him strolling with us at the beach on Elba, and bying
some souvenirs for those who stayed home. His determination to overfly
Venice for photografical purposes gave me the opertunity to be pictured in
an exeptionel position with my europa F-PKRL. We were about the same age but
he was always so cordial and friendly that I looked up to a magnificent man
and great pilot.
My sincere condolences go to Richard and family and to the Europa community.
Karel Vranken.
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> 1. 02:56 AM - AMPREG 21 (Bob Fairall)
> 2. 03:14 AM - Re: AMPREG 21 (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
> 3. 03:38 AM - Re: FW: G-GIDY (Kingsley Hurst)
> 4. 03:38 AM - Re: FW: G-GIDY (Kingsley Hurst)
> 5. 03:57 AM - Re: AMPREG 21 (Jan de Jong)
> 6. 08:02 AM - david corbett (Rowland Carson)
> 7. 09:16 AM - Detail sanding board for cheap. (rparigoris)
> 8. 12:35 PM - Re: FW: G-GIDY (Europa)
> 9. 04:57 PM - Upholstery (Steade)
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> ________________________________ Message 1
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> Time: 02:56:36 AM PST US
> From: Bob Fairall <Bob.Fairall@fairalls.co.uk>
> Subject: Europa-List: AMPREG 21
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm wondering whether anyone has had any snags with the 'new' Ampreg 21 as
> opposed to the 'old 'Ampreg 20' when used in the surface finishing mode?
>
> I've never had a problem with Ampreg 20, either on my first Europa, nor up
> to half way through the build of my second. However, I ran out of '20' an
> d have started using Europa supplied '21' and find the '21' based filler h
> orrible to sand ........ it clogs every sanding paper I try, Permagrit too
> ls included.
>
> I am using:-
>
>
> * the same filler, Europa supplied, same batch even.
>
>
> * I add of the other powder (sorry, can't remember the name) to ma
> ke it smooth more easily in exactly the same proportions as before.
>
>
> * the right mix - '20' is 100:25. '21' is 3:1.
>
>
> * the workshop is heat soaked and dry, dry, dry ........ I even tr
> ied higher than usual workshop temps.
>
>
> * I keep the workshop warm for at least 12 hours after application
> and after that the workshop has burst of heat which keep it well above cu
> rrent outside air temperature, which is about 17C.
>
> I am aware SP have a very good Helpline, but thought I'd see if anyone els
> e has had the same problem first.
>
> Thanks
>
> Bob Fairall
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> Time: 03:14:06 AM PST US
> From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: AMPREG 21
>
> Bob=0Aa lot of people use West system for finishing, sands easier and cures
> quicker. I =0Aalways add Cabosil which allows more expancell to be added a
> nd causes less =0Apinholes. ratio 1 cabosil :5 expancell by volume.=0AGraha
> m=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Bob Fairall <Bo
> b.Fairall@fairalls.co.uk>=0ATo: "europa-list@matronics.com"
> <europa-list@ma
> tronics.com>=0ASent: Wednesday, 6 October, 2010 10:53:02=0ASubject:
> Europa-
> List: AMPREG 21=0A=0A =0AHi all,=0A =0AI=99m wondering whether anyone
> has had any snags with the =98new=99 Ampreg 21 as =0Aopposed t
> o the =98old =98Ampreg 20=99 when used in the surface fin
> ishing mode?=0A =0AI=99ve never had a problem with Ampreg 20, either
> on my first Europa, nor up to =0Ahalf way through the build of my second. H
> owever, I ran out of =9820=99 and have =0Astarted using Europa
> supplied =9821=99 and find the =9821=99 based fille
> r horrible to =0Asand .. it clogs every sanding paper I t
> ry, Permagrit tools included.=0A =0AI am using:- =0A =0A=C2=B7 the
> same filler, Europa supplied, same batch even.=0A =0A=C2=B7 I add o
> f the other powder (sorry, can=99t remember the name) to make it =0As
> mooth more easily in exactly the same proportions as before.=0A =0A=C2=B7
> the right mix =93 =9820=99 is 100:25. =9821
> =99 is 3:1.=0A =0A=C2=B7 the workshop is heat soaked and dry,
> dry, dry .. I even tried higher =0Athan usual workshop t
> emps.=0A =0A=C2=B7 I keep the workshop warm for at least 12 hours a
> fter application and =0Aafter that the workshop has burst of heat which kee
> p it well above current =0Aoutside air temperature, which is about 17C.=0A
> =0AI am aware SP have a very good Helpline, but thought I=99d see if
> anyone else has =0Ahad the same problem first.=0A =0AThanks=0A =0ABob Faira
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> ________________________________ Message 3
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> Time: 03:38:38 AM PST US
> From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@redzone.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: G-GIDY
>
>
> Paul,
>
> Congratulations on a very fine example indeed.
>
> It is particularly pleasing to see another Mono has been born!
>
> The colour of my face is much the same as the grass in your photo mate.
>
> All the best from Oz
>
> Kingsley
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 03:38:38 AM PST US
> From: "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@redzone.com.au>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: G-GIDY
>
> > BTW, Ivan only charged you for 500 hours of enjoyment, you owe him for
> another 2,500 hours it seems ? !
> Cheers,
> Nev.
>
>
> Geeez Nev, how the hell am I ever going to pay my dues?
>
> Cheers
> Kingsley
>
> do not archive
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:57:19 AM PST US
> From: Jan de Jong <jan_de_jong@casema.nl>
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: AMPREG 21
>
>
> I use SP106 for surface work. A lot less sticky than Ampreg20.
> Cheers,
> Jan de Jong
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
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>
> Time: 08:02:42 AM PST US
> Subject: Europa-List: david corbett
> From: Rowland Carson <rowlandcarson@gmail.com>
>
>
> Many people in the Europa community will know David Corbett. Some of
> you may have heard that he was in hospital suffering from leukemia. I
> received the following message today from his son Richard:
>
>
> "Very sadly David died early this morning he slipped away peacefully
> in his sleep and had not been in discomfort.
>
> Please could you let the Europa community know.
>
> Many thanks.
>
> Richard Corbett
>
> Corbett Farms Ltd"
>
>
> David was a good friend and a great asset to the aviation community,
> and he will be sorely missed.
>
> in friendship
>
> Rowland
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:16:19 AM PST US
> Subject: Europa-List: Detail sanding board for cheap.
> From: "rparigoris" <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
>
>
> Hi Group
>
> Alan came up with this simple design for a small sanding board for cheap.
> Very useful for detail sanding:
>
> http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=84267
> http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=84264
>
> Light weight, allows for good grip, allows for good good feel and cheap.
> Ron Parigoris
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=314933#314933
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 12:35:40 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: G-GIDY
> From: Europa <europa@pstewart.f2s.com>
>
>
> Thank every one for the kind thoughts - they have made quite a special week
> all the more so.
>
> Regards
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 6/10/10 11:35, "Kingsley Hurst" <hurstkr@redzone.com.au> wrote:
>
> >
> > Paul,
> >
> > Congratulations on a very fine example indeed.
> >
> > It is particularly pleasing to see another Mono has been born!
> >
> > The colour of my face is much the same as the grass in your photo mate.
> >
> > All the best from Oz
> >
> > Kingsley
> >
> > do not archive
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:57:47 PM PST US
> From: "Steade" <steade@btinternet.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: Upholstery
>
> Hi
>
> Thanks for all the reply's regarding contact details for Matthew. I
> seems the person I am after is Matt Leach but having tried the contact
> numbers it seems he is out of circulation.
>
> If I do get in touch with him I will let every one know.
>
> Regards
>
> David Steade
>
>
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