---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 10/14/10: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:46 AM - FW: She Flies Like a Bird (G-IANI) 2. 03:42 AM - Re: Magneto problem (Jim Brown) 3. 07:25 AM - Bad WX Call North Weald (Paddy Clarke) 4. 08:00 AM - Re: Magneto problem (John Wigney) 5. 08:24 AM - Re: Bad WX Call North Weald (Robert C Harrison) 6. 09:26 AM - Re: FW: She Flies Like a Bird (Robert C Harrison) 7. 09:26 AM - Re: Magneto problem (Karl Heindl) 8. 10:24 AM - Re: FW: She Flies Like a Bird (Europa) 9. 11:26 AM - Altimeter/transponder question (Fergus Kyle) 10. 02:10 PM - Magneto problem solved (Karl Heindl) 11. 02:41 PM - Re: Altimeter/transponder question (Bud Yerly) 12. 06:08 PM - Bud- once again... (Fergus Kyle) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:46:14 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: Europa-List: FW: She Flies Like a Bird Forward on behalf of Mike Gamble who is having computer problems From: mike gamble [mailto:mp.gamble@talktalk.net] Sent: 14 October 2010 10:02 Subject: She Flies Like a Bird Thanks to all for your goodwill messages. The final test flight, with myself as observer, was conducted yesterday at Popham airfield and all went well. Paperwork will go to the LAA and the full permit should reach me soon. The encouragement and support received from this forum, my inspector Alan Thorne, test pilot Dave Bosomworth and all friends and colleagues has been invaluable. I now look forward to a little coaching before that first solo in my own aircraft. Per ardua ad astra Mike Gamble G-CFMP XS Mono ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:42:37 AM PST US From: Jim Brown Subject: Re: Europa-List: Magneto problem Karl when you switch to one magneto, and one plug is bad, the engine is run ning =0Aon 3 cylinders.=0A=0AJim Brown=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________ __________=0AFrom: Karl Heindl =0ATo: europa-list@matronic s.com=0ASent: Wed, October 13, 2010 7:37:38 PM=0ASubject: RE: Europa-List: Magneto problem=0A=0ABud, =0A=0AThat would be easy to fix. But why is it sh owing only on one magneto ?=0A=0AKarl-=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A> From: budyerly@ msn.com=0A> To: europa-list@matronics.com=0A> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Mag neto problem=0A> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 18:31:39 -0400=0A> =0A> --> Europa- List message posted by: "Bud Yerly" =0A> =0A> Karl,=0A> M ost probable is a fouled plug.=0A> =0A> Bud=0A> =0A> =0A> ----- Original Me ssage ----- =0A> From: "Karl Heindl" =0A> To: =0A> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 5:59 PM=0A> Subject: Europa-List: Magneto problem=0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> Has anyone come a cross this ignition problem before ? :=0A> In my usual runup I noticed that the engine is vibrating like mad on one (L) =0A> magneto and there seemed to be some backfiring going on.=0A> The engine runs fine on R and on BOTH. =0A> For example at 2450 on BOTH, I get 2370 for R and 2150 on L.=0A> What am I looking for ?=0A> Karl=0A> <============== =========0A>=============== ===================== =0A=0A=0A =0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:25:41 AM PST US From: Paddy Clarke Subject: Europa-List: Bad WX Call North Weald Hi All, Sorry about getting the weather wrong for North Weald today. My apologies to anyone who did make it, I'll try better next time - though this will probably be down to someone else. I'm getting my annual done, then doing a bit of essential maintenance, so I'll be out of action for a time. All the best, Paddy Paddy Clarke Europa G-KIMM ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:49 AM PST US From: John Wigney Subject: Re: Europa-List: Magneto problem Hi Karl, I assume that you have checked for a loose plug cap. They will come off. I am just replacing my bottom caps which seem to be more susceptible to working loose. The caps are obtainable at http://www.clubplug.net/ for $6.30 each. The NGK 5 K ohm resistor cap part no. is VD05FMH. (Lockwood's price is $53.34!!) Another possible cause is a broken wire at the multi-pin connectors on the ignition modules. On early engines, there was a common problem with breaks inside the small inlet grommets due to a tight bend and vibration. Cheers, John N262WF, mono XS , 912S ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ORIGINAL MESSAGE From: Karl Heindl Subject: Europa-List: Magneto problem Has anyone come across this ignition problem before ? : In my usual runup I noticed that the engine is vibrating like mad on one (L ) magneto and there seemed to be some backfiring going on. The engine runs fine on R and on BOTH. For example at 2450 on BOTH=2C I get 2370 for R and 2150 on L. What am I looking for ? Karl ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:24:09 AM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Bad WX Call North Weald Yes Paddy, it had been my intention to go but the drizzle proved to be a damn "no no". so frustrating when surrounded by "high" ambient pressure the still air makes for cloud and poor vis. I'm too facing a period of grounding for some works to be done but can't yet commit to accept the fact of "ground Zero"! Regards Bob H Hi All, Sorry about getting the weather wrong for North Weald today. My apologies to anyone who did make it, I'll try better next time - though this will probably be down to someone else. I'm getting my annual done, then doing a bit of essential maintenance, so I'll be out of action for a time. All the best, Paddy Paddy Clarke Europa G-KIMM ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:46 AM PST US From: "Robert C Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: FW: She Flies Like a Bird Well done ! Mike. Now you need good weather ! Don't try Sandown yet ! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of G-IANI Sent: 14 October 2010 10:30 Subject: Europa-List: FW: She Flies Like a Bird Forward on behalf of Mike Gamble who is having computer problems ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:48 AM PST US From: Karl Heindl Subject: RE: Europa-List: Magneto problem Hi John=2C Bud=2C Pete=2C Thank you for all the hints. I am going this afternoon to check all that ou t. On my way I am also picking up a set of spark plugs. If I don't need the m now=2Cthen I will need them in the future.I assume it will be something s imple. Cheers=2C Karl > Date: Thu=2C 14 Oct 2010 10:57:45 -0400 > From: johnwigney@windstream.net > To: kheindl@msn.com=3B europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Magneto problem > > > > Hi Karl=2C > > I assume that you have checked for a loose plug cap. They will come off. > I am just replacing my bottom caps which seem to be more susceptible to > working loose. The caps are obtainable at http://www.clubplug.net/ for > $6.30 each. The NGK 5 K ohm resistor cap part no. is VD05FMH. > (Lockwood's price is $53.34!!) > > Another possible cause is a broken wire at the multi-pin connectors on > the ignition modules. On early engines=2C there was a common problem with > breaks inside the small inlet grommets due to a tight bend and vibration. > > Cheers=2C John > N262WF=2C mono XS =2C 912S > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > ORIGINAL MESSAGE > > From: Karl Heindl > Subject: Europa-List: Magneto problem > Has anyone come across this ignition problem before ? : > In my usual runup I noticed that the engine is vibrating like mad on one (L > ) magneto and there seemed to be some backfiring going on. > The engine runs fine on R and on BOTH. > For example at 2450 on BOTH=2C I get 2370 for R and 2150 on L. > What am I looking for ? > Karl > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:24:21 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: She Flies Like a Bird From: Europa Congratulations Mike. Our own test program completed today so LAA will be busy with Europa first permits. Regards Paul G-GIDY On 14/10/10 10:30, "G-IANI" wrote: > Forward on behalf of Mike Gamble who is having computer problems > > > From: mike gamble [mailto:mp.gamble@talktalk.net] > Sent: 14 October 2010 10:02 > To: 'europa-list@matronics.com' > Subject: She Flies Like a Bird > > Thanks to all for your goodwill messages. The final test flight, with myself > as observer, was conducted yesterday at Popham airfield and all went well. > Paperwork will go to the LAA and the full permit should reach me soon. > The encouragement and support received from this forum, my inspector Alan > Thorne, test pilot Dave Bosomworth and all friends and colleagues has been > invaluable. > I now look forward to a little coaching before that first solo in my own > aircraft. > Per ardua ad astra > > Mike Gamble > G-CFMP > XS Mono > > > > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:26:08 AM PST US From: Fergus Kyle Subject: Europa-List: Altimeter/transponder question Cheers, I have dropped my plans for a discrete display and have opteds to add the Dynon D-100 EFIS to the mix. In the process, my Garmin GTZ327 transponder was fed by the Ameri-King AK-350 Altitude Reporter. Since the D-100 boasts the same altitude reporting facility (at much greater simplicity) I must now undo the AK-350 wiring. Has anyone else done this dirty thing? - because I have not yet found the means to disengage the old one for the D-100 features...... Your advice rochly appreciated. Happy landings Ferg Europa 914 Classic ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:10:31 PM PST US From: Karl Heindl Subject: Europa-List: Magneto problem solved Sure enough=2C you guys were right=2C the problem was a loose ignition cabl e to the bottom of the no. 2 cylinder.Thanks again. Karl ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 02:41:04 PM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Altimeter/transponder question Altimeter/transponder questionFerg, I just happen to be doing a similar exchange tomorrow and was doing research on my wire bundles. The AK used analog inputs only and the Dynon will do a serial digital directly to the Garmin 327 which will do both. Follow your D100 instruction manual and eliminate the wire. If you hate or cannot make new plugs easily there is a provision to add a Dynon Avionics Encoder Serial to Parallel Converter which is a converter box sold for a price. It takes only two wires from the Dynon and will allow with some checking, the use of the multiwire strand you have to use now. Basically, it takes two wires and makes a bundle that plugs in to the transponder cable you had going from the Garmin to the AK 350. See the chart below. Piece of cake either way. I prefer to wire to the digital inputs as shown in the second box. Just set the D100 program up to talk to the Garmin and it will work. In the programming part of the manual it has specifics for your transponder and the D100. Just follow the instructions, it is piece of cake if you know how to make D sub connectors. Please download the D100 installation manual from the Dynon website. It takes a bit of study, but it frees up a 10 wire bundle. I am doing the same with a conversion from the AK to a GRT Horizon HX which wires similarly. I have done the same with the D-10. Alas most of my customers prefer the Horizon series from Grand Rapids as it has a more features. But they all give you digital abilities and fewer wires which is a plus, but more programming time. Best Regards, Bud Custom Flight Creations ----- Original Message ----- From: Fergus Kyle To: 5EUROPALIST Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 2:19 PM Subject: Europa-List: Altimeter/transponder question Cheers, I have dropped my plans for a discrete display and have opteds to add the Dynon D-100 EFIS to the mix. In the process, my Garmin GTZ327 transponder was fed by the Ameri-King AK-350 Altitude Reporter. Since the D-100 boasts the same altitude reporting facility (at much greater simplicity) I must now undo the AK-350 wiring. Has anyone else done this dirty thing? - because I have not yet found the means to disengage the old one for the D-100 features...... Your advice rochly appreciated. Happy landings Ferg Europa 914 Classic http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:08:42 PM PST US From: Fergus Kyle Subject: Europa-List: Bud- once again... ....you have come through loud and clear. I looked at the manual pages applicable, per your message, and see that method two is the preferred - so will carry on with that. I find many of these 'technology' manuals are written by the 'guy who done it' and he knows what he means but sometimes doesn't say what he means. In any event you cleared the air and I thank you for it. 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