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Sat 10/23/10


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 12:22 AM - Re: Pneumatic connectors (Steade)
     2. 01:48 AM - Mogas UK (goff)
     3. 01:48 AM - Rotax fuel flow detection (Guerner Remi)
     4. 04:09 AM - SV: Rotax fuel flow detection (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:22:59 AM PST US
    From: "Steade" <steade@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Pneumatic connectors
    Thanks for the replies Supplier now located. Regards David Steade


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    Time: 01:48:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Mogas UK
    From: "goff" <goffmoore@aviators.net>
    The ukga.com site now lists 4 UK airfields that have Mogas for sale. Sherburn and Sywell I knew about but Enstone and Wolverhampton were news to me. Goff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=316740#316740


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    Time: 01:48:13 AM PST US
    From: Guerner Remi <air.guerner@orange.fr>
    Subject: Rotax fuel flow detection
    Svein, I basically agree with what you wrote. However my proposed schematic is very close to the one recommanded (and optionally supplied) by Rotax in the 912 Install Manual (see attached). This arrangement works on most LSAs so I do not see why it would not work with the addition of the fuel flow sensor as propsed. Regards Remi Guerner <<<<<<At first sight, your proposal may look like the obvious solution. With respect, however, I think it is not to be recommended for 912ULS installations (I do not know enough about 914 to comment on that engine). Contrary to what seems to be a common assumption, the return flow through the restrictor is not insignificant - it is roughly 10 litres per hour (i.e. roughly half of the net cruise consumption, or roughly 1/3 of the fuel going to the engine is flowing back to the tank). The reason for this relatively high surplus circulation is of course to reduce the time the fuel is exposed to heat before it reaches the carbs, by increasing the flow velocity through the fuel line. According to the build manual, the return line branches off at the point farthest from the pump, just before the left side carb (assuming the fuel line goes from the pump to the right side of the engine with a short branch off to the right carb, and from there across the back of the engine to the left carb). Moving the return line branch-off upstream (closer to the pump) increases the risk of vapour forming in the fuel lines downstream from this branch-off point. By how much, I do not know, but maybe it is critical under unfavourable circumstances. "Maybe's" under the cowling are not nice - - - - - .>>>>>>>>>


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    Time: 04:09:04 AM PST US
    From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no>
    Subject: Rotax fuel flow detection
    Remi, The Rotax manual shows a principle, not one that is optimal for all actual installations. Different aircraft will have different under-the-cowl arrangements, different cool air flows under the cowl, etc. Europa shows another arrangement, which of course is better but I cannot say by how much or whether it will matter. The difference in fuel tube length at high vs low flow velocity is small, and if the tube is placed in a heat shield the increase in vapour lock risk may be acceptable. Regards, Svein -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] P vegne av Guerner Remi Sendt: 23. oktober 2010 10:44 Til: Europa-List Digest Server Emne: Europa-List: Rotax fuel flow detection Svein, I basically agree with what you wrote. However my proposed schematic is very close to the one recommanded (and optionally supplied) by Rotax in the 912 Install Manual (see attached). This arrangement works on most LSAs so I do not see why it would not work with the addition of the fuel flow sensor as propsed. Regards Remi Guerner




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