Today's Message Index:
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1. 06:11 AM - Tru-Trak servo Service Bulletin (Guerner Remi)
2. 10:41 AM - Arplast Prop (Steade)
3. 01:21 PM - Re: Rotax fuel flow detection (Juergen Buschmann)
4. 01:37 PM - Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage (graeme bird)
5. 01:46 PM - Fuel Computer (Juergen Buschmann)
6. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage (Robert Borger)
7. 03:01 PM - Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage (rparigoris)
8. 03:53 PM - zolatone (Fred Klein)
9. 04:45 PM - Re: Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage (Jan de Jong)
10. 04:45 PM - Re: Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage (JR Gowing)
11. 05:46 PM - Re: Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage (Lance Sandford)
12. 05:53 PM - Re: zolatone (Steve Hagar)
13. 08:07 PM - Re: zolatone (Kevin Klinefelter)
14. 10:11 PM - Re: zolatone (Fred Klein)
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| Subject: | Tru-Trak servo Service Bulletin |
To Tru-Trak autopilot users,
Are you aware of the attached Service Bulletin? They recommand to fit
a safety bracket to prevent the screw securing the servo arm to get
loose. The good news is that they will send you the bracket free of
charge. Just send them an e-mail. I received mine today.
Congratulations to Tru-Trak for such a good product support!
Remi Guerner
F-PGKL
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Hi All
Now that Jerry has stopped supporting the Arplast Prop in the UK does
anyone have a good contact at the Factory who can be contacted in
English for the supply of spares and service?
Regards
David Steade
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| Subject: | Re: Rotax fuel flow detection |
I will too install a fuel computer this winter to my 912s.
In the manual of my FC1 Flybox is a schematic I will post here
and I cant see why it shoud not work.
Even measuring the fow of only one carb it should be no problem to find
the right k-faktor setting.
Am 23.10.2010 10:44, schrieb Guerner Remi:
> Svein,
>
> I basically agree with what you wrote. However my proposed schematic
> is very close to the one recommanded (and optionally supplied) by
> Rotax in the 912 Install Manual (see attached). This arrangement works
> on most LSAs so I do not see why it would not work with the addition
> of the fuel flow sensor as propsed.
>
> Regards
> Remi Guerner
>
>
> <<<<<<At first sight, your proposal may look like the obvious
> solution. With
> respect, however, I think it is not to be recommended for 912ULS
> installations (I do not know enough about 914 to comment on that engine).
>
> Contrary to what seems to be a common assumption, the return flow through
> the restrictor is not insignificant - it is roughly 10 litres per hour
> (i.e.
> roughly half of the net cruise consumption, or roughly 1/3 of the fuel
> going
> to the engine is flowing back to the tank). The reason for this
> relatively
> high surplus circulation is of course to reduce the time the fuel is
> exposed
> to heat before it reaches the carbs, by increasing the flow velocity
> through
> the fuel line. According to the build manual, the return line
> branches off
> at the point farthest from the pump, just before the left side carb
> (assuming the fuel line goes from the pump to the right side of the
> engine
> with a short branch off to the right carb, and from there across the
> back of
> the engine to the left carb).
>
> Moving the return line branch-off upstream (closer to the pump) increases
> the risk of vapour forming in the fuel lines downstream from this
> branch-off
> point. By how much, I do not know, but maybe it is critical under
> unfavourable circumstances. "Maybe's" under the cowling are not nice
> - - -
> - - .>>>>>>>>>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |
I didnt get any response on this, was it a stupid question? I still cant find out
where they are supposed to come through.
Advice appreciated.
--------
Graeme Bird
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317245#317245
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I will too install a fuel computer this winter to my 912s.
In the manual of my FC1 Flybox is a schematic I will post here
and I cant see why it shoud not work.
Even measuring the fow of only one carb it should be no problem to find
the right k-faktor setting.
Juergen
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| Subject: | Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |
Graeme,
I understand there is no specific direction for the routing and exit of the pitot/static
plumbing. It's pretty much what ever works best for you.
Check six,
Bob Borger
http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL
Europa XS, Short Wing, Intercooled Rotax 914
rlborger@mac.com
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Oct 27, 2010, at 3:35 PM, graeme bird wrote:
>
> I didnt get any response on this, was it a stupid question? I still cant find
out where they are supposed to come through.
>
> Advice appreciated.
>
> --------
> Graeme Bird
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| Subject: | Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |
Hi Graeme
You can look through this album for some ideas:
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=31838
Ira and Bobs routing are at the beginning.
My choice is scattered about the album a bit, but I ran 3 pneumatic hoses and wires
on the port side and 1 pneumatic hose and wires on the starboard side.
They are just aft of the spars and sneak between the fuse and the fuel tank and
poke out through the space between the headrest and fuse side.
Since I needed to get some of the port wires to the starboard headrest, I covered
the wires with Teflon expando sleeve and snaked it above the fuel tank to the
inside of the starboard headrest.
I considered the aft route, but couldn't make it work as well for me . If you do
consider the aft route keep in mind weakening it may cause the rear liftpin
socket.
Good luck
Ron Parigoris
Stbd 1 pneumatic hose and the other is for wires:
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=84429
Port 3 pneumatic:
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=84432
Port exiting between headrest and fuse:
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=31871
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317262#317262
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Hi...I note that zolatone recommends a 2.0 to 2.4mm nozzle in a
pressure-feed type gun for spraying their multicolor material.
I'm finding that, short of spending way more for a gun than I'd like
to, the guns in my price range have 1.4mm to 1.8mm nozzles.
Has anyone tried to enlarge the nozzle size of a spray gun
successfully?...unsuccessfully?...in order to apply the zolatone
multicolor material?
My application is for cockpit interior which will not be covered w/
fabric...I'm attracted to the multi-color-stuff as it seems to offer a
good way to mask the CM seams and other irregularities...I've looked
for but have not found any comparable spray can product at Home Depot
or hardware stores.
Recommendations from experience are most welcome.
Thanks,
Fred
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| Subject: | Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |
This is still in the future for me, but I think my plan is:
- from wing conduit outlet behind the spar over the spar (under fairing)
to in front of spar
- connections in front of spar
- into fuselage behind seat
- up to window sill by headrest avoiding motorglider wings spoiler
actuator hole in the corner (fuselage side just below spar pin hole)
- join window sill conduit
I have the impression that this was once considered the standard way. It
may be in the manual somewhere.
Jan de Jong
graeme bird wrote:
>
> I didnt get any response on this, was it a stupid question? I still cant find
out where they are supposed to come through.
>
> Advice appreciated.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |
Graeme
I placed my tube into the fuselage rear of the fuselage stiffener. Holding
the tube in place alongside the stiffener, I added a cover rising to just
under the fuselage side stiffener (door sill) of the fuselage where I made a
triangular support for the sill which is also a tunnel for wiring and tubes
which can go either way..
JR Kit 327 in OZ
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of graeme bird
Sent: Thursday, 28 October 2010 7:35 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage
I didnt get any response on this, was it a stupid question? I still cant
find out where they are supposed to come through.
Advice appreciated.
--------
Graeme Bird
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=317245#317245
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| Subject: | Re: bringing Pitot and static tubes into fuselage |
Graeme
Attached (I hope) is a page from what I believe was the final Europa
News from the old Company.
Regards
Lance Sandford in OZ
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "graeme bird"<graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
>
> I didnt get any response on this, was it a stupid question? I still cant find
out where they are supposed to come through.
>
> Advice appreciated.
>
> --------
> Graeme Bird
>
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Yes I used some number drills to open the nozzel up and the results were
fine.
Steve Hagar
Mesa Az
> [Original Message]
> From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Date: 10/27/2010 3:55:48 PM
> Subject: Europa-List: zolatone
>
>
> Hi...I note that zolatone recommends a 2.0 to 2.4mm nozzle in a
> pressure-feed type gun for spraying their multicolor material.
>
> I'm finding that, short of spending way more for a gun than I'd like
> to, the guns in my price range have 1.4mm to 1.8mm nozzles.
>
> Has anyone tried to enlarge the nozzle size of a spray gun
> successfully?...unsuccessfully?...in order to apply the zolatone
> multicolor material?
>
> My application is for cockpit interior which will not be covered w/
> fabric...I'm attracted to the multi-color-stuff as it seems to offer a
> good way to mask the CM seams and other irregularities...I've looked
> for but have not found any comparable spray can product at Home Depot
> or hardware stores.
>
> Recommendations from experience are most welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred
>
>
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Fred,
I bought a Harbor Freight gun and drilled it out. Worked fine.
If your primer matches the base color of the zolatone, you won't have to
spray as much. The zolatone is heavy if you spray it thick.
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Klein" <fklein@orcasonline.com>
Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2010 3:51 PM
Subject: Europa-List: zolatone
>
> Hi...I note that zolatone recommends a 2.0 to 2.4mm nozzle in a
> pressure-feed type gun for spraying their multicolor material.
>
> I'm finding that, short of spending way more for a gun than I'd like to,
> the guns in my price range have 1.4mm to 1.8mm nozzles.
>
> Has anyone tried to enlarge the nozzle size of a spray gun
> successfully?...unsuccessfully?...in order to apply the zolatone
> multicolor material?
>
> My application is for cockpit interior which will not be covered w/
> fabric...I'm attracted to the multi-color-stuff as it seems to offer a
> good way to mask the CM seams and other irregularities...I've looked for
> but have not found any comparable spray can product at Home Depot or
> hardware stores.
>
> Recommendations from experience are most welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Fred
>
>
>
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Kevin K. & Steve H....thank you for your responses
> I bought a Harbor Freight gun and drilled it out.
...HF is my favorite supplier!
> Worked fine.
Excellent...BTW, how's the gun work on conventional paint after the
nozzle has been enlarged?
Fred
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