---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 11/04/10: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:59 AM - NSI CAP 140 IFA prop maintenance and spares (Bob Panther) 2. 07:40 AM - Re: NSI CAP 140 IFA prop maintenance and spares (Robert Borger) 3. 08:00 AM - Re: NSI CAP 140 IFA prop maintenance and spares (Bob Fairall) 4. 09:06 AM - Re: NSI CAP 140 IFA prop maintenance and spares (Garry Stout) 5. 10:53 AM - Re: NSI CAP 140 IFA prop maintenance and spares (Pete Lawless) 6. 11:43 AM - Woodcomp SR2000 (Alain Chabert) 7. 12:04 PM - Woodcomp SR2000 (Alain Chabert) 8. 01:35 PM - Re: Woodcomp SR2000 (G-IANI) 9. 01:53 PM - Warp drive props (graeme bird) 10. 03:27 PM - Re: Warp drive props (Robert Borger) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:59:05 AM PST US From: Bob Panther Subject: Europa-List: NSI CAP 140 IFA prop maintenance and spares Hello group, I'm a would be Europa owner and am considering buying a plane with a Rotax 912 engine and an NSI CAP140 IFA prop. I know little about Europa's (other than they look good, fly well, and have very loyal owners,) and I know even less about this prop, other than I had heard a rumour that spares/ servicing might be a problem for UK owners. Any info on servicing, spares, pre-purchase checking (and anything else I should know) would be appreciated. Apologies if this question has been answered somewhere in the archive (I'm still learning how to drive this site) Thanks (in anticipation) Bob ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:40:23 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: NSI CAP 140 IFA prop maintenance and spares From: Robert Borger Bob, I would recommend a Google or other search on "NSI CAP 140 Propeller" to get as much background information as possible. I believe there may be a Canadian AD on the prop. NSI used to have a website ( http://www.nsiaero.com/ ) but it is no longer operating. Caveat Emptor. Is it possible in the UK to replace the CAP 140 on a flying Europa with another prop (Warp Drive, Airmaster, Whirlwind, WoodComp, etc.)? Can this be done economically in this case? Check six, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Tri-Gear, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S Prop http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232 http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046 Europa Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Nov 4, 2010, at 8:55, Bob Panther wrote: > > Hello group, > > I'm a would be Europa owner and am considering buying a plane with a Rotax 912 engine and an NSI CAP140 IFA prop. > > I know little about Europa's (other than they look good, fly well, and have very loyal owners,) and I know even less about this prop, other than I had heard a rumour that spares/ servicing might be a problem for UK owners. Any info on servicing, spares, pre-purchase checking (and anything else I should know) would be appreciated. > > Apologies if this question has been answered somewhere in the archive (I'm still learning how to drive this site) > > Thanks (in anticipation) > > Bob > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:00:33 AM PST US From: Bob Fairall Subject: RE: Europa-List: NSI CAP 140 IFA prop maintenance and spares Hi Bob, Try LAA Inspector - Dave Charlesworth ........ DCHARLESWORTH3@aol.com / +44 7876 745986 -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Panther Sent: 04 November 2010 13:55 Subject: Europa-List: NSI CAP 140 IFA prop maintenance and spares Hello group, I'm a would be Europa owner and am considering buying a plane with a Rotax 912 engine and an NSI CAP140 IFA prop. I know little about Europa's (other than they look good, fly well, and have very loyal owners,) and I know even less about this prop, other than I had heard a rumour that spares/ servicing might be a problem for UK owners. Any info on servicing, spares, pre-purchase checking (and anything else I should know) would be appreciated. Apologies if this question has been answered somewhere in the archive (I'm still learning how to drive this site) Thanks (in anticipation) Bob ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:09 AM PST US From: "Garry Stout" Subject: RE: Europa-List: NSI CAP 140 IFA prop maintenance and spares I can enthusiastically recommend the Whirlwind constant speed prop. Those who are running it will swear it's the best on the market. A little pricey, but it you want the ultimate in performance, it's the way to go. Garry Stout Bob, Is it possible in the UK to replace the CAP 140 on a flying Europa with another prop (Warp Drive, Airmaster, Whirlwind, WoodComp, etc.)? Can this be done economically in this case? Bob Borger On Nov 4, 2010, at 8:55, Bob Panther wrote: > > Hello group, > > I'm a would be Europa owner and am considering buying a plane with a Rotax 912 engine and an NSI CAP140 IFA prop. > > I know little about Europa's (other than they look good, fly well, and have very loyal owners,) and I know even less about this prop, other than I had heard a rumour that spares/ servicing might be a problem for UK owners. Any info on servicing, spares, pre-purchase checking (and anything else I should know) would be appreciated. > > Apologies if this question has been answered somewhere in the archive (I'm still learning how to drive this site) > > Thanks (in anticipation) > > Bob > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 10:53:21 AM PST US From: "Pete Lawless" Subject: RE: Europa-List: NSI CAP 140 IFA prop maintenance and spares Hi Bob NSI were bought out by Maxwell Propulsion some year back, Maxwell have ceased trading recently. Although they never officially supported the CAP140 they did have quite a number of spares. The blades are standard Warpdrive and readily obtainable from them directly. However the cuffs are NSI and would need to be refitted. There was an AD regarding the early version of the cuff but they are now on Mark 3 with no issues. The original problem was when the prop was fitted to I think Lycoming or Continental and not Rotax or Subaru. There are still a few spares about but watch out for spare blades where the Subaru ones turn the other way. Very well engineered propeller with little to go wrong. Check for play in the blades when it is static. It also suites the Europa flight characteristics and performs well. Mine is on a 912 and we get 125kts indicated at around 14.5 litres ph depending on load. Regards Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Panther Sent: 04 November 2010 13:55 Subject: Europa-List: NSI CAP 140 IFA prop maintenance and spares Hello group, I'm a would be Europa owner and am considering buying a plane with a Rotax 912 engine and an NSI CAP140 IFA prop. I know little about Europa's (other than they look good, fly well, and have very loyal owners,) and I know even less about this prop, other than I had heard a rumour that spares/ servicing might be a problem for UK owners. Any info on servicing, spares, pre-purchase checking (and anything else I should know) would be appreciated. Apologies if this question has been answered somewhere in the archive (I'm still learning how to drive this site) Thanks (in anticipation) Bob -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 11:43:17 AM PST US From: Alain Chabert Subject: Europa-List: Woodcomp SR2000 Hello sirs, I see on the website Europa-Club, the different propellers choice, Airmaster, woodcomp, Arplast, Warp drive, NSI.... I have woodcomp propeller SR2000 on my aircraft since 270 hours flight with total satisfaction. The French civil aviation require to me an approval document from Europa or British administration. Do you have an official approval document from Europa or British administration to use this propeller on the monowheel model? Thanks for your answer. Excuse my poor english Alain Chabert ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:32 PM PST US From: Alain Chabert Subject: Europa-List: Woodcomp SR2000 Hello sirs, I see on the website Europa-Club, the different propellers choice, Airmaster, woodcomp, Arplast, Warp drive, NSI.... I have woodcomp propeller SR2000 on my aircraft since 270 hours flight with total satisfaction. The French civil aviation require to me an approval document from Europa or British administration. Do you have an official approval document from Europa or British administration to use this propeller on the monowheel model? Thanks for your answer. Excuse my poor english ;) Alain Chabert ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:35:56 PM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Woodcomp SR2000 Alain I have attached a copy of the LAA (British Administration) which gives the prop choice for the Europa. The only standard approved prop is the ground adjustable Warp drive. Everything else (see the bottom of the document) has to be done on an individual application for each aircraft. I personally think this is unnecessary bureaucracy but I have failed to persuade LAA to change it. LAA claim they need to look at the combination of the aircraft, engine and prop to approve the combination. May I suggest you call Andy Draper at LAA and ask if he can help Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours Europa Club Mods Specialist e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:53:45 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Warp drive props From: "graeme bird" Has anyone purchased a warp drive prop recently, do they have to be ordered from the US and if so does anyone know the shipping? presumably VAT is also paid via the shipping company. Anyone have an HP-L hub to sell on? -------- Graeme Bird Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=318162#318162 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:27:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Warp drive props From: Robert Borger Graeme & others, I have decided to sell my Warp Drive prop with spinner, backing plate and hardware. It has a grand total of about 2 hours running time. Of that 1.5 hours are actual flying time. It's like new. It is the 62 inch 3-Blade Standard Carbon Fiber with HP-L Hub, white tips & 9" white fiberglass spinner/backing plate. The HP-L hub is for the Rotax 912 & 914 engine. Warp Drive ( http://www.warpdriveprops.com/ ) lists these at $785 for the prop and $175 for the spinner/backing plate. Plus $20/blade for the white tips, $55 for Rotax Mounting Hardware & $85 for 3/8" crush plate. That's $1160 new plus any shipping. I'll sell for US$910 (UK560 or 640) plus shipping. I'll be sure to include the blade protractor and instructions. If you are interested, I documented the prop installation and set-up on my web site Year #8 Q2 2009. Check six, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Tri-Gear, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S Prop http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232 http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046 Europa Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Nov 4, 2010, at 15:50, graeme bird wrote: > > Has anyone purchased a warp drive prop recently, do they have to be ordered from the US and if so does anyone know the shipping? presumably VAT is also paid via the shipping company. > > Anyone have an HP-L hub to sell on? > > -------- > Graeme Bird ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.