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1. 12:45 AM - Re: Am I the only one to have the kick-back problem? (Steade)
2. 01:00 AM - iphone apps (Richard Iddon)
3. 01:01 AM - Re: Am I the only one to have the kick-back problem? (Richard Iddon)
4. 01:16 AM - Re: iphone apps (Alan Burrill)
5. 03:39 AM - Re: iphone apps (David Joyce)
6. 06:36 AM - Re: Europa Motor Glider Info Needed (K BURNS)
7. 09:12 AM - Odyssey Battery (JonSmith)
8. 09:13 AM - Re: iphone apps (Gerry Holland)
9. 09:38 AM - Re: Odyssey Battery (Peter Rees)
10. 09:45 AM - Re: Odyssey Battery (JEFF ROBERTS)
11. 09:57 AM - Re: Odyssey Battery (LAURENS yannick)
12. 09:57 AM - Re: Odyssey Battery (Kevin Klinefelter)
13. 12:01 PM - Re: Am I the only one to have the kick-back problem? (Ralph K. Hallett III)
14. 12:10 PM - Re: Odyssey Battery (Jeff B)
15. 12:17 PM - Re: Odyssey Battery (JonSmith)
16. 02:17 PM - Re: Icing: 912S versus 912 (jpg12305)
17. 07:15 PM - Re: Odyssey Battery (Michel AUVRAY)
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| Subject: | Re: Am I the only one to have the kick-back problem? |
Remi
A friend had this problem for a long time on a Ban-Bi. It was
ultimately solved by fitting a new sprag clutch. I assume you have the
heavy duty starter motor fitted with a good battery and leads which is
the usual cure.
Regards
David Steade
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Hi Guys.
Don't know if this has already been discussed but I have treated myself to a
new iphone and wondered what apps other are using? I have already found
aeroweather and met office. Also is the Ipad a useful tool in an aircraft?
Richard Iddon G-RIXS (test flown for permit renewal yesterday!!)
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| Subject: | Am I the only one to have the kick-back problem? |
Remi.
You've probably tried this already but I had this problem until I wired in a
push button so that I can start on one mag only. No problems now.
Richard Iddon. G-RIXS
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Try pilot whizz which includes weight and balance, route planning and me tar/Taf
collection.
Alan
#0303
Sent from my iPad
On 17 Dec 2010, at 08:56, "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys.
>
> Don't know if this has already been discussed but I have treated myself to a
> new iphone and wondered what apps other are using? I have already found
> aeroweather and met office. Also is the Ipad a useful tool in an aircraft?
>
>
>
> Richard Iddon G-RIXS (test flown for permit renewal yesterday!!)
>
> <winmail.dat>
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Richard, I have an iPad and love it. It has become my European flying
companion, and I have thrown my old laptop away (or at least given it to my
wife!) I haven't tried using it in the air, preferring to do the time
consuming/distracting bits on the ground, but I guess it would work. The
only snag is that 3G services still cost an arm and a leg on the continent,
so I just use it on the hotel wifi systems. As far as apps go I find World
Aviation weather is great - Tafs & metars instantaneously for anywhere in
the world and put into readily digestible form. Apart from this I haven't
found any to supplant the various weather links on the guernseyaeroclub site
+ a great new site from Leeds (rasp.inn.leedsmet.ac.uk/RASPtable.html) which
gives cloud base predictions around the UK, including the channel
Happy Xmas, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
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From: "Richard Iddon" <riddon@sent.com>
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2010 8:56 AM
Subject: Europa-List: iphone apps
> Hi Guys.
>
> Don't know if this has already been discussed but I have treated myself to
> a
> new iphone and wondered what apps other are using? I have already found
> aeroweather and met office. Also is the Ipad a useful tool in an aircraft?
>
>
> Richard Iddon G-RIXS (test flown for permit renewal yesterday!!)
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Motor Glider Info Needed |
Thanks Karl,=0A=0AYou are correct about the wing mount interchangeability,
the solution is to make =0Aup a jig before installing the mount hard points
and use the same jig for all =0Aaircraft within the syndicate...if someone
has an aircraft that is already =0Aflying , we make the jig off his hard p
oints as mine are not yet instaled, =0Asimple!=0A=0AKevin=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___
_____________________________=0AFrom: Karl Heindl <kheindl@msn.com>=0ATo: e
uropa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, 16 December, 2010 22:34:48=0ASub
ject: RE: Europa-List: Europa Motor Glider Info Needed=0A=0AKevin, =0A=0ATr
y to locate a set that is almost complete but not yet closed. If you are re
- =0Aimporting it the LAA will want to inspect it. I don't want to sell min
e just =0A-yet.-=0AI could be wrong, but you may have problem fitting a
set of wings, long or =0Ashort, to different fuselages.=0A=0A=0Abest wishe
s,=0A=0AKarl=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0ADate: Thu, 16
Dec 2010 20:38:36 +0000=0AFrom: kjburns@btinternet.com=0ASubject: Re: Euro
pa-List: Europa Motor Glider Info Needed=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0A
=0A=0AKarl,=0A=0AI eventually wish to add a set of glider wings to my kit,
thought of setting up =0Aa Wing share Syndicate to help on the economics (A
ny UK owners please contact =0Ame), will be watching for second hand wings
also, (I can-arrange shipping from =0AUS, EU,-Canada, or down under).
=0A=0AKevin=0A=0ASailplane-pilot since 1976, Silver C and diamond Height
(UK hills do get you =0Ahigh)=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________________
_=0AFrom: Karl Heindl <kheindl@msn.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0AS
ent: Monday, 6 December, 2010 15:27:51=0ASubject: RE: Europa-List: Europa M
otor Glider Info Needed=0A=0AHi Bud, =0A=0AMy total flight time is 13 hours
in 19 flights. Modification was made to the =0Aairbrakes as I had reported
to you earlier. Results are as expected: easier =0Aairbrake handling and e
limination of any flutter.=0A=0AKarl=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________
_________________=0AFrom: budyerly@msn.com=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com
=0ASubject: Europa-List: Europa Motor Glider Info Needed=0ADate: Sun, 5 Dec
2010 20:49:31 -0500=0A=0A=0AGentlemen,=0AI need your help.- I am putting
together an updated list of MG builders.- I have =0Aattached an excel sp
readsheet and pasted the info below.- Please indicate =0Awhether you stil
l have the MG kit, set of wings or-the new owner if you sold =0Athem.=0AI
f you are flying, please indicate your total hours accumulated on your MG.
- Any =0Adetail you can forward will be appreciated as it will be used fo
r fleet data and =0Anotifications of future modifications.- Insert your i
nfo into the table below or =0Ainto the spreadsheet and I and Dave Goddard,
Europa's chief engineer will update =0Athe corporate records.=0A=0AThank y
ou all,=0A=0ABud Yerly=0AEuropa Dealer/Tech Assistance=0Apersonal email:-
budyerly@msn.com=0Awww.customflightcreations.com=0A=0AKnown or Possible Mo
tor Glider Owners=0AKit Number Last Name Address City State/Province Countr
y Status Flying Hrs. =0AA002 Agudelo, Jorge Carrera 43A No.1 Medellin - C
olombia - - =0AA026 Wood, Frank Box 1312 Pincher Creek - Alberta Cana
da - - =0AA040 Davis, Harry 9526 Secretariat Houston TX USA - - =0A
A046 Kilian, N. John 906 Park View Rd. Chelan WA USA - - =0AA069 Vaugha
n, Lee 1153 Carpenter St. Monroe IA USA - - =0AA087 mono Meshulam, Shel
don 983 Diamond Dr. Arcata CA USA - - =0AA087 mono Wilkins, Jimmy 293 C
heyenne Dr Paso Robles CA USA - - =0AA088 mono Landin, Peter 523 S Wash
ington St Easton MD USA - - =0AA102 mono Jarc, John 2000 Country Club D
r.- Daytona Beach- Fl USA - - =0AA102 mono Jarc, John 910 Friendshi
p Rd.- Seneca SC USA - - =0AA130 mono Pruyne, Kermit 732 S. Washingto
n St. Rd. Washington MA USA - - =0AA135 mono Deford, David 2143 Foxswal
low Rd Pleasanton CA USA - - =0AA158 mg/tri Wilson, John 11587 Avondale
Drive Fairfax VA USA - - =0AA160 mg Davis, Chris 37 Aunt Zilpas Rd. We
st Chatham MA USA - - =0AA162 mg/tri Neils, Rob 1005 N. Pines Rd Ste250
Spokeane WA USA - - =0AA164 mono McCleallan, William 3275 Erinlea Ave
Newbury Park CA USA - - =0AA180 mono Douglas, Dave 2402 Pebble Dr. Gran
dbury TX USA - - =0AA185 mono Butcher, Jim & Heather 3146 N. 5th St. Ka
lamazoo MI USA Under =0Aconstruction - =0A=0AA192 mono Gunnlaugson, Jim 3
102 43rd St. South Lethbridge AB Canada - - =0AA193 mono Cornell, Fred
4712 Morpis Ave Fort Worth TX USA - - =0AA197 mono Marker, Mike 384 Don
SE Los Lunas NM USA - - =0AA217 mg/mono Dunsmuir, Steven 452 Lake Barn
egat Dr. N. Forked River NJ USA - - =0AA227 mg/mono Anderson, David 101
2 Verde Way Gardenville NV USA Flying 400 =0AA233 mg/mono Kingsley, Richard
2399 Gold Mine Rd. Kershaw SC USA - - =0AA234 mg/mono Hallett, Ralph 8
719 Stonetly Ct. Reno NV USA - - =0AA240 mg Koester, Bill 185 E. Townsh
ip Line Rd. Eaton PA USA - - =0AA241 Tri Baker, Homer 17425 Edgerton Rd
. Edgerton KS USA Flying 120 =0AA244 mg/mono Lawton, Doug 139 Quitmon Lane
Clarksesville GA USA - - =0AA274 mg/mono Banhagel, John 13667 North 108
th Dr. Sun City AZ USA For Sale - =0AA277 mg Storey, Nill 3523 Van Horn R
d. Jackson MI USA - - =0AA285 Tri MG Reed, George 14220 Pinehurst Ave B
aton Rouge LA USA Flying >100 =0AA292 mg/mono Doughty, Mark 3676 Morrison A
ve Johnstown CO USA - - =0AA293 mg/mono Danner, Martin- III 9485 Ceda
r Glen Cove Cordova TN USA - - =0AUK110 Timm, Peter 9280 168 Street Sur
rey B.C. Canada - - =0AUK111- Prout, Kim 1302 N. Monte Vista #5 Uplan
d CA USA - - =0AUK223 Both, Christoph POBox 1148 Wolfville Nova Scotia
Canada - - =0AUK392 mg Heindl, Karl 21777 Concession 9 North Lacaster O
ntario Canada - - =0ATrigear Leinberger, Gary 136N. Charlottes St. Lanc
aster PA USA Under =0AConstruction - =0A=0ATrigear Friedlander, Barry -
Bolder CO USA Storage - =0AMono Bolyard, John 1200 E 3rd St. Panama City
FL USA Under Construction - =0AMono Anderson, Ben 947 Calle Camellia Sie
rra Vista AZ USA For Sale - =0A- Maher William E. PO BOX 21237 Long Bea
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Hi all,
I need to buy a battery for my aircraft but don't know much about them! A friend
recommended the Odyssey battery and I know that some people have fitted them
to their Europas.
My question is - which model is suited best to the Europa application? When I
googled Odyssey there was a perplexing array of models/ sizes etc available.
My friend's one is a PC 680. Is that considered to be a good "all rounder" and
suitable for the Europa or are there better, more suited ones available. I
don't want to buy the wrong one!
Thanks in advance, Regards,
Jon
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G-TERN
Classic Mono
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Richard Hi!
I've made my iPhone 3GS a back up device and have the following Apps loaded
.
Some are free, others quite cheap really.
I loaded and use Memory Map with CAA Maps.
The App is free and the CAA Southern Map was =A39.99.
Memory Map supports all CAA 1:500,000 and 1: 250,000 Maps as well as French
Aviation Maps.
Aeroweather (Free and Full versions are available)
NOTAMS
Wind Meter
Altimeter
Horizon
Airspeed
iHeading
A 12V Socket is needed as these Apps tend to drain iPhone battery.
All in all it's a great device and these Apps are well worth loading.
Regards
Gerry
Gerry Holland
07808 402404
gholland@content-stream.co.uk
Based at White Ox Mead, Near Bath, UK
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| Subject: | Re: Odyssey Battery |
Hi Jon
We fitted a PC680 in HI about 3 years ago - it has served us well and would
fit the same again when (if) we have to replace it.
Peter
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| Subject: | Re: Odyssey Battery |
Jon,
I've been using a 680 since my first flight. Other than my own
stupidity of leaving my master on after flying it's been trouble free.
Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
On Dec 17, 2010, at 10:55 AM, JonSmith wrote:
> >
>
> Hi all,
>
> I need to buy a battery for my aircraft but don't know much about
> them! A friend recommended the Odyssey battery and I know that some
> people have fitted them to their Europas.
>
> My question is - which model is suited best to the Europa
> application? When I googled Odyssey there was a perplexing array of
> models/ sizes etc available. My friend's one is a PC 680. Is that
> considered to be a good "all rounder" and suitable for the Europa or
> are there better, more suited ones available. I don't want to buy
> the wrong one!
>
> Thanks in advance, Regards,
>
> Jon
>
> --------
> G-TERN
> Classic Mono
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323668#323668
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Odyssey Battery |
Hi
I have the odyssey pc 545 for 1 year, and I am very satisfy with it,
no more starting problems this winter
yannick LAURENS
F PSCZ
classic mono
rotax 912
warp drive
Le 17 dc. 10 17:55, JonSmith a crit :
> >
>
> Hi all,
>
> I need to buy a battery for my aircraft but don't know much about
> them! A friend recommended the Odyssey battery and I know that some
> people have fitted them to their Europas.
>
> My question is - which model is suited best to the Europa
> application? When I googled Odyssey there was a perplexing array of
> models/ sizes etc available. My friend's one is a PC 680. Is that
> considered to be a good "all rounder" and suitable for the Europa or
> are there better, more suited ones available. I don't want to buy
> the wrong one!
>
> Thanks in advance, Regards,
>
> Jon
>
> --------
> G-TERN
> Classic Mono
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323668#323668
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Odyssey Battery |
I have the Odyssey PC 680 fitted under the baggage bay in my 914 powered XS.
The 914 relies on electric fuel pumps, so a battery of known capacity is
part of plan B if the Rotax generator or regulator quit.
I modified our Subaru Legacy to use the same battery, and that works well
too. I replace the PC 680 in the plane about every two years and put the
used one in the Subaru for the next two years. By that time the battery is
starting to show weakness during very cold weather cranking in the car,
it's time to swap again.
The PC 680 costs me about 135 bucks delivered here in California, so it's
not the cheapest solution. But at least I feel like I get good service life
out of them.
Are you replacing a battery or is this a new installation?
Kevin
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| Subject: | Re: Am I the only one to have the kick-back problem? |
Remi,
I too forgot to point out that I use a push button and one mag, the
softstart one, to start.
Ralph
On 12/17/2010 12:59 AM, Richard Iddon wrote:
>
> Remi.
>
> You've probably tried this already but I had this problem until I
> wired in a push button so that I can start on one mag only. No
> problems now.
>
> Richard Iddon. G-RIXS
>
> *
>
> *
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| Subject: | Re: Odyssey Battery |
Jon,
Your friend is correct the 680 is a fine choice...
Jeff - Baby Blue
On 12/17/2010 10:55 AM, JonSmith wrote:
> --> Europa-List message posted by: "JonSmith"<jonsmitheuropa@tiscali.co.uk>
>
> Hi all,
>
> I need to buy a battery for my aircraft but don't know much about them! A friend
recommended the Odyssey battery and I know that some people have fitted them
to their Europas.
>
> My question is - which model is suited best to the Europa application? When
I googled Odyssey there was a perplexing array of models/ sizes etc available.
My friend's one is a PC 680. Is that considered to be a good "all rounder"
and suitable for the Europa or are there better, more suited ones available.
I don't want to buy the wrong one!
>
> Thanks in advance, Regards,
>
> Jon
>
> --------
> G-TERN
> Classic Mono
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323668#323668
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Odyssey Battery |
Many thanks for the replies. Sounds like a very good recommendation, question
answered!
Regards, Jon
(ps Kevin - it's a new engine installation into an existing (previously flying)
plane!)
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G-TERN
Classic Mono
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| Subject: | Re: Icing: 912S versus 912 |
Bonjour Jean-Philippe,
This could be a good bar discussion, fueled by liters of beer...
What is strange here is that flight conditions were apparently not suited for a
significant risk of icing.
Negative OAT and 8C difference with DP makes a quite dry atmosphere. There could
have been anyway a layer close to saturation in altitude, but I am pretty sure
that in the 125h flight hours life of the engine, real potential carb icing
conditions have been encountered apparently without issue.
The rough running could have been related to something else.
I share your question about why 912S may be more prone to carb icing. One reason
of temperature drop in the carb is fuel vaporisation. The higher fuel flow of
the 912S may let think about more risk of icing? And to my level of knowledge
of CV carburettors, this means a higher depression around the diffuser lowering
temperature there as well. Open discussion.....
Anyway I stopped worrying about all that two months ago by installing the Skydrive
carb heat kit. My peace of mind increased a bit.....
Jean-Paul
Europa 332
LFEF
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| Subject: | Re: Odyssey Battery |
Le 17/12/2010 20:15, Jeff B a crit :
>
> Jon,
>
> Your friend is correct the 680 is a fine choice...
>
> Jeff - Baby Blue
>
> On 12/17/2010 10:55 AM, JonSmith wrote:
>> --> Europa-List message posted by:
>> "JonSmith"<jonsmitheuropa@tiscali.co.uk>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I need to buy a battery for my aircraft but don't know much about
>> them! A friend recommended the Odyssey battery and I know that some
>> people have fitted them to their Europas.
>>
>> My question is - which model is suited best to the Europa
>> application? When I googled Odyssey there was a perplexing array of
>> models/ sizes etc available. My friend's one is a PC 680. Is that
>> considered to be a good "all rounder" and suitable for the Europa or
>> are there better, more suited ones available. I don't want to buy
>> the wrong one!
>>
>> Thanks in advance, Regards,
>>
>> Jon
>>
>> --------
>> G-TERN
>> Classic Mono
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=323668#323668
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Hi all,
I used an Odyssey PC545 since two years, and now with 912S, this battery
is perfect. No problem
Good day
--
Michel AUVRAY
l
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