---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/27/10: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:56 AM - Europa- Dynon Skyview Autopilot - relevant UK only (Bob Fairall) 2. 04:39 AM - Re: phones for flying (David Joyce) 3. 07:05 AM - Re: phones for flying (Garry Stout) 4. 08:55 AM - Re: phones for flying (Robert Borger) 5. 09:36 AM - Rotax new flywheel hub for 912 series (Remi Guerner) 6. 08:53 PM - phones for flying (Fred Klein) 7. 11:35 PM - Re: phones for flying (Gerry Holland) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:56:50 AM PST US From: Bob Fairall Subject: Europa-List: Europa- Dynon Skyview Autopilot - relevant UK only Has any UK Europa owner evaluated / applied for / received approval for the Dynon Skyview Autopilot from and in respect of the UK LAA please? Many thanks in anticipation. Bob Fairall - no 71 & 494. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:39:30 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: phones for flying Steve, I would absolutely recommend the ipad for getting all your flight planning info and everything that you could otherwise do on a laptop, + all the books you want to read, etc. - then any old phone will do to make calls! Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steven Pitt" Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 5:15 PM Subject: Europa-List: phones for flying My mobile is coming to the end of its life so I am looking for a new one. Can anyone give recommendations especially with flying apps availability. Thanks Steve Pitt ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:05:31 AM PST US From: "Garry Stout" Subject: RE: Europa-List: phones for flying The GPS which comes with the iPad is not "aviation grade". I also bought the Bad-elf chip and my Foreflight app runs much better and more accurately. Garry Stout From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph K. Hallett III Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: phones for flying I too recommend the iPad, however, I run ForeFlight on my iPhone as well and with the GPS it works wonderfully. Very nice in a small cockpit. BTW, if you have an iPad without 3G and GPS be sure and take a look at Bad-elf.com. They have a chip which adds GPS to the iPad. Ralph On 12/26/2010 9:54 AM, Garry Stout wrote: I have no recommendation for a phone, but I do have an iPad with the Foreflight app loaded, and I absolutely love it. I won't go flying without it. Check out all the features on their website. Garry Stout From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Pitt Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 12:15 PM Subject: Europa-List: phones for flying My mobile is coming to the end of its life so I am looking for a new one. Can anyone give recommendations especially with flying apps availability. Thanks Steve Pitt www.aeroelectric.com www.buildersbooks.com www.homebuilthelp.com http://www.matronics.com/contribution http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://forums.matronics.com ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:55:27 AM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Re: Europa-List: phones for flying Gents, FWIW, Air Guide has their FlightGuide EFB for the iPhone, iPad and Mac/PC. Great for flight planning and flight monitoring. Plus it now has an aviation-grade bluetooth GPS for use with the iPad. Not inexpensive but not outrageous either. I can't rate it right now but it's what I plan to use after I get my iPad next year. Check six, Bob Borger http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL Europa XS, Short Wing, Intercooled Rotax 914 rlborger@mac.com Cel: 817-992-1117 On Dec 27, 2010, at 9:02 AM, Garry Stout wrote: > The GPS which comes with the iPad is not =93aviation grade=94. I also bought the Bad-elf chip and my Foreflight app runs much better and more accurately. > Garry Stout > > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph K. Hallett III > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 8:04 PM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Europa-List: phones for flying > > I too recommend the iPad, however, I run ForeFlight on my iPhone as well and with the GPS it works wonderfully. Very nice in a small cockpit. > BTW, if you have an iPad without 3G and GPS be sure and take a look at Bad-elf.com. They have a chip which adds GPS to the iPad. > > Ralph > > On 12/26/2010 9:54 AM, Garry Stout wrote: > I have no recommendation for a phone, but I do have an iPad with the Foreflight app loaded, and I absolutely love it. I won=92t go flying without it. Check out all the features on their website. > > Garry Stout > > > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Pitt > Sent: Sunday, December 26, 2010 12:15 PM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: phones for flying > > My mobile is coming to the end of its life so I am looking for a new one. Can anyone give recommendations especially with flying apps availability. > Thanks > Steve Pitt > > > > www.aeroelectric.com > www.buildersbooks.com > www.homebuilthelp.com > http://www.matronics.com/contribution > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List > http://forums.matronics.com > > > > ================ > www.aeroelectric.com http://www.matron============== =====< - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS via the Web --> http://forums.matronics.com==== > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:36:56 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Rotax new flywheel hub for 912 series From: "Remi Guerner" Hi all, This is the copy of the message I just posted on the Rotax forum: Rotax has recently introduced a new fly wheel hub with lengthened trigger cams which change the ignition timing during starting. This is described in SI-912-020 R4, section 74-00-00, page 1 and 4. With the new hub, ignition timing during the starting phase will be 3 degrees after TDC instead of 4 degrees before TDC. I am very interested in doing this mod on my 912ULS as it should prevent any possibility of kicking back. However I am puzzled by the dimensions shown on the drawing on page 4. The drawing says the old cams are 22 mm long and the new ones are 29 mm long. I measured the length of the cams on my 6 year old engine: they are 30 mm long! I also did the maths: the radius of the flywheel cams is 78 mm, so 1 degree rotation moves the cam edges 1.36 mm. From 4 to 26 degrees, that is 22 degrees difference, the length should be 1.36x22=29.95. So i believe my hub is good and the Rotax drawing is wrong. I have 2 questions: - to anyone who has access to the back of his engine: could you please remove the 3 screws which hold the plastic cover and measure the developed length of the cams. - to any one who have the new flywheel hub: please do the same. According to the SI, engines fitted with the new flywheel hub start with the following serial numbers: 912S: from S/N 4,923,847 912ULS and ULSFR: from 6,775,360 Waiting for your answers Regards Remi Guerner F-FGKL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=324674#324674 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:53:41 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Europa-List: phones for flying Given limited battery life of iPad/iPhone, has anyone found a cord which can plug directly into a 12v power source, and a receptacle which could be wired into and located on the instrument panel? (I'm told the iPad wants 1.5 amps) Thanks, Fred ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:32 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: phones for flying From: Gerry Holland Fred Hi! Not being flippant but everything has a limited battery life. You are quite right when you say the iPhone battery charge can dissipate fairly quickly when using something like Memory Map as a navigational back up. Possibly as low as 4 hours or less. I do have a 12V Auxiliary connection to mine from a 7Amp Hour Battery Box as I have no electrics from the Aircraft. It's old and basic and not a Europa. I have a iPad at home and the battery life on that is very good, lasting about 15 hours in constant use although it could be less as navigation device. It too can have auxiliary 12V supply. These supplies are normally connected via Aux or Cigarette Lighter connection. I used a RAM iPhone Holder purchased from Aircraft Spruce. The iPad has similar holder. When using iPhone as navigational device turn off 3GS connection to conserve battery life. For iPad Holder look at: http://www.xtrdesign.co.uk/XTR_Design/Welcome.html http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/ramholap8lu.php For iPhone: http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/avpages/ramholap9u.php Hope that helps. The iPhone is an excellent BACK UP for navigation as well as many other aviation Apps to use. AeroWeather is a must. 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