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1. 01:27 AM - Re: painting a plated engine mount frame (Brian Davies)
2. 01:59 AM - Re: painting a plated engine mount frame (flyingphil2)
3. 02:45 AM - Re: Electric Flap (flyingphil2)
4. 03:24 PM - Rough River Vote needed (JEFF ROBERTS)
5. 03:53 PM - Re: Rough River Vote needed (Robert Borger)
6. 06:34 PM - Re: Rough River Vote needed (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
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Subject: | painting a plated engine mount frame |
Hi Graham,
In my book, extra firewall insulation and additional painting are optional
extras. I think the old adage says " when deciding if an optional item is
worth fitting, toss it in the air and if it falls to the ground it is too
heavy to fit" Weight is the real enemy of aircraft performance.
I learned this the hard way and have lots of nice extras, but my wife can
take hardly any baggage on our trips. My stuff is essential, of course.
Regards
Brian Davies
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of graeme bird
Sent: 02 February 2011 18:24
Subject: Europa-List: painting a plated engine mount frame
my FWFD kit from europa as well as other manufactured parts that have
arrived recently are plated with cadmium or something similar- bits like the
engine mount frame. Can anyone tell me if I should paint these and if so, is
it ok to use the normal aircraft metal etch primer. I would then add the
normal two pack poly paints.
ALSO, I am still not clear whether it would be a good idea to coat the
firewall GRP with sticky backed foil/insulation or foil of somekind, I have
seen something like this in some of the pictures.
Help appreciated.
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Graeme Bird
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Subject: | Re: painting a plated engine mount frame |
Hi Graeme,
The parts you have are zinc plated (I believe the drawing calls for 'ZN8-10 CHROMATE
PASSIVATE AND TOP COAT').
So, you don't need to paint these as the coating will protect them.
However, as Bud says, it is very easy to scratch this coating when working with
the parts. If you do scratch anything then I'd touch up with some zinc rich
primer or something like that. Also, as Bud says, the ACP 50 stuff is very good
and a light coating of this will protect the parts.
Phil
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Subject: | Re: Electric Flap |
That looks interesting as well. Thanks Ivor.
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Subject: | Rough River Vote needed |
Hi All,
Here are the dates available.
1st Option. We could consider doing our fly-in on the Labor day weekend as they're
pretty open September 2 & 3rd. They have plenty of rooms left and 7 cabins.
2nd. The weekend of the 9th & 10th is when Sport Aviation would be there. They
only have 6 lodge rooms left and 6 smaller cabins left. That may make it tough
for those wanting to commit late. Plus the field would be quit busy as far as
getting to park our Europa's together. However their woul be lots of other planes
to keep us entertained.
The weekend of the 16th & 17th is booked solid and there is nothing available.
So doing what we did last year two weeks after Labor day is out.
3rd. September 23 & 24 they only have 15 lodge rooms and 2 cabins so that weekend
is tight. Looks like the closer to fall the more booked they are.
My suggestion and vote would be option 1 and do it on Labor day weekend the 2nd
& 3rd. That way anyone wanting can even stay Sunday night then fly home on Monday.
This could give the faraway flyers an extra day to get home. Some may have
family obligations with the holiday though.
The only other option would be to go for September 30th & October 1st but... Weather?
I think we all need to chime in here on your thoughts and vote. Whatever is best
for the group let me know and I'll get it booked. As far as a meeting & eating
room I'll go for what they have when we decide on the weekend. Worst case
would be the airport... Not bad.
Regards,
Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
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Subject: | Re: Rough River Vote needed |
Jeff,
Well, not much choice is there. Our first vote is Labor Day Weekend. Second choice
is weekend after Labor Day.
Bob & Maureen Borger
Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Tri-Gear, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S Prop
http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232
http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046
Europa Flying!
3705 Lynchburg Dr.
Corinth, TX 76208
Home: 940-497-2123
Cel: 817-992-1117
On Feb 3, 2011, at 17:16, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Here are the dates available.
>
> 1st Option. We could consider doing our fly-in on the Labor day weekend as they're
pretty open September 2 & 3rd. They have plenty of rooms left and 7 cabins.
>
> 2nd. The weekend of the 9th & 10th is when Sport Aviation would be there. They
only have 6 lodge rooms left and 6 smaller cabins left. That may make it tough
for those wanting to commit late. Plus the field would be quit busy as far
as getting to park our Europa's together. However their woul be lots of other
planes to keep us entertained.
>
> The weekend of the 16th & 17th is booked solid and there is nothing available.
So doing what we did last year two weeks after Labor day is out.
>
> 3rd. September 23 & 24 they only have 15 lodge rooms and 2 cabins so that weekend
is tight. Looks like the closer to fall the more booked they are.
>
> My suggestion and vote would be option 1 and do it on Labor day weekend the 2nd
& 3rd. That way anyone wanting can even stay Sunday night then fly home on
Monday. This could give the faraway flyers an extra day to get home. Some may
have family obligations with the holiday though.
>
> The only other option would be to go for September 30th & October 1st but...
Weather?
>
> I think we all need to chime in here on your thoughts and vote. Whatever is
best for the group let me know and I'll get it booked. As far as a meeting & eating
room I'll go for what they have when we decide on the weekend. Worst case
would be the airport... Not bad.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
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Subject: | Re: Rough River Vote needed |
Jeff-
Lynne and I would prefer Labor Day weekend but any of the others would work
.=C2- The closer we get to winter, the greater the chance of bad weather,
which has pretty much killed it in past years.
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "JEFF ROBERTS" <Jeff@rmmm.net>
Sent: Thursday, February 3, 2011 6:16:58 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Rough River Vote needed
Hi All,
Here are the dates available.
1st Option. We could consider doing our fly-in on the Labor day weekend as
they're pretty open September 2 & 3rd. They have plenty of rooms left and 7
cabins.
2nd. The weekend of the 9th & 10th is when Sport Aviation would be there. T
hey only have 6 lodge rooms left and 6 smaller cabins left. That may make i
t tough for those wanting to commit late. Plus the field would be quit busy
as far as getting to park our Europa's together. However their woul be lot
s of other planes to keep us entertained.
The weekend of the 16th & 17th is booked solid and there is nothing availab
le. So doing what we did last year two weeks after Labor day is out.
3rd. September 23 & 24 they only have 15 lodge rooms and 2 cabins so that w
eekend is tight. Looks like the closer to fall the more booked they are.
My suggestion and vote would be option 1 and do it on Labor day weekend the
2nd & 3rd. That way anyone wanting can even stay Sunday night then fly hom
e on Monday. This could give the faraway flyers an extra day to get home. S
ome may have family obligations with the holiday though.
The only other option would be to go for September 30th & October 1st but..
. Weather?
I think we all need to chime in here on your thoughts and vote. =C2-Whate
ver is best for the group let me know and I'll get it booked. As far as a m
eeting & eating room I'll go for what they have when we decide on the weeke
nd. =C2-Worst case would be the airport... Not bad.
Regards,
Jeff R. =C2-N128LJ Gold Rush
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