---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/17/11: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:44 AM - Airmaster failure (Europa) 2. 11:20 AM - Re: Airmaster failure (G-IANI) 3. 02:05 PM - Re: mono support when derigged (Carl Pattinson) 4. 02:09 PM - Re: Airmaster failure (Europa) 5. 02:12 PM - Re: Re: G-GIDY (Europa) 6. 03:45 PM - Re: Airmaster failure (JR Gowing) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:44:38 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Airmaster failure From: Europa Just had an open circuit failure of our Airmaster CS prop. Upon investigation one of studs providing wire connection from the slip rings to the pitch motor (the green wire) has sheared off! No apparent damage to inside of spinner or blades and obviously no evidence of the sheared bit of stud. Anyone seen anything similar or any other thoughts. Just recovered aircraft to workshop to investigate potential for repair. Regards Paul G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:20:56 AM PST US From: "G-IANI" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Airmaster failure Paul Do you mean a stud or was it one of the carbon "brushes" that run on the slip ring. These do wear out over time and the wear is not even so one goes before the others (I have had to change one of mine). Three spare "brushes" are usually shipped with the prop. Changing them is not difficult but does involve soldering. I have a spare. If you want to talk it through you can ring me on 01483 714096 Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours Europa Club Mods Specialist e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa Sent: 17 February 2011 18:43 Subject: Europa-List: Airmaster failure Just had an open circuit failure of our Airmaster CS prop. Upon investigation one of studs providing wire connection from the slip rings to the pitch motor (the green wire) has sheared off! No apparent damage to inside of spinner or blades and obviously no evidence of the sheared bit of stud. Anyone seen anything similar or any other thoughts. Just recovered aircraft to workshop to investigate potential for repair. Regards Paul G-GIDY ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:48 PM PST US From: "Carl Pattinson" Subject: RE: Europa-List: mono support when derigged Sooner or later (once your Europa is flying) you will need to raise/ lift the fuselage. One solution to purchase a hydraulic engine hoist - new on Ebay for 125 or s/h for less. Use the engine mounting frame as an attachment point. Obviously there are cheaper options but we find ours invaluable as the only practical way to inspect and overhaul the undercarriage. Carl & Dot G-LABS -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of graeme bird Sent: 16 February 2011 22:43 Subject: Europa-List: mono support when derigged What do folk use to support a mono fuselage when de-rigged, I have something for the build so I can raise the wheel but what about when I need to move it when the cowls are on etc, is there a standard solution? -------- Graeme Bird Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331279#331279 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:09:22 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Airmaster failure From: Europa Thanks Ian but it's not the brushes. On the 'prop side' of the base plate the 3 slip rings each have a brass stud to which a wire is attached then running to the pitch motor. It is one of these studs which has sheared. If I get chance to take some I'll post a picture. Regards Paul On 17/2/11 19:15, "G-IANI" wrote: > > Paul > > Do you mean a stud or was it one of the carbon "brushes" that run on the > slip ring. These do wear out over time and the wear is not even so one goes > before the others (I have had to change one of mine). Three spare "brushes" > are usually shipped with the prop. Changing them is not difficult but does > involve soldering. I have a spare. If you want to talk it through you can > ring me on 01483 714096 > > > > Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours > Europa Club Mods Specialist > e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa > Sent: 17 February 2011 18:43 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Airmaster failure > > > Just had an open circuit failure of our Airmaster CS prop. Upon > investigation one of studs providing wire connection from the slip rings to > the pitch motor (the green wire) has sheared off! > > No apparent damage to inside of spinner or blades and obviously no evidence > of the sheared bit of stud. > > Anyone seen anything similar or any other thoughts. > > Just recovered aircraft to workshop to investigate potential for repair. > > Regards > > Paul > G-GIDY > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:12:27 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: G-GIDY From: Europa Graham Thank you - it's vinyl. Welcome to talk to us. Paul 01283 734844 Richard ( who organized the decals) 01283 733269 On 13/2/11 21:57, "graeme bird" wrote: > > Congratulations, I like the ribbon artwork, I'd be interested in talking to > one of the group about if it vinyl or painted. > > -------- > Graeme Bird > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=330934#330934 > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:06 PM PST US From: "JR Gowing" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Airmaster failure Dear Paul of G-GIDY It is interesting that you say sheared off instead of "cracked" off! Is there anything there that could cut it off! Or do you think it it just vibrated and fell off? Since I am just ordering I am very interested. JR Gowing Europa 327 in Oz From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Europa Sent: Friday, 18 February 2011 5:43 AM Subject: Europa-List: Airmaster failure Just had an open circuit failure of our Airmaster CS prop. Upon investigation one of studs providing wire connection from the slip rings to the pitch motor (the green wire) has sheared off! No apparent damage to inside of spinner or blades and obviously no evidence of the sheared bit of stud. Anyone seen anything similar or any other thoughts. Just recovered aircraft to workshop to investigate potential for repair. Regards Paul G-GIDY _____ No virus found in this message. 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