---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/23/11: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:15 AM - Re: NZ (Steven Pitt) 2. 12:38 AM - Re: NZ (Bill Sisley) 3. 01:55 AM - Re: NZ (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 4. 09:43 AM - Which fuel guage system (graeme bird) 5. 12:13 PM - Safety and helmets (William Daniell) 6. 02:54 PM - Re: Safety and helmets (David Joyce) 7. 03:45 PM - Re: Safety and helmets (Robert Borger) 8. 06:15 PM - Earthquake Christchurch (Tim Ward) 9. 06:33 PM - Re: Earthquake Christchurch (Robert Borger) 10. 07:37 PM - Re: Earthquake Christchurch (Kingsley Hurst) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:15:05 AM PST US From: "Steven Pitt" Subject: Re: Europa-List: NZ John Wheeler is in New Zealand at present but I do not know where so I hope he is OK. Steve Pitt G-SMDH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Iddon" Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 7:10 AM Subject: Europa-List: NZ > > Anyone heard from Tim ward in NZ. He lives near Christchurch. Wondering > how he fare in the earthquake. > > Richard Iddon G-RIXS > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:38:49 AM PST US From: Bill Sisley Subject: Re: Europa-List: NZ Richard, Have just heard through Gavin Lee confirmation that Tim and family are all ok. Sue& Bill Sisley ZK CHV On 23/02/2011 8:10 p.m., Richard Iddon wrote: > --> Europa-List message posted by: Richard Iddon > > Anyone heard from Tim ward in NZ. He lives near Christchurch. Wondering how he fare in the earthquake. > > Richard Iddon G-RIXS > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:55:13 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: NZ I would guess the internet is down in Christcurch so not surpising we haven 't =0Aheard from Tim=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______________________________ _=0AFrom: Bill Sisley =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.c om=0ASent: Wednesday, 23 February, 2011 8:25:26=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: .nz>=0A=0ARichard, Have just heard through Gavin Lee confirmation that Tim and =0Afamily are all ok.=0A=0ASue& Bill Sisley=0AZK CHV=0A=0A=0AOn 23/02/ 2011 8:10 p.m., Richard Iddon wrote:=0A> --> Europa-List message posted by : Richard Iddon=0A>=0A> Anyone heard from Tim ward in NZ. He lives near Christchurch. Wondering how he =0A>fare in the earthquake.=0A =========================0A ====== ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:43:50 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Which fuel guage system From: "graeme bird" I'd like to fit a fuel gauge as well as two sight gauges behind the seats, its all built so its a retro fit. Also I'd prefer a linear gauge to eight segments. Any advice on the best solution? I have looked at the mod but cant see if the 4" hole to be cut is within the headrest section or just outside of it. I am in the UK -------- Graeme Bird Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=331944#331944 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:13:52 PM PST US From: "William Daniell" Subject: Europa-List: Safety and helmets Probably opening a can of worms but anyway here goes. I read in the most recent AOPA report it mentions the FAA study of 647 accidents of which 133 were fatal in Alaska between 2004 and 2009. The FAA mentions 20 of the 133 could have been prevented by shoulder harnesses - not particular surprise there. 38 of the 133 could have been prevent by inflatable restraints...this was a new one for me. Anyone else know anything about this? 33 of the 133 could have been prevents by the wearing of helmets - slightly surprised but at the same time it seems logical. 12 of the 133 could have been saved by ELT - again not particularly surprising in Alaska. I thought the inflatable restraints and the helmets point were quite interesting. Does anyone wear a helmet and if so what type? Does anyone know anything about inflatable restraints? Will ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:54:59 PM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Safety and helmets Will, Probably 70 of them could have been prevented by eliminating pilot error! The military wear helmets and at least historically their accident rates I believe have been higher than civil ones. I wouldn't want to make a thesis of that, but I do believe there have been serious research findings that show that in recreational pursuits, risk taking by the people involved tends to increase until the perceived level of risk reaches the level the individual enjoys - which suggests that if helmets are worn and the individual feels protected his level of risk taking might increase too, and the number of pilot error crashes will increase! Quite apart from that I don't fancy one, nor yet a parachute! Happy landings, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ----- Original Message ----- From: "William Daniell" Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 8:10 PM Subject: Europa-List: Safety and helmets > > Probably opening a can of worms but anyway here goes. > > I read in the most recent AOPA report it mentions the FAA study of 647 > accidents of which 133 were fatal in Alaska between 2004 and 2009. > > The FAA mentions 20 of the 133 could have been prevented by shoulder > harnesses - not particular surprise there. > > 38 of the 133 could have been prevent by inflatable restraints...this was > a > new one for me. Anyone else know anything about this? > > 33 of the 133 could have been prevents by the wearing of helmets - > slightly > surprised but at the same time it seems logical. > > 12 of the 133 could have been saved by ELT - again not particularly > surprising in Alaska. > > I thought the inflatable restraints and the helmets point were quite > interesting. Does anyone wear a helmet and if so what type? Does anyone > know anything about inflatable restraints? > > Will > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:30 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Safety and helmets From: Robert Borger William, No helmet or parachute when flying the Europa. But I do wear both helmet and parachute when flying the Little Toot Sport Biplane as I may get the dirty side up on occasion. My helmet is the typical white bone dome with drop down sun visor and integral head set & mic. Don't see that it's of great necessity in the Europa, but it wouldn't hurt anything to wear it if it makes you feel safer. Besides, if I wore it in the Europa, my wife would have to have one as well. Come to think about it, she'd be cute in helmet and flight suit. May have to think about that. For information on the airbags just do a Google search on "general aviation airbags" and there's plenty of info out there. Blue skies & tailwinds, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Tri-Gear, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S Prop http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232 http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046 Europa Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Feb 23, 2011, at 14:10, William Daniell wrote: > > Probably opening a can of worms but anyway here goes. > > I read in the most recent AOPA report it mentions the FAA study of 647 > accidents of which 133 were fatal in Alaska between 2004 and 2009. > > The FAA mentions 20 of the 133 could have been prevented by shoulder > harnesses - not particular surprise there. > > 38 of the 133 could have been prevent by inflatable restraints...this was a > new one for me. Anyone else know anything about this? > > 33 of the 133 could have been prevents by the wearing of helmets - slightly > surprised but at the same time it seems logical. > > 12 of the 133 could have been saved by ELT - again not particularly > surprising in Alaska. > > I thought the inflatable restraints and the helmets point were quite > interesting. Does anyone wear a helmet and if so what type? Does anyone > know anything about inflatable restraints? > > Will ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:15:00 PM PST US From: "Tim Ward" Subject: Europa-List: Earthquake Christchurch Dear All, Many thanks for your kind enquiries about the earthquake in Christchurch. I was here and it was frightening. More of a lateral shaking then the Sept 4th 2010. Three separate ones 6.3, 5.7 , 5.2 all scary stuff. After fetching the children from school we got out of the city and drove down to Geraldine as we didn=99t has water, electricity or sewage. The inner city is a mess, a real mess. I lost a chimney only. The family are all ok. We now have electricity however the sewage system has been destroyed with a lot of liquifaction, little volcano shaped ground rock-silt coming to the surface. Big mess in the eastern part of the city. Best thing is to stay out of the city so you don=99t use the sewage system,water and get a good nights sleep without after shocks!! My little girl has been quite traumatised by it, well we all have actually; the unexpected, the unnerving and how helpless one can be. The earth is angry at the moment!! And, of course, ZK-TIM slept right through it!! Thanks again, Tim Tim Ward, 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch 8052 New Zealand Ph; 03 3515166 Mob; 0210640221 email; ward.t@xtra.co.nz ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:33:14 PM PST US From: Robert Borger Subject: Re: Europa-List: Earthquake Christchurch Tim, Thanks so much for the update. Glad to hear you and the family are safe. Our prayers are with you and the folks of Christchurch. Take care, Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Tri-Gear, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S Prop http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232 http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046 Europa Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Feb 23, 2011, at 20:11, Tim Ward wrote: > Dear All, > Many thanks for your kind enquiries about the earthquake in Christchurch. > I was here and it was frightening. More of a lateral shaking then the Sept 4th 2010. Three separate ones 6.3, 5.7 , 5.2 all scary stuff. > After fetching the children from school we got out of the city and drove down to Geraldine as we didn=92t has water, electricity or sewage. > The inner city is a mess, a real mess. I lost a chimney only. The family are all ok. > We now have electricity however the sewage system has been destroyed with a lot of liquifaction, little volcano shaped > ground rock-silt coming to the surface. Big mess in the eastern part of the city. Best thing is to stay out of the city so you don=92t use the sewage system,water > and get a good nights sleep without after shocks!! My little girl has been quite traumatised by it, well we all have > actually; the unexpected, the unnerving and how helpless one can be. The earth is angry at the moment!! > > And, of course, ZK-TIM slept right through it!! > > Thanks again, > > Tim > > > Tim Ward, > 12 Waiwetu Street, > Fendalton, > Christchurch 8052 > New Zealand > > Ph; 03 3515166 > Mob; 0210640221 > > email; ward.t@xtra.co.nz > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 07:37:38 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Earthquake Christchurch Tim, Didn't know you were in the thick of it all so am very pleased to hear you and yours are unharmed. (physically at least) My sum total experience with earthquakes was a tremor one morning in Vanuatu and a demo on the earthquake simulator at the Brisbane Expo in 1988. I thought the simulator might have been a bit far fetched at the time but I now take that all back. Thanks for lettting us know Tim and hope you and your family get through it all with no problems in the longer term. Best regards Kingsley do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Ward To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:11 PM Subject: Europa-List: Earthquake Christchurch Dear All, Many thanks for your kind enquiries about the earthquake in Christchurch. I was here and it was frightening. More of a lateral shaking then the Sept 4th 2010. Three separate ones 6.3, 5.7 , 5.2 all scary stuff. After fetching the children from school we got out of the city and drove down to Geraldine as we didn=99t has water, electricity or sewage. The inner city is a mess, a real mess. I lost a chimney only. The family are all ok. We now have electricity however the sewage system has been destroyed with a lot of liquifaction, little volcano shaped ground rock-silt coming to the surface. Big mess in the eastern part of the city. Best thing is to stay out of the city so you don=99t use the sewage system,water and get a good nights sleep without after shocks!! My little girl has been quite traumatised by it, well we all have actually; the unexpected, the unnerving and how helpless one can be. The earth is angry at the moment!! And, of course, ZK-TIM slept right through it!! Thanks again, Tim Tim Ward, 12 Waiwetu Street, Fendalton, Christchurch 8052 New Zealand Ph; 03 3515166 Mob; 0210640221 email; ward.t@xtra.co.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.