---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/03/11: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:17 AM - Re: Rotax 914 Turbo - TCU Amber light Blinking (K Dilks) 2. 06:13 AM - Re: Re: tp9/tp10 retention (Roger Bull) 3. 10:07 AM - Re: Re: tp9/tp10 retention (Michel AUVRAY) 4. 08:01 PM - Re: Re: tp9/tp10 retention (Kingsley Hurst) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:17:33 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Rotax 914 Turbo - TCU Amber light Blinking From: "K Dilks" Check the static air pressure sensor and air box pressure sensor connections. Blow the connectors out with air and to the same with the TCU unit,. Is you TCU mounted with the plug upwards on the mast if so be very careful with water and blow out with air . Good luck kevin -------- Back home ................. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332601#332601 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:13:54 AM PST US From: "Roger Bull" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: tp9/tp10 retention Hi Richard, Although now retired I still follow the forum, so I noticed your query. The new torque tube only came in shortly before I retired at Xmas 2009, say mid 2009 from memory, so yours will definitely not be the new heavier one. Best wishes for the build, Roger Bull ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Churchill-Coleman To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2011 5:44 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: tp9/tp10 retention Hi Phil I received a mono kit from Roger in late 2007 and I'm ashamed to say that I haven't touched the torque tube yet to know if it is the heavier version you describe - and I haven't seen a revised build manual or Mod 73 exemption that would take it into account - please can you tell me when did you get the new version from Roger, to give me a guide as to whether mine might be the new version with my kit? Thanks regards Richard On 1 March 2011 16:56, flyingphil2 wrote: Hi Rowland, With regards to the new re-designed torque tube then I have one of these. As Roger put it to me, the new torque tube no longer has any torque. Basically the whole design has been beefed up and there are now only 2 pins involved, not 4, see attached photo. My main concern when I received this was the weight increase. My numbers are below: Old Tube: TP4 - 1350g 2 x TP5 & TP6 - 270g TP9 - 200g 2 x TP12 - 800g Total = 2.620kg or 5.776lb New Tube: TP4 - 1330g 2 x TP5 & TP6 - 330g TP9 - 1250g 2 x TP12 - 1060g Total = 3.970kg or 8.752lb - 52% above original. NB. (Pat Tunney's clamps would add 0.4kg bringing an original assembly to 3.0kg). My mind was originally put at rest when I was told that monos (or conventional taildraggers as my aircraft is likely to be) like having an aft c of g and so this additional weight at the back would be ok. I tried not to think about it too much and decided it would be ok ...... Hope that helps. Regards, Phil Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332375#332375 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com=== y Browse, Chat, FAQ, ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List" target="_blank">http:==== http://forums.mle, List Admin. ==== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:07:54 AM PST US From: Michel AUVRAY Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: tp9/tp10 retention Le 03/03/2011 15:10, Roger Bull a crit : > Hi Richard, > Although now retired I still follow the forum, so I noticed your query. > The new torque tube only came in shortly before I retired at Xmas > 2009, say mid 2009 from memory, so yours will definitely not be the > new heavier one. > Best wishes for the build, > Roger Bull > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Richard Churchill-Coleman > > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 01, 2011 5:44 PM > *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Re: tp9/tp10 retention > > Hi Phil > I received a mono kit from Roger in late 2007 and I'm ashamed to > say that I haven't touched the torque tube yet to know if it is > the heavier version you describe - and I haven't seen a revised > build manual or Mod 73 exemption that would take it into account - > please can you tell me when did you get the new version from > Roger, to give me a guide as to whether mine might be the new > version with my kit? > Thanks > regards > Richard > > On 1 March 2011 16:56, flyingphil2 > wrote: > > > > > Hi Rowland, > > With regards to the new re-designed torque tube then I have > one of these. As Roger put it to me, the new torque tube no > longer has any torque. > > Basically the whole design has been beefed up and there are > now only 2 pins involved, not 4, see attached photo. > > My main concern when I received this was the weight increase. > My numbers are below: > > Old Tube: > > TP4 - 1350g > 2 x TP5 & TP6 - 270g > TP9 - 200g > 2 x TP12 - 800g > Total = 2.620kg or 5.776lb > > New Tube: > > TP4 - 1330g > 2 x TP5 & TP6 - 330g > TP9 - 1250g > 2 x TP12 - 1060g > Total = 3.970kg or 8.752lb - 52% above original. > > NB. (Pat Tunney's clamps would add 0.4kg bringing an original > assembly to 3.0kg). > > My mind was originally put at rest when I was told that monos > (or conventional taildraggers as my aircraft is likely to be) > like having an aft c of g and so this additional weight at the > back would be ok. I tried not to think about it too much and > decided it would be ok ...... > > Hope that helps. > > Regards, > > Phil > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332375#332375 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com=== > y Browse, Chat, FAQ, > ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List" > target="_blank">http:==== > http://forums.mle, > List Admin. > ==== > > > > > > > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com* > *href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c > * > > * > > > * Hi Roger, I am also retired, now the life is good for me, I hope it is the same thing for you. Regards -- Michel AUVRAY l -----(*)----- ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:01:07 PM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: tp9/tp10 retention G'day Roger, greetings from Oz. Nice to know your'e still lurking on the list. Now please tell me retirement is good . . . . mine is very imminent too! Cheers Kingsley do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Bull To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 12:10 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: tp9/tp10 retention Hi Richard, Although now retired I still follow the forum, so I noticed your query. The new torque tube only came in shortly before I retired at Xmas 2009, say mid 2009 from memory, so yours will definitely not be the new heavier one. 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