---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sun 03/06/11: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:41 AM - Re: Retirement - off topic (Kingsley Hurst) 2. 02:50 AM - Fw: Retirement - off topic (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 3. 12:42 PM - cowl cutting - bak edge (graeme bird) 4. 02:05 PM - Re: Antenna tuning (graeme bird) 5. 02:36 PM - Re: Re: Antenna tuning (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 6. 03:08 PM - Re: Retirement - off topic (JR Gowing) 7. 03:15 PM - Re: Re: Antenna tuning (JR Gowing) 8. 03:17 PM - Re: Help a brother out? Info request (Bud Yerly) 9. 04:40 PM - Re: cowl cutting - bak edge (Bud Yerly) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:41:14 AM PST US From: "Kingsley Hurst" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Retirement - off topic Retirement - off topicThank you so much for your words of wisdom Ferg . . . . I feel much better now! Gee, I can relate to most of it already while still in pre retirement mode. You are indeed a character mate and I love your sense of humour. Cheers Kingsley do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: Fergus Kyle To: 5EUROPALIST Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:36 AM Subject: Europa-List: Retirement - off topic Kingsley, I see you are anxious regarding impending retirement and I write to console you. I realise that this is not 'company business' and will not repeat. I have been retired for 22 years. My wife has not. The first item is the weekly calendar which consists of: Saturday, Church, Garbage, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday and Saturday. The last day of the week is: Yesterday. Everything must be done today - see Yesterday. Routines assume immense proportions since there would be no room for Previous Work.. Hourly wage values approach zero since such that you will spend 4 hours saving a dollar/euro/pound - a bargain. Everything based on Forever takes on new meaning. A 20-year investment has no meaning. - in fact, an annual subscription calls for Board Approval. To save a marriage, attempt to find a third person for the Board. Happy Sailing, Ferg Do not archive ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:50:54 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Fw: Europa-List: Retirement - off topic everyone who knows Ferg loves his humour too and the wisdom it carries!=0AG raham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Forwarded Message ----=0AFrom: Kingsley Hurst =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sunday, 6 M arch, 2011 10:36:04=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Retirement - off topic=0A =0ARetirement - off topic =0AThank you so much for your words of wisdom Fe rg . . . . I feel much better =0Anow! Gee, I can relate to most of it al ready while still in pre retirement =0Amode.=0A =0AYou are indeed a charac ter mate and I love your sense of humour.=0A =0ACheers=0AKingsley=0A =0Ado not archive.=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A>From: Fergus Kyle =0A>To: 5EUROPALIST =0A>Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:36 AM=0A>Subject: Europ a-List: Retirement - off topic=0A>=0A>=0A>Kingsley,=0A> I see you are an xious regarding impending retirement andIwrite to console =0A>you. I rea lise that this is not=98company business=99and will not repeat.=0A> I have been retired for 22 years. My wife has not. =0A> The first item is the weekly calendar which consists of:=0A> Saturday, Church, Garbage, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday and Saturday. Th e =0A>last day of the week is:Yesterday. Everything must be done tod ay=93see =0A>Yesterday.Routines assume immense proportionssincethe re would be no room =0A>forPrevious Work..Hourlywage values approach zer o since such thatyouwill spend 4 =0A>hours saving a dollar/euro/pound =93abargain.=0A> Everything based on Forever takes on new meaning . A 20-year =0A>investmenthas no meaning.=93in fact, an annual subscription calls for Board =0A>Approval. To save a marriage, attempt t o find a third person for the Board.=0A>Happy Sailing,=0A>Ferg=0A>Do notarc =============== =0A ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:42:38 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: cowl cutting - bak edge From: "graeme bird" before I cut the back edge of the XS cowl for a 912S I'd like to check that its normal to take about 2mm off the port side and 12 mm off the starboard. I realise the engine is 1.5 off to starboard but I dont know if the cowl design caters for this already. My engine didnt need any adjustment washers and I measured the angle at 1.57 deg. Thanks -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332929#332929 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:05:42 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Antenna tuning From: "graeme bird" Interesting and relevant stuff to me - but, the ferrite's in the manual from Phillips are now obsolete, does anyone know what can be used instead. Are they critical for matching the dipole to the 50ohm cable transceiver as a balun or is it just ballast/supression at the cable end? Thanks Graeme -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332935#332935 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:44 PM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Antenna tuning Ferg Kyle might know?=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________________ __=0AFrom: graeme bird =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, 6 March, 2011 22:01:09=0ASubject: Europa-List: Re: Antenna .co.uk>=0A=0AInteresting and relevant stuff to me - but, the ferrite's in t he manual from =0APhillips are now obsolete, does anyone know what can be u sed instead. Are they =0Acritical for matching the dipole to the 50ohm cabl e transceiver as a balun or is =0Ait just ballast/supression at the cable e nd?=0A=0AThanks Graeme=0A=0A--------=0AGraeme Bird=0AG-UMPY=0AMono Classic/ XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP=0ABuild nearing completion=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p= = ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:08:59 PM PST US From: "JR Gowing" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Retirement - off topic Ferg The list will never be the same! I am another who will miss your experience- backed comments! JR (Bob) Gowing Kit 327 in Oz But a long way south from Kingsley. Do not archive From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRAHAM SINGLETON Sent: Sunday, 6 March 2011 9:47 PM Subject: Fw: Europa-List: Retirement - off topic everyone who knows Ferg loves his humour too and the wisdom it carries! Graham ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: Kingsley Hurst Sent: Sunday, 6 March, 2011 10:36:04 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Retirement - off topic Thank you so much for your words of wisdom Ferg . . . . I feel much better now! Gee, I can relate to most of it already while still in pre retirement mode. You are indeed a character mate and I love your sense of humour. Cheers Kingsley do not archive. ----- Original Message ----- From: Fergus Kyle Sent: Saturday, March 05, 2011 1:36 AM Subject: Europa-List: Retirement - off topic Kingsley, I see you are anxious regarding impending retirement and I write to console you. I realise that this is not =98company business=99 and will not repeat. I have been retired for 22 years. My wife has not. The first item is the weekly calendar which consists of: Saturday, Church, Garbage, Saturday, Saturday, Saturday and Saturday. The last day of the week is: Yesterday. Everything must be done today =93 see Yesterday. Routines assume immense proportions since there would be no room for Previous Work.. Hourly wage values approach zero since such that you will spend 4 hours saving a dollar/euro/pound =93 a bargain. Everything based on Forever takes on new meaning. A 20-year investment has no meaning. =93 in fact, an annual subscription calls for Board Approval. To save a marriage, attempt to find a third person for the Board. Happy Sailing, Ferg Do not archive http://www.matronics.com/con=============== _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:15:44 PM PST US From: "JR Gowing" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Antenna tuning Graham I hope the ferrites are not obsolete! I build mine in about 7 years ago and haven=99t used the antenna yet! Maybe they just have something smaller or easier to use? JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 in Oz Do not archive From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRAHAM SINGLETON Sent: Monday, 7 March 2011 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Antenna tuning Ferg Kyle might know? Graham _____ From: graeme bird Sent: Sunday, 6 March, 2011 22:01:09 Subject: Europa-List: Re: Antenna tuning Interesting and relevant stuff to me - but, the ferrite's in the manual from Phillips are now obsolete, does anyone know what can be used instead. Are they critical for matching the dipole to the 50ohm cable transceiver as a balun or is it just ballast/supression at the cable end? Thanks Graeme -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332935#332935 Navigator?Europa-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigatorsp; - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - = --> Europa-List Email Forum - Features Navigator to browse such as List Un/Subscription, Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, more: http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:12 PM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Help a brother out? Info request Steve, Love to forward to the company and get some action. I'm sure the UK folks will come to the rescue. How's your project going? By the way, I teach my new guys your torque techniques. (Tight, Tight Tight, No Sh-t Tight.) Regards, Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: Steve Dunsmuir To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Friday, March 04, 2011 9:10 PM Subject: Europa-List: Help a brother out? Info request Hi Folks, Got the following posting on EuropaOwners. If anyone can help Richard out please swing by and post a reply. If you don't want to post you can email him, follow the bellow link and click his email button. I didn't want to repost his email address without permission. Thanks, Steved ***************************** I am in the process of finishing my PPL and am interested in buying a Europa tri-gear to build at home. So far I have emailed Europa four times and phoned once in a effort to get some info on were I can see a Europa in the Flesh, so far Europa has not made contact with me. I lived in Eastbourne, East Sussex. UK Can anyone help me or know of any shows that a Europa Plane may be so I can get a closer look? Also the lack of contact from Europa is a bit worrying, is anying having a problem getting help from Europa with problems once you have purchased a Plane from them. Richard ****************************** Link to Post: http://www.europaowners.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=7133 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:40:51 PM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: cowl cutting - bak edge If you didn't need washers, you installed the mount perfectly. As for the cut of the rear, you bet it is not uncommon to cut the right side more than the other. For offset, I just do the angle of 1 1/16 inch at 20 inches to make the angle and it is remarkably close. The cowl actually has a bit of P factor lean on the forward flange. Before you cut, be sure to have the exhaust fitted and your propeller flange mounted as you may find it necessary to push the cowl forward a bit for more clearance and or to get that look just right. Also the exhaust often needs a bit of adjustment left or right/fore or aft to get the clearance just right. As for the cowl: As you cut, the cowl drops down into the rebate and changes everything during the fitting. To get it just right, I put two inch tape on the fuselage rebate line. Now I have a line that is exactly 2 inches longer than the cowl line. If I push the cowl to the spinner, I then scribe my cowl using the end of the tape by using a compass and pen. OK, I know the cowl is now 1/8 too long as is up against the spinner backplate. A spinner back plate to cowl clearance of 1/8 inch looks very nice. So all you have to do is cut another 1/8 inch off. Occasionally, there is a difference from the top to the bottom with the sides fine. Filler works. Then put a 2 oz. cloth over the filler so it won't crack and flick off. That is a heck of a surprise in flight. Some use a technique to leave the spinner a bit high at first as the engine settles believe it or not. I use 1/16 inch on initial fit if it has been a while, then re-level the engine again before final drill of the cowl. When the cowl is fitted on the floor for smooth sides, it will occasionally pucker on one or both sides between your clecos when installed on the plane (I start with 3/32 inch then go up in increments). Gravity works 24/7 and you will note that the sag in the cowl due to gravity will pull the nose down a bit and this causes puckers in the side. Once the cowl fits inside the rebate, I work the cowl sides to tart from the front and push the most forward pucker in and re-drill the cleco hole and go aft to the next pucker. It cuts down on filler.... Best regards. Bud Yerly ----- Original Message ----- From: graeme bird To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 3:39 PM Subject: Europa-List: cowl cutting - bak edge > before I cut the back edge of the XS cowl for a 912S I'd like to check that its normal to take about 2mm off the port side and 12 mm off the starboard. I realise the engine is 1.5 off to starboard but I dont know if the cowl design caters for this already. My engine didnt need any adjustment washers and I measured the angle at 1.57 deg. Thanks -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=332929#332929 http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.