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1. 12:43 AM - Re: Re: cowl cutting - bak edge (neveyre@aol.co.uk)
2. 01:15 AM - Sun'n'Fun - 29th March to 3rd April (Steven Pitt)
3. 02:22 AM - Re: flap drive pin engagement (kees de bussy)
4. 02:41 AM - Re: Re: cowl cutting - bak edge (david park)
5. 02:43 AM - Re: Re: flap drive pin engagement (david park)
6. 03:39 AM - Re: Re: cowl cutting - bak edge (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
7. 08:08 AM - Cowl cutting - bak edge (Fergus Kyle)
8. 10:43 AM - Re: Re: flap drive pin engagement (david park)
9. 11:51 AM - Re: cowl cutting - bak edge (graeme bird)
10. 03:59 PM - Door Seal (jimpuglise@comcast.net)
11. 08:07 PM - Re: Portable Europa Cleaning (Bud Yerly)
12. 08:13 PM - Re: Re: cowl cutting - bak edge (Bud Yerly)
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| Subject: | Re: cowl cutting - bak edge |
Hi Graham,
Had a thought, where did you get the spinner from ?
The original XS spinner was as I described with about a 1'' flange aft of t
he prop hub face, for some reason Europa have supplied non original spinner
assemblies plucked it seems, at random, from an outside supplier [ I think
Dave Park had one of those which he sent back] sets the entire spinner too
far forward.
Luke 23, 34 Nev.
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From: graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
Sent: Tue, 8 Mar 2011 21:27
Subject: Europa-List: Re: cowl cutting - bak edge
Graham, checking again I am compliant with the 1" back from the front of th
e
lange as it says in the manual, so it must be the spinner that doesnt come
back
nough.
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raeme Bird
-UMPY
ono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP
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| Subject: | Sun'n'Fun - 29th March to 3rd April |
With 3 weeks to go to the Show it would be good to find out who is
attending, both with and without their Europas.
The 'gang' (Steve Pitt, Nigel Graham and Terry Greaves (from the UK) and
Jeff and Mary Behrnes (from Louisiana)) will be supporting Bud on the
stand (N95 and N100) and the usual invite is made to all that meeting
and greeting will take place at the stand every day at 11.00hrs.
Troy and John have already indicated that they will be flying in, and
Jeff and Mary will also have Baby Blue on show. How many more can we
expect?
Look forward to seeing you all again and hope to enjoy several
'engineering meetings' with you.
Regards
Steve Pitt
G-SMDH trigear 912S
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| Subject: | Re: flap drive pin engagement |
Thanks Dave for your input. I will give it another try. It sounds if you did not
needed a lot of force to make it move. Is that correct ? Kees de Bussy PH-SBR
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| Subject: | Re: cowl cutting - bak edge |
Hi Graham=2C Nev=2C
Yes=2C I bought a new Warp Drive from Europa and they sent a spinner as des
cribed by Nev. I had to replace it with an original Europa spinner.
Also bought the Airmaster and that comes with spinner backplate etc. looks
like excellent quality. Test flying on Warp Drive.
Dave P
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: cowl cutting - bak edge
From: neveyre@aol.co.uk
Hi Graham=2C
Had a thought=2C where did you get the spinner from ?
The original XS spinner was as I described with about a 1'' flange aft of t
he prop hub face=2C for some reason Europa have supplied non original spinn
er assemblies plucked it seems=2C at random=2C from an outside supplier [ I
think Dave Park had one of those which he sent back] sets the entire spinn
er too far forward.
Luke 23=2C 34 Nev.
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From: graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
Sent: Tue=2C 8 Mar 2011 21:27
Subject: Europa-List: Re: cowl cutting - bak edge
Graham=2C checking again I am compliant with the 1" back from the front of
the
flange as it says in the manual=2C so it must be the spinner that doesnt co
me back
enough.
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP
Build nearing completion
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| Subject: | Re: flap drive pin engagement |
Just needed heat gun and gripped the edge of the housing with mole wrench a
nd turned=2C once loose can be levered and turned out easily.
Dave
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: flap drive pin engagement
> From: keesdebussy@hotmail.com
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| Subject: | Re: cowl cutting - bak edge |
Dave=0Asensible plan!=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________________________
__=0AFrom: david park <dpark748@hotmail.co.uk>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.
com=0ASent: Wednesday, 9 March, 2011 10:37:00=0ASubject: RE: Europa-List: R
e: cowl cutting - bak edge=0A=0A Hi Graham, Nev,=0AYes, I bought a new Warp
Drive from Europa and they sent a spinner as described =0Aby Nev. I had t
o replace it with an original Europa spinner.=0AAlso bought the Airmaster a
nd that comes with spinner backplate etc. looks like =0Aexcellent quality.
Test flying on Warp Drive.=0ADave P=0A =0A =0A_____________________________
___=0A To: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Re: cowl c
utting - bak edge=0AFrom: neveyre@aol.co.uk=0ADate: Wed, 9 Mar 2011 03:27:4
4 -0500=0A=0AHi Graham,=0AHad a thought, where did you get the spinner from
?=0AThe original XS spinner was as I described with about a 1'' flange aft
of the =0Aprop hub face, for some reason Europa have supplied non original
spinner =0Aassemblies plucked it seems, at random, from an outside supplie
r [ I think Dave =0APark had one of those which he sent back] sets the enti
re spinner too far =0Aforward.=0ALuke 23, 34 Nev.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A-----Or
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| Subject: | Cowl cutting - bak edge |
Lord, Graeme,
.....we are truly fortunate that Nev is watching and always has the
answer! Altough one needs to quote Graham, Bud and several others from time
to time.
Ferg
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| Subject: | Re: flap drive pin engagement |
correct=2C
Dave
> Subject: Europa-List: Re: flap drive pin engagement
> From: keesdebussy@hotmail.com
> Date: Wed=2C 9 Mar 2011 02:18:47 -0800
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
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| Subject: | Re: cowl cutting - bak edge |
ah, well I brought the prop and spinner secondhand from a certain europa flyer
in Corinth Texas, who had it on a 914 while waiting for his airmaster to be repaired
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP
Build nearing completion
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I am finally getting close to the end.=C2- Today I took out the rubber do
or seal and started to look at putting it on.=C2- There is a diagram in t
he manual that shows how it fits, and it makes sense.=C2- The rubber has
a small channel that should fit the=C2-edge of the rebate.=C2- Where th
ere is only a single ply, this works fine.=C2- Where the door frame is tw
o plies thick, the rubber=C2- is not flexible enough to get on.=C2- In
this case, it would seem that=C2-the edge should be cut down to a thickne
ss that the rubber will go over.=C2- A Perma-Grit or die grinder would do
it.=C2- Do I understand this=C2-correctly?=C2- Also, they do not men
tion how to fasten the rubber in; it would seem to me that a little=C2-FL
OX would be appropriate.=C2- Is this correct?
END IN SIGHT!
Jim Puglise - A283
Punta Gorda, FL=C2-=C2- =C2-
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| Subject: | Re: Portable Europa Cleaning |
Troy, and others flying in.
Most bring their own microfiber rags. They work great. I will bring a
bucket or two to the Europa Tent and some micro fiber cloths and a
chamois for the display planes and of course you can use mine. The dew
in the morning is heavy enough that most of the time the dew is enough
to clean the plane. Don't leave your canopy open and if you have a
cover for the canopy it helps. I also will bring some Car Bright (or as
my painter calls it Blue Soap) which is a great cleaner and shine agent
plus degreaser that is safe for all finishes except water based.
Bud Yerly
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From: Troy Maynor<mailto:wingnut54@charter.net>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Monday, March 07, 2011 8:57 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Portable Europa Cleaning
Hi All,
I'm getting ready for Sun N Fun. One of the things I wondered about is
what do folks take along to get the black Florida dust off the plane so
it can look its best. One needs to avoid scratching the windscreen and
the paint. Is it just a matter of getting water to it in a jug or is
there a preferred commercial cleaner that can be sprayed? ACS has so
many options it is mind boggling. Any wisdom from those who've done it?
I know this won't be my only question about the trip.
Troy
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| Subject: | Re: cowl cutting - bak edge |
It is not uncommon to have 1/4 inch. My Classic with the XS FWF had the
same problem and I added three layers of glass on the inside and flox to
fill level and one layer on the outside peel plied and let cure. Fill
and sand. I use poster board with release tape on it to make a form on
the outside, after laying the glass and use small clamps to hold the
paper exactly where I want it. Sand and block to make the line
straight. Remember, the two lines looked at most are around the canopy
and the cowl.
Bud
----- Original Message -----
From: graeme bird<mailto:graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 1:55 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: cowl cutting - bak edge
<graeme@gdbmk.co.uk<mailto:graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>>
thanks Bud, I think I get the drift of most of it, one thing worries
me now though is that you mention a spinner to cowl gap of 1/8th I just
don't have enough cowl to do that, I am going to end up with around
1/2". The top is resting on the shaft of the 912S prop plate butted up
to the back of the prop bolts and I only have 1/8th of the cowl on the
port side to cut off. Is a 3/8th gap going to matter?
Regards Graeme
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Graeme Bird
G-UMPY
Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP
Build nearing completion
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