---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 03/14/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:05 AM - Re: left wing airleron quick dosconnect - disaster? (Thomas Scherer) 2. 12:31 AM - Re: left wing airleron quick dosconnect - disaster? (flyingphil2) 3. 01:27 AM - Ageing (p-a.austin) 4. 01:37 AM - Re: left wing airleron quick dosconnect - disaster? (Tony Renshaw) 5. 02:59 AM - Re: left wing airleron quick dosconnect - disaster? (JR Gowing) 6. 04:42 AM - Re: left wing airleron quick dosconnect - disaster? (William Daniell) 7. 09:04 AM - Re: Sun'n'Fun - 29th March to 3rd April (goff) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:05:59 AM PST US From: "Thomas Scherer" Subject: Re: Europa-List: left wing airleron quick dosconnect - disaster? Will, I second Freds request for a photo. But if it is what I am afraid it is - then this is some serious structural damage and you need to involve the company to judge whether repair or raplacement is in order. ----- Original Message ----- From: William Daniell To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 12:12 AM Subject: Europa-List: left wing airleron quick dosconnect - disaster? For the collective wisdom In an effort to align the left wing aileron quick connect (reposition page 27/16 in the manual) I inadvertently ground out about 1/4 '' from the upper glass of the spar - that is to say the spar has a ply core with glass upper and lower parts. I ground away the upper glass part. Is this a disaster? Will ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:31:58 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: left wing airleron quick dosconnect - disaster? From: "flyingphil2" Hi Will, I'd have this conversation with Andy Draper at the LAA if I were you. As I understand it, the fibre glass is just there as a protective layer for the wood spar. I don't believe it takes any load. If so, I'd think that the problem in the photo could be fixed (with an official LAA repair). But... I'm not an inspector. Talk to Andy. Did you cut into the surface of the wood? Regards, Philp Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333827#333827 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 01:27:36 AM PST US From: "p-a.austin" Subject: Europa-List: Ageing > Hi! Phil. > I believe it is short term ageing nothing more serious perhaps a bit like > honey . Heating it up gives it a new life. > Regards > Bob Harrison.G-PTAG Personally, I wish that would work for me!!!!! Peter ZK-ZEB ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:24 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: left wing airleron quick dosconnect - disaster? From: Tony Renshaw Hello Will, Your wing is like an I beam, a steel girder. The premise is not dissimilar to the way sandwich composite construction works, by having a core material separating two composite sections that oppose each other, one in compression and the other in tension. The factory will be the ones to help you. Good luck sorting it. Reg Tony R. On 14/03/2011, at 10:12 AM, William Daniell wrote: > For the collective wisdom > > > > In an effort to align the left wing aileron quick connect (reposition page > 27/16 in the manual) I inadvertently ground out about 1/4 '' from the upper > glass of the spar - that is to say the spar has a ply core with glass upper > and lower parts. I ground away the upper glass part. > > > > Is this a disaster? > > > > Will > > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:59:38 AM PST US From: "JR Gowing" Subject: RE: Europa-List: left wing airleron quick dosconnect - disaster? William Tony R has explained the build of the spar well; but (from the photo I saw) your hole is away from the edge where the most stress hits. So the amount of strength lost may be a lot less than you first imagine. Before you do any more I would take your photo again with a ruler set up showing the edge at zero on the rule. This will enable the distance of the edge of the spar to the hole to be read off from the rule. Then pose the question to the factory........ JR (Bob) Gowing Kit 327 in Oz From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw Sent: Monday, 14 March 2011 7:33 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: left wing airleron quick dosconnect - disaster? Hello Will, Your wing is like an I beam, a steel girder. The premise is not dissimilar to the way sandwich composite construction works, by having a core material separating two composite sections that oppose each other, one in compression and the other in tension. The factory will be the ones to help you. Good luck sorting it. Reg Tony R. On 14/03/2011, at 10:12 AM, William Daniell wrote: > For the collective wisdom > > > In an effort to align the left wing aileron quick connect (reposition page > 27/16 in the manual) I inadvertently ground out about 1/4 '' from the upper > glass of the spar - that is to say the spar has a ply core with glass upper > and lower parts. I ground away the upper glass part. > > > Is this a disaster? > > > Will > > _____ No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:42:17 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: left wing airleron quick dosconnect - disaster? 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29th March to 3rd April From: "goff" Steve, Not coming this year, doing Oshkosh instead. Goff Goff Moore G-CHOX Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=333862#333862 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.