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1. 10:48 AM - mono sans outriggers (Fergus Kyle)
2. 12:21 PM - Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (rampil)
3. 12:43 PM - Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (rampil)
4. 01:32 PM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (Greg Fuchs)
5. 01:44 PM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (Greg Fuchs)
6. 02:07 PM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (Ray Fitton)
7. 02:58 PM - Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (rampil)
8. 03:27 PM - Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (PITT STEVEN)
9. 04:10 PM - Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (Fred Klein)
10. 06:39 PM - Fw: Sun 'n Fun Tornadic activiey Damage (Bud Yerly)
11. 06:45 PM - Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (Bud Yerly)
12. 06:47 PM - (Bud Yerly)
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| Subject: | mono sans outriggers |
Interesting indeed - zero-length outriggers!
As you say, no crosswind , and little rudder 'throw' on tailwheel liftoff
BUT I note a fair-sized rudder and suppose it is effective at a lower
airspeed than the Europa.
Ferg
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| Subject: | Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today |
Hi All,
Any word on the safety of our friends in Lakeland?
I saw a photo of the Zenith display area: totally smashed, and it is
usually right across from the traditional Europa Display.
The Zenith Area area is where Bob and Russell of FlightCrafters
usually are sited.
The tornado apparently started in Clearwater and ran at least 60 mi
due east
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| Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today |
Hi All,
I just heard from Bud.
He will post a note on the event when he gets back home.
Just briefly, there was a lot of destruction, many a/c flipped, lots
of split avgas. The Europa area is OK. Zenith was hammered, but
Bob and Russell are OK. The Europa UK contingent is by report OK.
Four Europas received what seemed to be superficial or minor damage,
subject to more complete inspection.
Most vendors said they are staying the rest of the week.
I am headed there tomorrow morning. It seems my EAA civic duty
to spend money there this year.
Best Regards,
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Ira N224XS
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| Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today |
That's unfortunate to have that type of weather go through during such a big
airshow.
Here is a link to some info, but its early, and will probably be awhile
before we know the totality of the problems.
http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2011/03/31/suspected-tornado-collapses-airpor
t-hangar-trapping-70/
http://video.foxnews.com/v/4618468/violent-storms-batter-florida
According to Sun and Fun news (current report below), it may not be over.
The weather could be bad tomorrow as well.....be careful!! :
Sun 'n Fun > NewsWEATHER ALERT!
March 30, 2011
SUN 'n FUN Fly-In
Wednesday, March 30, 2001
4 p.m.
Lakeland and Polk County are currently under a Tornado Watch until 8 p.m.
tonight. A Tornado Watch is issued to alert people to the possibility of a
tornado developing in our area. At this point, a tornado has not been seen
but the conditions are favorable for a tornado to occur.
In addition, there is the potential for severe weather tomorrow - Thursday,
March 31 - from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. with the likelihood of high winds and the
possibility of hail between 2 p.m. and 8 p.m.
Please secure your aircraft, exhibit, tent and/or campsite and encourage
others to do so immediately.
The air show is on hold at this point until 5:15 p.m. Warbirds and the jump
plane were launched earlier this afternoon but recalled due to winds gusting
up to 30 m.p.h.
Remember to keep safety as your top priority. Thank you for sharing this
information with others.
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rampil
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:38 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today
Hi All,
I just heard from Bud.
He will post a note on the event when he gets back home.
Just briefly, there was a lot of destruction, many a/c flipped, lots of
split avgas. The Europa area is OK. Zenith was hammered, but Bob and Russell
are OK. The Europa UK contingent is by report OK.
Four Europas received what seemed to be superficial or minor damage, subject
to more complete inspection.
Most vendors said they are staying the rest of the week.
I am headed there tomorrow morning. It seems my EAA civic duty to spend
money there this year.
Best Regards,
--------
Ira N224XS
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| Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today |
Well, I guess that info is one day old..
Do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today |
Devastating
http://nycaviation.com/2011/03/tornado-hits-sun-n-fun-airshow-in-florida-flipping-planes-and-damaging-hangar/
----- Original Message -----
From: "rampil" <ira.rampil@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:37 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today
>
> Hi All,
>
> I just heard from Bud.
>
> He will post a note on the event when he gets back home.
>
> Just briefly, there was a lot of destruction, many a/c flipped, lots
> of split avgas. The Europa area is OK. Zenith was hammered, but
> Bob and Russell are OK. The Europa UK contingent is by report OK.
> Four Europas received what seemed to be superficial or minor damage,
> subject to more complete inspection.
>
> Most vendors said they are staying the rest of the week.
>
> I am headed there tomorrow morning. It seems my EAA civic duty
> to spend money there this year.
>
> Best Regards,
>
> --------
> Ira N224XS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335640#335640
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today |
A couple of pix from the SnF facebook site:
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| Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today |
We tried to get to the airport today but we were turned away by downed power
lines. We have seen the damage reports, some of which are true and we will
be attempting to be at Sun'n'Fun if the authorities allow.
Regards
Steve Pitt, Nigel Graham, Diane and Terry Greaves, Jeff and Mary Behrnes
On 31 March 2011 20:15, rampil <ira.rampil@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Any word on the safety of our friends in Lakeland?
>
> I saw a photo of the Zenith display area: totally smashed, and it is
> usually right across from the traditional Europa Display.
>
> The Zenith Area area is where Bob and Russell of FlightCrafters
> usually are sited.
>
> The tornado apparently started in Clearwater and ran at least 60 mi
> due east
>
> --------
> Ira N224XS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335637#335637
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today |
Does anyone know whose Europas were on the field at the time?
Was there enough warning to get the ships tied down?
...the pixs I've seen (of the general scene) are devastating...
Fred
> We tried to get to the airport today but we were turned away by
> downed power lines. We have seen the damage reports, some of which
> are true and we will be attempting to be at Sun'n'Fun if the
> authorities allow.
> Regards
> Steve Pitt, Nigel Graham, Diane and Terry Greaves, Jeff and Mary
> Behrnes
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| Subject: | Fw: Sun 'n Fun Tornadic activiey Damage |
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From: Bud Yerly<mailto:budyerly@msn.com>
McLean<mailto:mike.mclean@swiftaircraft.co.uk> ; Karen
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Hello all,
We had quite a scare at Sun 'n Fun today. A small tornado moved over
the Sun 'n fun campus this morning. Luckily Ed Pellenz (one of the
techs at Custom Flight) was at Plant City Airport, and he texted me that
a tornado hit there and was coming toward us. I could see the rain
wrapped cloud approaching and I evacuated the Europa Tent, warned other
venders and we all ran into the main hangars. Moments later, winds,
hail and rain hit. I watched with concern as a strong straight line
wind I estimate as 75 plus mph hit the vender area. Just as it seemed
to subside, the tornadic winds hit. Our buildings roof was damaged and
leaking, and significant small hail began and then extremely strong
winds and rain hit outside the hangar I can only guess at the speed.
I watched helplessly as the Phillips Petroleum tent smashed into my site
area. The air was filled with tents, parts and debris typical of a
twister.
A few folks took shelter in tents, which collapsed and minor injuries
were reported. Soon the storm subsided and we surveyed the area for
venders and anyone who was caught out in that mess. The area was full
of gasoline fumes from the overturned and shredded aircraft and
assistance was rendered where necessary. All the participants were
fortunate enough that the only injuries sustained were from falling
ceiling pieces or tent frame collapses.
I will try to send photo's from my phone below. They are poor as it
was, and still is, raining and stormy.
Many aircraft have been lost or damaged and many of the outdoor displays
were damaged.
Thankfully Jeff Beheren's was closely monitoring the radar and had
helped make the decision earlier this morning that all the owners with
him and Steve Pitt would stay put until the storms passed. We are all
well, and we should be able to get back into the site on Friday and
begin cleanup.
Please don't email or call as we are all fine, Baby Blue seems to have
rode out the storm with only superficial paint damage. N12AY has only
rudder damage, and 419PL has vertical fin, and stab damage. So far so
good. Full inspections must be made though.
Tornados are very finicky They left Baby Blue intact with 4 aircraft
within 100 feet all destroyed or damaged. My aircraft spun around and
suffered only rudder damage, and the vintage Waco's across from me are
fine, but on either side of them and us, is devastation. 200 feet away,
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Stories will follow I'm sure.
Best Regards,
Bud Yerly
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| Subject: | Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today |
Hello all,
We had quite a scare at Sun 'n Fun today. A small tornado moved over
the Sun 'n fun campus this morning. Luckily Ed Pellenz (one of the
techs at Custom Flight) was at Plant City Airport, and he texted me that
a tornado hit there and was coming toward us. I could see the rain
wrapped cloud approaching and I evacuated the Europa Tent, warned other
venders and we all ran into the main hangars. Moments later, winds,
hail and rain hit. I watched with concern as a strong straight line
wind I estimate as 75 plus mph hit the vender area. Just as it seemed
to subside, the tornadic winds hit. Our buildings roof was damaged and
leaking, and significant small hail began and then extremely strong
winds and rain hit outside the hangar I can only guess at the speed.
I watched helplessly as the Phillips Petroleum tent smashed into my site
area. The air was filled with tents, parts and debris typical of a
twister.
A few folks took shelter in tents, which collapsed and minor injuries
were reported. Soon the storm subsided and we surveyed the area for
venders and anyone who was caught out in that mess. The area was full
of gasoline fumes from the overturned and shredded aircraft and
assistance was rendered where necessary. All the participants were
fortunate enough that the only injuries sustained were from falling
ceiling pieces or tent frame collapses.
I will try to send photo's from my phone below. They are poor as it
was, and still is, raining and stormy.
Many aircraft have been lost or damaged and many of the outdoor displays
were damaged.
Thankfully Jeff Beheren's was closely monitoring the radar and had
helped make the decision earlier this morning that all the owners with
him and Steve Pitt would stay put until the storms passed. We are all
well, and we should be able to get back into the site on Friday and
begin cleanup.
Please don't email or call as we are all fine, Baby Blue seems to have
rode out the storm with only superficial paint damage. N12AY has only
rudder damage, and 419PL has vertical fin, and stab damage. So far so
good. Full inspections must be made though.
Tornados are very finicky They left Baby Blue intact with 4 aircraft
within 100 feet all destroyed or damaged. My aircraft spun around and
suffered only rudder damage, and the vintage Waco's across from me are
fine, but on either side of them and us, is devastation. 200 feet away,
Zenith lost 5 aircraft or have had them severely damaged when flipped
over.
It looks like there will be much work for the insurance companies.
Sorry this didn't go out sooner, it appears the photos may be the
problem.
Regards,
Bud
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From: PITT STEVEN<mailto:steven.pitt2@ntlworld.com>
To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:15 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today
We tried to get to the airport today but we were turned away by downed
power lines. We have seen the damage reports, some of which are true and
we will be attempting to be at Sun'n'Fun if the authorities allow.
Regards
Steve Pitt, Nigel Graham, Diane and Terry Greaves, Jeff and Mary
Behrnes
On 31 March 2011 20:15, rampil
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<ira.rampil@gmail.com<mailto:ira.rampil@gmail.com>>
Hi All,
Any word on the safety of our friends in Lakeland?
I saw a photo of the Zenith display area: totally smashed, and it is
usually right across from the traditional Europa Display.
The Zenith Area area is where Bob and Russell of FlightCrafters
usually are sited.
The tornado apparently started in Clearwater and ran at least 60 mi
due east
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Hello all,
We had quite a scare at Sun 'n Fun today. A small tornado moved over
the Sun 'n fun campus this morning. Luckily Ed Pellenz (one of the
techs at Custom Flight) was at Plant City Airport, and he texted me that
a tornado hit there and was coming toward us. I could see the rain
wrapped cloud approaching and I evacuated the Europa Tent, warned other
venders and we all ran into the main hangars. Moments later, winds,
hail and rain hit. I watched with concern as a strong straight line
wind I estimate as 75 plus mph hit the vender area. Just as it seemed
to subside, the tornadic winds hit. Our buildings roof was damaged and
leaking, and significant small hail began and then extremely strong
winds and rain hit outside the hangar I can only guess at the speed.
I watched helplessly as the Phillips Petroleum tent smashed into my site
area. The air was filled with tents, parts and debris typical of a
twister.
A few folks took shelter in tents, which collapsed and minor injuries
were reported. Soon the storm subsided and we surveyed the area for
venders and anyone who was caught out in that mess. The area was full
of gasoline fumes from the overturned and shredded aircraft and
assistance was rendered where necessary. All the participants were
fortunate enough that the only injuries sustained were from falling
ceiling pieces or tent frame collapses.
I will try to send photo's from my phone below. They are poor as it
was, and still is, raining and stormy.
Many aircraft have been lost or damaged and many of the outdoor displays
were damaged.
Thankfully Jeff Beheren's was closely monitoring the radar and had
helped make the decision earlier this morning that all the owners with
him and Steve Pitt would stay put until the storms passed. We are all
well, and we should be able to get back into the site on Friday and
begin cleanup.
Please don't email or call as we are all fine, Baby Blue seems to have
rode out the storm with only superficial paint damage. N12AY has only
rudder damage, and 419PL has vertical fin, and stab damage. So far so
good. Full inspections must be made though.
Tornados are very finicky They left Baby Blue intact with 4 aircraft
within 100 feet all destroyed or damaged. My aircraft spun around and
suffered only rudder damage, and the vintage Waco's across from me are
fine, but on either side of them and us, is devastation. 200 feet away,
Zenith lost 5 aircraft or have had them severely damaged when flipped
over.
The photos seemed to have held up the email so this is text only. I
will set up photo's when I can.
It is kinda ugly.
Regards,
Bud
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