---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 03/31/11: 12 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 10:48 AM - mono sans outriggers (Fergus Kyle) 2. 12:21 PM - Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (rampil) 3. 12:43 PM - Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (rampil) 4. 01:32 PM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (Greg Fuchs) 5. 01:44 PM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (Greg Fuchs) 6. 02:07 PM - Re: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (Ray Fitton) 7. 02:58 PM - Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (rampil) 8. 03:27 PM - Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (PITT STEVEN) 9. 04:10 PM - Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (Fred Klein) 10. 06:39 PM - Fw: Sun 'n Fun Tornadic activiey Damage (Bud Yerly) 11. 06:45 PM - Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today (Bud Yerly) 12. 06:47 PM - (Bud Yerly) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 10:48:39 AM PST US From: Fergus Kyle Subject: Europa-List: mono sans outriggers Interesting indeed - zero-length outriggers! As you say, no crosswind , and little rudder 'throw' on tailwheel liftoff BUT I note a fair-sized rudder and suppose it is effective at a lower airspeed than the Europa. Ferg ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:21:38 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today From: "rampil" Hi All, Any word on the safety of our friends in Lakeland? I saw a photo of the Zenith display area: totally smashed, and it is usually right across from the traditional Europa Display. The Zenith Area area is where Bob and Russell of FlightCrafters usually are sited. The tornado apparently started in Clearwater and ran at least 60 mi due east -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335637#335637 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:43:14 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today From: "rampil" Hi All, I just heard from Bud. He will post a note on the event when he gets back home. Just briefly, there was a lot of destruction, many a/c flipped, lots of split avgas. The Europa area is OK. Zenith was hammered, but Bob and Russell are OK. The Europa UK contingent is by report OK. Four Europas received what seemed to be superficial or minor damage, subject to more complete inspection. Most vendors said they are staying the rest of the week. I am headed there tomorrow morning. It seems my EAA civic duty to spend money there this year. Best Regards, -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335640#335640 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 01:32:47 PM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today That's unfortunate to have that type of weather go through during such a big airshow. Here is a link to some info, but its early, and will probably be awhile before we know the totality of the problems. http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2011/03/31/suspected-tornado-collapses-airpor t-hangar-trapping-70/ http://video.foxnews.com/v/4618468/violent-storms-batter-florida According to Sun and Fun news (current report below), it may not be over. The weather could be bad tomorrow as well.....be careful!! : Sun 'n Fun > NewsWEATHER ALERT! March 30, 2011 SUN 'n FUN Fly-In Wednesday, March 30, 2001 4 p.m. Lakeland and Polk County are currently under a Tornado Watch until 8 p.m. tonight. A Tornado Watch is issued to alert people to the possibility of a tornado developing in our area. At this point, a tornado has not been seen but the conditions are favorable for a tornado to occur. In addition, there is the potential for severe weather tomorrow - Thursday, March 31 - from 8 a.m. to 8 p.m. with the likelihood of high winds and the possibility of hail between 2 p.m. and 8 p.m. Please secure your aircraft, exhibit, tent and/or campsite and encourage others to do so immediately. The air show is on hold at this point until 5:15 p.m. Warbirds and the jump plane were launched earlier this afternoon but recalled due to winds gusting up to 30 m.p.h. Remember to keep safety as your top priority. Thank you for sharing this information with others. -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of rampil Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:38 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today Hi All, I just heard from Bud. He will post a note on the event when he gets back home. Just briefly, there was a lot of destruction, many a/c flipped, lots of split avgas. The Europa area is OK. Zenith was hammered, but Bob and Russell are OK. The Europa UK contingent is by report OK. Four Europas received what seemed to be superficial or minor damage, subject to more complete inspection. Most vendors said they are staying the rest of the week. I am headed there tomorrow morning. It seems my EAA civic duty to spend money there this year. Best Regards, -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335640#335640 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 01:44:42 PM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today Well, I guess that info is one day old.. Do not archive ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:07:02 PM PST US From: "Ray Fitton" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today Devastating http://nycaviation.com/2011/03/tornado-hits-sun-n-fun-airshow-in-florida-flipping-planes-and-damaging-hangar/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "rampil" Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 8:37 PM Subject: Europa-List: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today > > Hi All, > > I just heard from Bud. > > He will post a note on the event when he gets back home. > > Just briefly, there was a lot of destruction, many a/c flipped, lots > of split avgas. The Europa area is OK. Zenith was hammered, but > Bob and Russell are OK. The Europa UK contingent is by report OK. > Four Europas received what seemed to be superficial or minor damage, > subject to more complete inspection. > > Most vendors said they are staying the rest of the week. > > I am headed there tomorrow morning. It seems my EAA civic duty > to spend money there this year. > > Best Regards, > > -------- > Ira N224XS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335640#335640 > > > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:58:51 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today From: "rampil" A couple of pix from the SnF facebook site: -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335679#335679 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/206351_10100863299657381_2053905_77199032_7405667_n_193.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/199109_1951470791079_1371922927_32242894_7621577_n_138.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/207420_10100863359322811_2053905_77199835_4098014_n_287.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:27:50 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today From: PITT STEVEN We tried to get to the airport today but we were turned away by downed power lines. We have seen the damage reports, some of which are true and we will be attempting to be at Sun'n'Fun if the authorities allow. Regards Steve Pitt, Nigel Graham, Diane and Terry Greaves, Jeff and Mary Behrnes On 31 March 2011 20:15, rampil wrote: > > Hi All, > > Any word on the safety of our friends in Lakeland? > > I saw a photo of the Zenith display area: totally smashed, and it is > usually right across from the traditional Europa Display. > > The Zenith Area area is where Bob and Russell of FlightCrafters > usually are sited. > > The tornado apparently started in Clearwater and ran at least 60 mi > due east > > -------- > Ira N224XS > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335637#335637 > > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 04:10:05 PM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today Does anyone know whose Europas were on the field at the time? Was there enough warning to get the ships tied down? ...the pixs I've seen (of the general scene) are devastating... Fred > We tried to get to the airport today but we were turned away by > downed power lines. We have seen the damage reports, some of which > are true and we will be attempting to be at Sun'n'Fun if the > authorities allow. > Regards > Steve Pitt, Nigel Graham, Diane and Terry Greaves, Jeff and Mary > Behrnes ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:39:09 PM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Europa-List: Fw: Sun 'n Fun Tornadic activiey Damage ----- Original Message ----- From: Bud Yerly McLean ; Karen Ward ; Jon Pool ; Ian Robertson ; david.stanbridge ; Rebecca Haines Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:31 PM Subject: Sun 'n Fun Tornadic activiey Damage Photo E-mail Play slideshow | Download images Hello all, We had quite a scare at Sun 'n Fun today. A small tornado moved over the Sun 'n fun campus this morning. Luckily Ed Pellenz (one of the techs at Custom Flight) was at Plant City Airport, and he texted me that a tornado hit there and was coming toward us. I could see the rain wrapped cloud approaching and I evacuated the Europa Tent, warned other venders and we all ran into the main hangars. Moments later, winds, hail and rain hit. I watched with concern as a strong straight line wind I estimate as 75 plus mph hit the vender area. Just as it seemed to subside, the tornadic winds hit. Our buildings roof was damaged and leaking, and significant small hail began and then extremely strong winds and rain hit outside the hangar I can only guess at the speed. I watched helplessly as the Phillips Petroleum tent smashed into my site area. The air was filled with tents, parts and debris typical of a twister. A few folks took shelter in tents, which collapsed and minor injuries were reported. Soon the storm subsided and we surveyed the area for venders and anyone who was caught out in that mess. The area was full of gasoline fumes from the overturned and shredded aircraft and assistance was rendered where necessary. All the participants were fortunate enough that the only injuries sustained were from falling ceiling pieces or tent frame collapses. I will try to send photo's from my phone below. They are poor as it was, and still is, raining and stormy. Many aircraft have been lost or damaged and many of the outdoor displays were damaged. Thankfully Jeff Beheren's was closely monitoring the radar and had helped make the decision earlier this morning that all the owners with him and Steve Pitt would stay put until the storms passed. We are all well, and we should be able to get back into the site on Friday and begin cleanup. Please don't email or call as we are all fine, Baby Blue seems to have rode out the storm with only superficial paint damage. N12AY has only rudder damage, and 419PL has vertical fin, and stab damage. So far so good. Full inspections must be made though. Tornados are very finicky They left Baby Blue intact with 4 aircraft within 100 feet all destroyed or damaged. My aircraft spun around and suffered only rudder damage, and the vintage Waco's across from me are fine, but on either side of them and us, is devastation. 200 feet away, Zenith lost 5 aircraft or have had them severely damaged when flipped over view from front of our tent Back of my site The missing wing is under the tent as we had it on a wing walker for display. 12AY spun around and against the tent. Suffice to say, the insurance companies will be busy. Stories will follow I'm sure. Best Regards, Bud Yerly This MSN Photo E-mail slideshow will be available for 30 days. To share high quality pictures with your friends and family using MSN Photo E-mail, join MSN. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 06:45:11 PM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today Hello all, We had quite a scare at Sun 'n Fun today. A small tornado moved over the Sun 'n fun campus this morning. Luckily Ed Pellenz (one of the techs at Custom Flight) was at Plant City Airport, and he texted me that a tornado hit there and was coming toward us. I could see the rain wrapped cloud approaching and I evacuated the Europa Tent, warned other venders and we all ran into the main hangars. Moments later, winds, hail and rain hit. I watched with concern as a strong straight line wind I estimate as 75 plus mph hit the vender area. Just as it seemed to subside, the tornadic winds hit. Our buildings roof was damaged and leaking, and significant small hail began and then extremely strong winds and rain hit outside the hangar I can only guess at the speed. I watched helplessly as the Phillips Petroleum tent smashed into my site area. The air was filled with tents, parts and debris typical of a twister. A few folks took shelter in tents, which collapsed and minor injuries were reported. Soon the storm subsided and we surveyed the area for venders and anyone who was caught out in that mess. The area was full of gasoline fumes from the overturned and shredded aircraft and assistance was rendered where necessary. All the participants were fortunate enough that the only injuries sustained were from falling ceiling pieces or tent frame collapses. I will try to send photo's from my phone below. They are poor as it was, and still is, raining and stormy. Many aircraft have been lost or damaged and many of the outdoor displays were damaged. Thankfully Jeff Beheren's was closely monitoring the radar and had helped make the decision earlier this morning that all the owners with him and Steve Pitt would stay put until the storms passed. We are all well, and we should be able to get back into the site on Friday and begin cleanup. Please don't email or call as we are all fine, Baby Blue seems to have rode out the storm with only superficial paint damage. N12AY has only rudder damage, and 419PL has vertical fin, and stab damage. So far so good. Full inspections must be made though. Tornados are very finicky They left Baby Blue intact with 4 aircraft within 100 feet all destroyed or damaged. My aircraft spun around and suffered only rudder damage, and the vintage Waco's across from me are fine, but on either side of them and us, is devastation. 200 feet away, Zenith lost 5 aircraft or have had them severely damaged when flipped over. It looks like there will be much work for the insurance companies. Sorry this didn't go out sooner, it appears the photos may be the problem. Regards, Bud It ----- Original Message ----- From: PITT STEVEN To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 6:15 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sun and Fun hit by Tornado today We tried to get to the airport today but we were turned away by downed power lines. We have seen the damage reports, some of which are true and we will be attempting to be at Sun'n'Fun if the authorities allow. Regards Steve Pitt, Nigel Graham, Diane and Terry Greaves, Jeff and Mary Behrnes On 31 March 2011 20:15, rampil > wrote: > Hi All, Any word on the safety of our friends in Lakeland? I saw a photo of the Zenith display area: totally smashed, and it is usually right across from the traditional Europa Display. The Zenith Area area is where Bob and Russell of FlightCrafters usually are sited. The tornado apparently started in Clearwater and ran at least 60 mi due east -------- Ira N224XS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=335637#335637 ist Un/Subscription, www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List ronics.com/" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com Matt Dralle, List Admin. ==== http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:47:47 PM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Europa-List: Hello all, We had quite a scare at Sun 'n Fun today. A small tornado moved over the Sun 'n fun campus this morning. Luckily Ed Pellenz (one of the techs at Custom Flight) was at Plant City Airport, and he texted me that a tornado hit there and was coming toward us. I could see the rain wrapped cloud approaching and I evacuated the Europa Tent, warned other venders and we all ran into the main hangars. Moments later, winds, hail and rain hit. I watched with concern as a strong straight line wind I estimate as 75 plus mph hit the vender area. Just as it seemed to subside, the tornadic winds hit. Our buildings roof was damaged and leaking, and significant small hail began and then extremely strong winds and rain hit outside the hangar I can only guess at the speed. I watched helplessly as the Phillips Petroleum tent smashed into my site area. The air was filled with tents, parts and debris typical of a twister. A few folks took shelter in tents, which collapsed and minor injuries were reported. Soon the storm subsided and we surveyed the area for venders and anyone who was caught out in that mess. The area was full of gasoline fumes from the overturned and shredded aircraft and assistance was rendered where necessary. All the participants were fortunate enough that the only injuries sustained were from falling ceiling pieces or tent frame collapses. I will try to send photo's from my phone below. They are poor as it was, and still is, raining and stormy. Many aircraft have been lost or damaged and many of the outdoor displays were damaged. Thankfully Jeff Beheren's was closely monitoring the radar and had helped make the decision earlier this morning that all the owners with him and Steve Pitt would stay put until the storms passed. We are all well, and we should be able to get back into the site on Friday and begin cleanup. Please don't email or call as we are all fine, Baby Blue seems to have rode out the storm with only superficial paint damage. N12AY has only rudder damage, and 419PL has vertical fin, and stab damage. So far so good. Full inspections must be made though. Tornados are very finicky They left Baby Blue intact with 4 aircraft within 100 feet all destroyed or damaged. My aircraft spun around and suffered only rudder damage, and the vintage Waco's across from me are fine, but on either side of them and us, is devastation. 200 feet away, Zenith lost 5 aircraft or have had them severely damaged when flipped over. The photos seemed to have held up the email so this is text only. I will set up photo's when I can. It is kinda ugly. 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