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Thu 04/21/11


Total Messages Posted: 10



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     1. 09:42 AM - Re: Honda? (craig)
     2. 09:59 AM - Re: Honda? (Don Pettey)
     3. 10:45 AM - Re: Honda? (glenn crowder)
     4. 01:37 PM - Re: Honda? (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     5. 02:28 PM - Re: Honda? (craig)
     6. 02:32 PM - Re: Honda? (Fred Klein)
     7. 03:27 PM - Re: Honda? (glenn crowder)
     8. 03:31 PM - Re: Honda? (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     9. 03:45 PM - Re: Honda? (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
    10. 04:37 PM - Re: Honda? (craig)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:42:16 AM PST US
    From: "craig" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
    Subject: Honda?
    Why I asked, was I have a GSXR1300 Hayabusa engine sitting on the floor waiting to go into mine. I have a new crank case being made to remove the gearbox, to run a belt re-drive, I intend to de-rate mine by rev limiting it to about 7000 rpm which is max torque. The guy making the new bits tells me the dressed engine ready to run come in at 140 lbs, that's with 65amp alternator, 4 stage vacuum scavenge pump for the sump, starter, flywheel and wiring loom. If you have any photos I would love to see them Regards craig -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scouttwo Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:50 PM Subject: Europa-List: Honda? - I was just looking at the last line of your post on the forum You have a Honda CBR1000 engine powering your baby?- craig - Sure, why not? The parts will be done in a few months. Major firewall surgery is required to make kr-2 like front end with tall spring gear. It will ride a little low on the new firewall, but i like the profile modelled on the computer - p40 ish Big oil cooler, piston oil jetting, fully functioning modular factory gearbox rocks. Big woodie race prop - shift down/winde out, 2000 fpm climb? 100bhp @ 6k, 120 @ 7k, 140 @ 8k, 150 @ 9k, 160 @ 10k. Burn it up, wear it out and re-install in cycle frame! Nic - Sorry about the politics ya'll ----- No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com


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    Time: 09:59:40 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Honda?
    From: Don Pettey <don-glasstile@cox.net>
    Has anyone given consideration to Eggenfellner's Viking-Honda engine. He has a lengthy track record converting Suberus to aircraft use. He is already shipping engines and says they will be offered in Aircraft Spruce catalog. The weight sounds good and aftermarket turbos for the Honda are <3K. http://www.vikingaircraftengines.com/products/Products.html Don Pettey On Apr 21, 2011, at 4:10 AM, craig wrote: > > Why I asked, was I have a GSXR1300 Hayabusa engine sitting on the floor > waiting to go into mine. I have a new crank case being made to remove the > gearbox, to run a belt re-drive, I intend to de-rate mine by rev limiting it > to about 7000 rpm which is max torque. The guy making the new bits tells me > the dressed engine ready to run come in at 140 lbs, that's with 65amp > alternator, 4 stage vacuum scavenge pump for the sump, starter, flywheel and > wiring loom. > > If you have any photos I would love to see them > > Regards > > craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scouttwo > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:50 PM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Honda? > > > - I was just looking at the last line of your post on the forum > You have a Honda CBR1000 engine powering your baby?- > > craig - > > Sure, why not? > > The parts will be done in a few months. > > Major firewall surgery is required to make kr-2 like front end with tall > spring gear. > > It will ride a little low on the new firewall, but i like the profile > modelled on the computer - p40 ish > > Big oil cooler, piston oil jetting, fully functioning modular factory > gearbox rocks. > > Big woodie race prop - shift down/winde out, 2000 fpm climb? > 100bhp @ 6k, 120 @ 7k, 140 @ 8k, 150 @ 9k, 160 @ 10k. > > Burn it up, wear it out and re-install in cycle frame! > > Nic - > > Sorry about the politics ya'll > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > >


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    Time: 10:45:17 AM PST US
    From: glenn crowder <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Honda?
    Go for it Craig! Don't let any of the doomsayers on this list talk you out of it. This will be awesome. The modern motorcycle engines are bulletproof. I run the Sube EA81 engine in my bird and have been totally happy with it and has been totally reliable at least after I got the cooling system to work! Your'e going to have 10 times the fun with your project than all the other plug and play types. Please post your prog ress often! Glenn > From: craigb@onthenet.com.au > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Honda? > Date: Thu=2C 21 Apr 2011 21:10:40 +1000 > > > Why I asked=2C was I have a GSXR1300 Hayabusa engine sitting on the floor > waiting to go into mine. I have a new crank case being made to remove the > gearbox=2C to run a belt re-drive=2C I intend to de-rate mine by rev limi ting it > to about 7000 rpm which is max torque. The guy making the new bits tells me > the dressed engine ready to run come in at 140 lbs=2C that's with 65amp > alternator=2C 4 stage vacuum scavenge pump for the sump=2C starter=2C fly wheel and > wiring loom. > > If you have any photos I would love to see them > > Regards > > craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scouttwo > Sent: Thursday=2C April 21=2C 2011 1:50 PM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Honda? > > > - I was just looking at the last line of your post on the forum > You have a Honda CBR1000 engine powering your baby?- > > craig - > > Sure=2C why not? > > The parts will be done in a few months. > > Major firewall surgery is required to make kr-2 like front end with tall > spring gear. > > It will ride a little low on the new firewall=2C but i like the profile > modelled on the computer - p40 ish > > Big oil cooler=2C piston oil jetting=2C fully functioning modular factory > gearbox rocks. > > Big woodie race prop - shift down/winde out=2C 2000 fpm climb? > 100bhp @ 6k=2C 120 @ 7k=2C 140 @ 8k=2C 150 @ 9k=2C 160 @ 10k. > > Burn it up=2C wear it out and re-install in cycle frame! > > Nic - > > Sorry about the politics ya'll > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > >


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    Time: 01:37:31 PM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Honda?
    Glenn=0Awhich reduction drive do you have, toothed belt? The NSA conversion was never =0Areliable imho. That used what they called a "linear cam" or s omething which was =0Anothing more than a sprag clutch like the old Contine ntal starters. OK for about =0A500 hours then scrap=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ________________________________=0AFrom: glenn crowder <gcrowder2@hotmail.c om>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, 21 April, 2011 18:37: 40=0ASubject: RE: Europa-List: Honda?=0A=0A Go for it Craig! Don't let any of the doomsayers on this list talk you out of =0Ait. This will be awesom e. The modern =0A=0Amotorcycle engines are bulletproof. I run the Sube EA 81 engine in my bird and =0Ahave been totally happy with it and=0Ahas been totally reliable at least after I got the cooling system to work! =0AYour' e going to have 10 times the fun with=0Ayour project than all the other plu g and play types. Please post your progress =0Aoften!=0A =0A Glenn=0A =0A =0A> From: craigb @onthenet.com.au=0A> To: europa-list@matronics.com=0A> Subject: RE: Europa- List: Honda?=0A> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:10:40 +1000=0A> =0A> --> Europa- List message posted by: "craig" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>=0A> =0A> Why I ask ed, was I have a GSXR1300 Hayabusa engine sitting on the floor=0A> waiting to go into mine. I have a new crank case being made to remove the=0A> gearb ox, to run a belt re-drive, I intend to de-rate mine by rev limiting it=0A> to about 7000 rpm which is max torque. The guy making the new bits tells m e=0A> the dressed engine ready to run come in at 140 lbs, that's with 65amp =0A> alternator, 4 stage vacuum scavenge pump for the sump, starter, flywhe el and=0A> wiring loom.=0A> =0A> If you have any photos I would love to see them=0A> =0A> Regards=0A> =0A> craig=0A> =0A> -----Original Message----- =0A> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com=0A> [mailto:owner-europa- list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scouttwo=0A> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:50 PM=0A> To: europa-list@matronics.com=0A> Subject: Europa-List bcglobal.net>=0A> =0A> - I was just looking at the last line of your post o n the forum=0A> You have a Honda CBR1000 engine powering your baby?-=0A> =0A> craig -=0A> =0A> Sure, why not?=0A> =0A> The parts will be done in a f ew months.=0A> =0A> Major firewall surgery is required to make kr-2 like fr ont end with tall =0A> spring gear.=0A> =0A> It will ride a little low on t he new firewall, but i like the profile =0A> modelled on the computer - p40 ish=0A> =0A> Big oil cooler, piston oil jetting, fully functioning modular factory =0A> gearbox rocks.=0A> =0A> Big woodie race prop - shift down/win de out, 2000 fpm climb?=0A> 100bhp @ 6k, 120 @ 7k, 140 @ 8k, 150 @ 9k, 160 @ 10k.=0A> =0A> Burn it up, wear it out and re-install in cycle frame!=0A> =0A> Nic -=0A> =0A> Sorry about the politics ya'll =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> -----=0A> No virus found in this message.=0A> Checked by AV G - www.avg.com=0A> =0A> =0A> =============== ============ =0A


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    Time: 02:28:30 PM PST US
    From: "craig" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
    Subject: Honda?
    I think glenn may be using the gearbox, I will be using a belt redrive on the hayabusa engine. Depending on prop size The reduction needs to be about 1.8 to 1 to give me the correct speed of engine to prop for max torque. Yes as far as the engine goes, I like several points over the rotax or jab. One is the intake system 4x 52mm intakes as opposed to 2x 32mm for the carbs. Two fuel injectors per cylinder. Titanuim valve train with 4 valves per cylinder. Ceramic coated cylinders. 4 stage vacuum scavenge pump for the oil. I intend to limit the 190hp down to about 100 for the initial testing phase so it wont be too much engine. I=99ll adjust it then up to about 125hp, The same as the jab 6. The dressed weight ready to run is looking like about 140lbs at this stage. Regards craig From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRAHAM SINGLETON Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 6:33 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Honda? Glenn which reduction drive do you have, toothed belt? The NSA conversion was never reliable imho. That used what they called a "linear cam" or something which was nothing more than a sprag clutch like the old Continental starters. OK for about 500 hours then scrap Graham _____ From: glenn crowder <gcrowder2@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday, 21 April, 2011 18:37:40 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Honda? Go for it Craig! Don't let any of the doomsayers on this list talk you out of it. This will be awesome. The modern motorcycle engines are bulletproof. I run the Sube EA81 engine in my bird and have been totally happy with it and has been totally reliable at least after I got the cooling system to work! Your'e going to have 10 times the fun with your project than all the other plug and play types. Please post your progress often! Glenn > From: craigb@onthenet.com.au > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Honda? > Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:10:40 +1000 > > > Why I asked, was I have a GSXR1300 Hayabusa engine sitting on the floor > waiting to go into mine. I have a new crank case being made to remove the > gearbox, to run a belt re-drive, I intend to de-rate mine by rev limiting it > to about 7000 rpm which is max torque. The guy making the new bits tells me > the dressed engine ready to run come in at 140 lbs, that's with 65amp > alternator, 4 stage vacuum scavenge pump for the sump, starter, flywheel and > wiring loom. > > If you have any photos I would love to see them > > Regards > > craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scouttwo > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:50 PM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Honda? > > > - I was just looking at the last line of your post on the forum > You have a Honda CBR1000 engine powering your baby?- > > craig - > > Sure, why not? > > The parts will be done in a few months. > > Major firewall surgery is required to make kr-2 like front end with tall > spring gear. > > It will ride a little low on the new firewall, but i like the profile > modelled on the computer - p40 ish > > Big oil cooler, piston oil jetting, fully functioning modular factory > gearbox rocks. > > Big woodie race prop - shift down/winde out, 2000 fpm climb? > 100bhp @ 6k, 120 @ 7k, 140 @ 8k, 150 @ 9k, 160 @ 10k. > > Burn it up, wear it out and re-install in cycle frame! > > Nic - > > Sorry about the politics ya'll > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > ====================== &g====== > > > f="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronics .c======================== " target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matr --> <http://www.matronic=======%0a%0a%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre %3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%0a%0a%0a%0a%3c/div%3e%3c/body%3e%0d%0a%3cpre%3e%3 cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=> <http://www.matronic=======%0a%0a%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre %3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%0a%0a%0a%0a%3c/div%3e%3c/body%3e%0d%0a%3cpre%3e%3 cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=> =========== <http://www.matronic=======%0a%0a%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre %3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%0a%0a%0a%0a%3c/div%3e%3c/body%3e%0d%0a%3cpre%3e%3 cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=> <http://www.matronic=======%0a%0a%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre %3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%0a%0a%0a%0a%3c/div%3e%3c/body%3e%0d%0a%3cpre%3e%3 cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=> <http://www.matronic=======%0a%0a%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre %3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%0a%0a%0a%0a%3c/div%3e%3c/body%3e%0d%0a%3cpre%3e%3 cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=> <http://www.matronic=======%0a%0a%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre %3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%0a%0a%0a%0a%3c/div%3e%3c/body%3e%0d%0a%3cpre%3e%3 cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=> <http://www.matronic=======%0a%0a%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre %3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%0a%0a%0a%0a%3c/div%3e%3c/body%3e%0d%0a%3cpre%3e%3 cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=> & Download, 7-Day Browse, Chat, FAQ, <http://www.matronic=======%0a%0a%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre %3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%0a%0a%0a%0a%3c/div%3e%3c/body%3e%0d%0a%3cpre%3e%3 cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=> <http://www.matronic=======%0a%0a%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre %3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%0a%0a%0a%0a%3c/div%3e%3c/body%3e%0d%0a%3cpre%3e%3 cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=> <http://www.matronic=======%0a%0a%3c/font%3e%3c/b%3e%3c/pre %3e%3c/div%3e%3c/div%3e%0a%0a%0a%0a%3c/div%3e%3c/body%3e%0d%0a%3cpre%3e%3 cb%3e%3cfont%20size=2%20color=> > http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List _____ No virus found in this message. 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    Time: 02:32:48 PM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: Re: Honda?
    Graham, In my case, my RAM Sube comes w/ an Autoflight, NZ helical gear PSRU...I opted for a 1.9 ratio since my engine has separate air intakes for each cyl. and puts out 140 hp; see: http://www.ramengines.com/id5.html for hp/torque "curves", see: On Apr 21, 2011, at 1:32 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote: > Glenn > which reduction drive do you have, toothed belt? The NSA conversion > was never reliable imho. That used what they called a "linear cam" > or something which was nothing more than a sprag clutch like the old > Continental starters. OK for about 500 hours then scrap > Graham


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    Time: 03:27:33 PM PST US
    From: glenn crowder <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Honda?
    Graham - I got rid of the NSI drive long ago as I needed more vertical spac e under the engine for a proper Kuchemann-Weber cooling duct under the engi ne. The Marcotte M150 drive made in Canada allowed this as it only has a 1 .25" offset between the crankshaft and prop hub. Fred has solved this problem by going to dual sidemount rads modeled after Alex Bowmans Honda VTEC install - very nice! Glenn From: grahamsingleton@btinternet.com Subject: Re: Europa-List: Honda? Glenn which reduction drive do you have=2C toothed belt? The NSA conversion was n ever reliable imho. That used what they called a "linear cam" or something which was nothing more than a sprag clutch like the old Continental starter s. OK for about 500 hours then scrap Graham From: glenn crowder <gcrowder2@hotmail.com> Sent: Thursday=2C 21 April=2C 2011 18:37:40 Subject: RE: Europa-List: Honda? Go for it Craig! Don't let any of the doomsayers on this list talk you out of it. This will be awesome. The modern motorcycle engines are bulletproof. I run the Sube EA81 engine in my bird and have been totally happy with it and has been totally reliable at least after I got the cooling system to work! Your'e going to have 10 times the fun with your project than all the other plug and play types. Please post your prog ress often! Glenn > From: craigb@onthenet.com.au > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: RE: Europa-List: Honda? > Date: Thu=2C 21 Apr 2011 21:10:40 +1000 > > > Why I asked=2C was I have a GSXR1300 Hayabusa engine sitting on the floor > waiting to go into mine. I have a new crank case being made to remove the > gearbox=2C to run a belt re-drive=2C I intend to de-rate mine by rev limi ting it > to about 7000 rpm which is max torque. The guy making the new bits tells me > the dressed engine ready to run come in at 140 lbs=2C that's with 65amp > alternator=2C 4 stage vacuum scavenge pump for the sump=2C starter=2C fly wheel and > wiring loom. > > If you have any photos I would love to see them > > Regards > > craig > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scouttwo > Sent: Thursday=2C April 21=2C 2011 1:50 PM > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: Honda? > > > - I was just looking at the last line of your post on the forum > You have a Honda CBR1000 engine powering your baby?- > > craig - > > Sure=2C why not? > > The parts will be done in a few months. > > Major firewall surgery is required to make kr-2 like front end with tall > spring gear. > > It will ride a little low on the new firewall=2C but i like the profile > modelled on the computer - p40 ish > > Big oil cooler=2C piston oil jetting=2C fully functioning modular factory > gearbox rocks. > > Big woodie race prop - shift down/winde out=2C 2000 fpm climb? > 100bhp @ 6k=2C 120 @ 7k=2C 140 @ 8k=2C 150 @ 9k=2C 160 @ 10k. > > Burn it up=2C wear it out and re-install in cycle frame! > > Nic - > > Sorry about the politics ya'll > > > > > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > ====================== &g====== > > > ="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronics.c ======================= " target="_blank" href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matr -->


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    Time: 03:31:11 PM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Honda?
    Craig=0AI've always admired the Sube engine, designed originally as an airc raft engine =0Aalternative I believe around or after WW2? Pity Rotax didn't copy it. Hope your =0Agearbox is reliable. =0A=0A=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A________________________________=0AFrom: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline. com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, 21 April, 2011 22:26 :25=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Honda?=0A=0AGraham,=0A=0AIn my case, my RAM Sube comes w/ an Autoflight, NZ helical gear PSRU...I opted =0Afor a 1.9 r atio since my engine has separate air intakes for each cyl. and puts =0Aout 140 hp; see:=0A=0Ahttp://www.ramengines.com/id5.html=0A=0Afor hp/torque "c urves", see:=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Apr 21, 2011, at 1:32 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote :=0A=0AGlenn=0A>which reduction drive do you have, toothed belt? The NSA co nversion was never =0A>reliable imho. That used what they called a "linear cam" or something which was =0A>nothing more than a sprag clutch like the o ld Continental starters. OK for about =0A>500 hours then scrap=0A>Graham=0A >=0A


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    Time: 03:45:52 PM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Honda?
    =0A=0AThanks Glemm=0Agraham=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom : glenn crowder <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0AS ent: Thursday, 21 April, 2011 23:21:15=0ASubject: RE: Europa-List: Honda? =0A=0A Graham - I got rid of the NSI drive long ago as I needed more vertic al space =0Aunder the engine for a proper Kuchemann-Weber cooling duct unde r the engine. =0AThe Marcotte M150 drive made in Canada allowed this as it only has a 1.25" =0Aoffset between the crankshaft and prop hub.=0A =0AFred has solved this problem by going to dual sidemount rads modeled after Alex =0ABowmans Honda VTEC install - very nice!=0A =0A Glenn =0A=0A =0A______________ __________________=0A Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:32:44 +0100=0AFrom: grahams ingleton@btinternet.com=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Honda?=0ATo: europa-lis t@matronics.com=0A=0A =0AGlenn=0Awhich reduction drive do you have, toothed belt? The NSA conversion was never =0Areliable imho. That used what they c alled a "linear cam" or something which was =0Anothing more than a sprag cl utch like the old Continental starters. OK for about =0A500 hours then scra p=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: glenn cr owder <gcrowder2@hotmail.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thurs day, 21 April, 2011 18:37:40=0ASubject: RE: Europa-List: Honda?=0A=0A Go fo r it Craig! Don't let any of the doomsayers on this list talk you out of =0Ait. This will be awesome. The modern =0A=0Amotorcycle engines are bull etproof. I run the Sube EA81 engine in my bird and =0Ahave been totally ha ppy with it and=0Ahas been totally reliable at least after I got the coolin g system to work! =0AYour'e going to have 10 times the fun with=0Ayour pro ject than all the other plug and play types. Please post your progress =0A often!=0A =0A Glen n=0A =0A =0A> From: craigb@onthenet.com.au=0A> To: europa-list@matronics.c om=0A> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Honda?=0A> Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2011 21:10:40 .com.au>=0A> =0A> Why I asked, was I have a GSXR1300 Hayabusa engine sittin g on the floor=0A> waiting to go into mine. I have a new crank case being m ade to remove the=0A> gearbox, to run a belt re-drive, I intend to de-rate mine by rev limiting it=0A> to about 7000 rpm which is max torque. The guy making the new bits tells me=0A> the dressed engine ready to run come in at 140 lbs, that's with 65amp=0A> alternator, 4 stage vacuum scavenge pump fo r the sump, starter, flywheel and=0A> wiring loom.=0A> =0A> If you have any photos I would love to see them=0A> =0A> Regards=0A> =0A> craig=0A> =0A> - ----Original Message-----=0A> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com =0A> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of scouttwo =0A> Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:50 PM=0A> To: europa-list@matronics.c om=0A> Subject: Europa-List: Honda?=0A> =0A> --> Europa-List message posted by: "scouttwo" <scouttwo@sbcglobal.net>=0A> =0A> - I was just looking at t he last line of your post on the forum=0A> You have a Honda CBR1000 engine powering your baby?-=0A> =0A> craig -=0A> =0A> Sure, why not?=0A> =0A> The parts will be done in a few months.=0A> =0A> Major firewall surgery is requ ired to make kr-2 like front end with tall =0A> spring gear.=0A> =0A> It wi ll ride a little low on the new firewall, but i like the profile =0A> model led on the computer - p40 ish=0A> =0A> Big oil cooler, piston oil jetting, fully functioning modular factory =0A> gearbox rocks.=0A> =0A> Big woodie r ace prop - shift down/winde out, 2000 fpm climb?=0A> 100bhp @ 6k, 120 @ 7k, 140 @ 8k, 150 @ 9k, 160 @ 10k.=0A> =0A> Burn it up, wear it out and re-ins tall in cycle frame!=0A> =0A> Nic -=0A> =0A> Sorry about the politics ya'll =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> =0A> -----=0A> No virus found in this m essage.=0A> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com=0A> =0A> =0A> ====== ==================0A&g====== ==0A> =0A> =0A> =0A=0A =0A="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa- List">http://www.matronics.c=============== ==========0A " target="_blank" href="http://forums.ma tronics.com">http://forums.matr --> =0Atarget=_blank>http://www.matr onics.com/Navigator?Europa-List =0Attp://forums.matronics.com =_blank>htt === =0A


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    Time: 04:37:51 PM PST US
    From: "craig" <craigb@onthenet.com.au>
    Subject: Honda?
    No I am not using the gearbox, just belt redrive From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRAHAM SINGLETON Sent: Friday, April 22, 2011 8:28 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Honda? Craig I've always admired the Sube engine, designed originally as an aircraft engine alternative I believe around or after WW2? Pity Rotax didn't copy it. Hope your gearbox is reliable. Graham _____ From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com> Sent: Thursday, 21 April, 2011 22:26:25 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Honda? Graham, In my case, my RAM Sube comes w/ an Autoflight, NZ helical gear PSRU...I opted for a 1.9 ratio since my engine has separate air intakes for each cyl. and puts out 140 hp; see: http://www.ramengines.com/id5.html for hp/torque "curves", see: On Apr 21, 2011, at 1:32 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote: Glenn which reduction drive do you have, toothed belt? The NSA conversion was never reliable imho. That used what they called a "linear cam" or something which was nothing more than a sprag clutch like the old Continental starters. OK for about 500 hours then scrap Graham




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