---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 04/25/11: 16 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:29 AM - 912 new oil pressure sender and gauge wiring (graeme bird) 2. 12:30 AM - Re: 912 new oil pressure sender and gauge wiring (graeme bird) 3. 12:36 AM - Re: benwick fuel flow instructions (PHILLIPS I) 4. 02:13 AM - Re: 912 new oil pressure sender and gauge wiring (Richard Wheelwright) 5. 02:25 AM - Re: 2011 French RSA rally (houlihan) 6. 02:49 AM - Notams (David Joyce) 7. 03:21 AM - Re: Notams (Kevin Challis) 8. 03:55 AM - Re: Gas Springs (Jim Brown) 9. 06:04 AM - Re: Gas Springs (Paul McAllister) 10. 08:59 AM - SPEED KIT FOR SALE (Curtis Jaussi) 11. 09:47 AM - Gas Springs (Erich Trombley) 12. 10:04 AM - Re: Gas Springs (Bud Yerly) 13. 11:28 AM - Re: head set (ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk) 14. 02:50 PM - Re: Gas Springs (Robert Berube) 15. 03:11 PM - Gas Springs (Robert Berube) 16. 11:37 PM - Re: head set (David Joyce) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:29:48 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: 912 new oil pressure sender and gauge wiring From: "graeme bird" I have just struggled to get the oil pressure readings on my new 912 install with the skydrive VDO gauge and new style sender (mainly because I thought it was oil purge/thermostat issues). The information supplied with the gauge was sparse and misleading. In case anyone else is a the point of wiring, New sender is current based 4-20mA and requires +12v (red) and signal to gauge(white) the gauge needs ground and signal, not power and signal. -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338033#338033 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:30:49 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: 912 new oil pressure sender and gauge wiring From: "graeme bird" Sorry, correction Power on red wire to sender, and ground to gauge. doh! -------- Graeme Bird G-UMPY Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP Build nearing completion Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338034#338034 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 12:36:08 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: benwick fuel flow instructions From: PHILLIPS I Hi David I cannot help with the instructions but i vaguely remember that the Benwick transducer wasn't allowed by the PFA/LAA because it didn't have a clear bi-pass for fuel if the impeller seized causing fuel starvation, it would need checking with the PFA/LAA first if i was you, regards Ivor G-IVER On 24 April 2011 20:00, David Joyce wrote: > can anyone on list mail me a copy of the Benwick fuel flow system > instructions / manual? > > > TIA > > > rgds > > David Joyce (the other one) > > > Sent to you from David Joyce > www.eastmidsspas.com > > > * * > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:13:13 AM PST US From: Richard Wheelwright Subject: Re: Europa-List: 912 new oil pressure sender and gauge wiring Graeme Bird=0A-------- I had a similar problem, I talked to Conrad at Conair Sports and he sent me this the attached diagram. I have w ired mine like the first diagram,-and all works fine now. Just note that you also have the new pressure gauge too. as it dose not work with the old or original VDO gauge. =0A=0A=============== ======0A=0ARichard Wheelwright=0A========== ===========0A=0AFrom: graeme bird =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Monday, 25 April 2011, 8:26=0ASubj ect: Re: Europa-List: 912 new oil pressure sender and gauge wiring=0A=0A--> Europa-List message posted by: "graeme bird" =0A=0AI h ave just struggled to get the oil pressure readings on my new 912 install w ith the skydrive VDO gauge and new style sender (mainly because I thought i t was oil purge/thermostat issues). The information supplied with the gauge was sparse and misleading. In case anyone else is a the point of wiring, N ew sender is current based 4-20mA and requires +12v (red) and signal to gau ge(white) the gauge needs ground and signal, not power and signal.=0A=0A--- -----=0AGraeme Bird=0AG-UMPY=0AMono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP=0A Build nearing completion=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Aht tp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338033#338033=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A ============= ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: 2011 French RSA rally From: houlihan Hi Remi. Thanks for the update, I have edited the club web site events page to reflect your information. please check to see if it is OK on your browser ! regards Tim On 24 April 2011 10:46, Remi Guerner wrote: > > Hi all, > This is to inform you that the 2011 RSA french rally location and dates > have been recently changed: it will take place in Blois (about 100 miles SW > from Paris) on July 1st to 3rd. Informations will be available soon on > www.rsafrance.com > To those reading the Europa Flyer, please note that the dates and location > mentioned in the last issue are wrong. > Hope to see many Europas there. > Regards > Remi Guerner > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337973#337973 > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:25 AM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Europa-List: Notams For those flying in or to the UK, who haven't yet come across it (it is written up in May Flyer) www.skydemonlight.com have just introduced a brilliant free program in conjunction with NATS for getting Notams on any readily input route. Takes only moments and displayed graphically. Highly recommended Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:21:28 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Notams From: Kevin Challis Notam plot also free been around for ages. Easy to use and very clear. Kevin On 25 Apr 2011, at 10:45, "David Joyce" wrote: > > For those flying in or to the UK, who haven't yet come across it (it is written up in May Flyer) www.skydemonlight.com have just introduced a brilliant free program in conjunction with NATS for getting Notams on any readily input route. Takes only moments and displayed graphically. Highly recommended > Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ > > > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 03:55:06 AM PST US From: Jim Brown Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas Springs Paul, take one of the struts to an auto parts store,they have, or can get =0Areplacements... I got mine at NAPA auto parts.=0A=0AJim Brown=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Paul McAllister =0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, April 24, 201 1 2:55:09 PM=0ASubject: Europa-List: Gas Springs=0A=0AHi All,=0A=0AMy gas s prings don't seem to be able to hold the doors up these days and I need =0A to replace them. I was wondering if anyone happens to know of an equivalent gas =0Aspring that can be sourced in the US.=0A=0AThe Europa supplied gas spring is made by Industrial Customline in the UK with a =0Ap/n of- GS869 9-1.- There WEB site does not give me any clue as to the =0Aspecification s of the spring so I haven't been able to cross reference it.=0A=0AThanks - ================ =0A ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:04:04 AM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas Springs From: Paul McAllister Bob, I did troll through Mcmaster's site yesterday but the missing piece of data I need is the strength of the spring. I don't want something too strong or it will distort the doors. I guess I could pull mine off and measure what they are and get the something a little stronger, but I was hoping someone had "gone before me" so to speak. Thanks for the tip though, Paul > Paul, > > McMaster-Carr ( http://www.mcmaster.com/ and search "gas springs") has a > broad assortment of gas springs and a good information page. I think they > may have suitable replacements. > > > Bob Borger > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:59:10 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: SPEED KIT FOR SALE From: Curtis Jaussi I have for sale the trigear speed kit that is complete and never been installed. I would like to sell it at a discount on the factory price if anyone is interested. Please contact me offline at cjaussi@gmail.com or call 435-621-8945. ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 09:47:08 AM PST US From: "Erich Trombley" Subject: Europa-List: Gas Springs Paul, I am in the same situation as you. I tried McMaster to no avial. They have some that are close but not quite the same, and I don't want to relocate mounting brackets. I have been told that Europa supplied ga s springs can be recharged. I did notice that there is a schrader valve , so maybe they can be recharged with nitrogen. I need to take a closer look when I get some time. ErichN28ET Classic Mono 914 Hi All, My gas springs don't seem to be able to hold the doors up these days and I need to replace them. I was wondering if anyone happens to know of an equivalent gas spring that can be sourced in the US. The Europa supplied gas spring is made by Industrial Customline in the U K with a p/n of GS8699-1. There WEB site does not give me any clue as to the specifications of the spring so I haven't been able to cross reference i t. Thanks - Paul ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 10:04:06 AM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas Springs Guys, Kim Prout and I discussed the same and we have a US manufacturer that will refill the struts. We need 45 lbs normally as we are now using a thicker window which is heavier than the original glass. I will be talking to Kim when he gets back next week and will arrange for the first set to get Nitrogen refills. We'll test and report back to the group. I too have looked for replacement struts, and off the shelf does not work quite right. I'm lazy, I don't want to have to move my fittings. Regards, Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: Erich Trombley To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 12:42 PM Subject: Europa-List: Gas Springs Paul, I am in the same situation as you. I tried McMaster to no avial. They have some that are close but not quite the same, and I don't want to relocate mounting brackets. I have been told that Europa supplied gas springs can be recharged. I did notice that there is a schrader valve, so maybe they can be recharged with nitrogen. I need to take a closer look when I get some time. Erich N28ET Classic Mono 914 Hi All, My gas springs don't seem to be able to hold the doors up these days and I need to replace them. I was wondering if anyone happens to know of an equivalent gas spring that can be sourced in the US. The Europa supplied gas spring is made by Industrial Customline in the UK with a p/n of GS8699-1. There WEB site does not give me any clue as to the specifications of the spring so I haven't been able to cross reference it. Thanks - Paul ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 11:28:32 AM PST US From: "ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk" Subject: Re: Europa-List: head set Hi! David I can probably fix you up. Regards Bob H G-PTAG >----Original Message---- >From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk >Date: 24/04/2011 11:01 >To: "Europa list" >Subj: Europa-List: head set > org.uk> > >Does anyone by any chance have any old head sets (that you have replaced by >shiny new ones perhaps) that they would like to donate (or perhaps long >term loan) to one of our local schools (Marling School, Stroud) who are in >the late stages of building a Vans kitplane under the Build a Plane Project? >When complete the school has the use of the plane for 150 hrs of flying, >before it is sold on to finance the next project. Needless to say the school >is pressed to find spare cash to buy items that are not part of the original >kit. >Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ, (Helping to supervise the build) > > >_- =========================================================== > > ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 02:50:31 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: Gas Springs From: Robert Berube Guys, At Flight Crafters, we use Easy Lift of North America for gas springs www.bansbach.com part #B333F46-100-300/160N which is an exact duplicate of the Europa Supplied strut. I recently ordered with 2 more pounds pressure 300/165N. Price is around 95.00 each plus shipping. If you need 45 pounds, they can make them up as the normal Europa strut is 30 pounds. Also you can order with or without the valve. Generally they won't recharge if they are over a year old with the recharge cost at 20.00. Bob Berube On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Bud Yerly wrote: > Guys, > Kim Prout and I discussed the same and we have a US manufacturer that will > refill the struts. We need 45 lbs normally as we are now using a thicker > window which is heavier than the original glass. > I will be talking to Kim when he gets back next week and will arrange for > the first set to get Nitrogen refills. We'll test and report back to the > group. > > I too have looked for replacement struts, and off the shelf does not work > quite right. I'm lazy, I don't want to have to move my fittings. > > Regards, > Bud > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Erich Trombley > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Monday, April 25, 2011 12:42 PM > *Subject:* Europa-List: Gas Springs > > Paul, > > I am in the same situation as you. I tried McMaster to no avial. They > have some that are close but not quite the same, and I don't want to > relocate mounting brackets. I have been told that Europa supplied gas > springs can be recharged. I did notice that there is a schrader valve, so > maybe they can be recharged with nitrogen. I need to take a closer look > when I get some time. > > Erich > N28ET Classic Mono 914 > > > *Hi All,* > > *My gas springs don't seem to be able to hold the doors up these days and > I* > *need to replace them. I was wondering if anyone happens to know of an* > *equivalent gas spring that can be sourced in the US.* > > *The Europa supplied gas spring is made by Industrial Customline in the UK > * > *with a p/n of GS8699-1. There WEB site does not give me any clue as to > the* > *specifications of the spring so I haven't been able to cross reference > it.* > > *Thanks - Paul* > > ____________________________________________________________ > Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! > > * > > href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronhref="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com > href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c* > > * > > * > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 03:11:15 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Gas Springs From: Robert Berube Guys, At Flight Crafters, I order the gas springs from Easylift www.bansbach.com they have an exact duplicate of the Europa Spring #B333F46-100-300/160N at 30lbs. I recently ordered some with 2 more lbs. #300/165N. They can make them any pressure you want with or without recharge valves. Recharge cost is 20.00. The cost is just under 100.00 each or less depending on how many you order. Bob Berube ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 11:37:41 PM PST US From: "David Joyce" Subject: Re: Europa-List: head set Bob, Thanks for that but have already been offered a pair by Alan Burrell. Will come back to you if things don't work out. Regards, David ----- Original Message ----- From: Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 7:22 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: head set > > > Hi! David > I can probably fix you up. > Regards > Bob H G-PTAG > >>----Original Message---- >>From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk >>Date: 24/04/2011 11:01 >>To: "Europa list" >>Subj: Europa-List: head set >> > org.uk> > >> > >>Does anyone by any chance have any old head sets (that you have > replaced by > >>shiny new ones perhaps) that they would like to donate (or perhaps > long > >>term loan) to one of our local schools (Marling School, Stroud) who > are in > >>the late stages of building a Vans kitplane under the Build a Plane > Project? > >>When complete the school has the use of the plane for 150 hrs of > flying, > >>before it is sold on to finance the next project. Needless to say the > school > >>is pressed to find spare cash to buy items that are not part of the > original > >>kit. > >>Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ, (Helping to supervise the build) > >> > >> > > >>_- > =========================================================== > >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.