---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/29/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:03 AM - Re: Full swivel tail wheel (Pete Lawless) 2. 01:37 AM - Prop Balance (Richard Lamprey) 3. 08:11 AM - Re: MOD 56 Tri gear speed fairing Nose wheel (AirEupora) 4. 10:49 AM - Re: Prop Balance (Fred Klein) 5. 07:11 PM - Best device to ratify the Actual Fuel Flow on a 914 (Tony Renshaw) 6. 07:11 PM - Doors (Tony Renshaw) 7. 09:21 PM - Re: Full swivel tail wheel (Bud Yerly) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:03:50 AM PST US From: "Pete Lawless" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Full swivel tail wheel Hi Erich Looks good should also improve the handling in the hanger. What is the difference in weight? Pete -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Erich Trombley Sent: 29 April 2011 04:25 Subject: Europa-List: Full swivel tail wheel Hi All, Just a quick note to let you all know that I converted the stock Europa tail wheel to a full swivel unit. The ground handling has improved significantly. For those not familiar with a full swivel tail wheel it works just like the stock tail wheel with the exception that as the tail wheel moves past +/- 30 degrees a detent is released and the tail wheel is free to swivel through 300 degrees. Wonderful! I purchased a Van's tail wheel unit sans tail whee and tail spring. Link below. http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1290390847-482-22 5&bro wse=airframe&product=tailwheel-assy The conversion was pretty straight forward; consisted of cutting off the end of the tail spring, having the last 2" turned down to remove the taper, and drilled/reamed to secure the tail wheel assembly. Pictures attached and posted to the forum website. Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914 -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:37:17 AM PST US From: "Richard Lamprey" Subject: Europa-List: Prop Balance Jeff, Let the spinner float in a tank of water, rotate it, see which side gravitates down, then compensate on the other side with a weight of some kind (eg washer) glued or glassed into the inside. Spin again, if it spins without bias, its balanced, hey presto. Richard Europa 168, 5Y-LRY, Kenya ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:11:25 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: MOD 56 Tri gear speed fairing Nose wheel From: "AirEupora" I'd like to thank Bob Borger, Ivor and Ian Rickard. I completed the landing gear part of MOD 56 with their help. I have attached a picture of the SK20 attached to the nose gear folk. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=338441#338441 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:49:41 AM PST US From: Fred Klein Subject: Re: Europa-List: Prop Balance On Apr 29, 2011, at 12:27 AM, Richard Lamprey wrote: > Let the spinner float in a tank of water, rotate it, see which side > gravitates down, then compensate on the other side with a weight of > some kind (eg washer) glued or glassed into the inside. Spin again, > if it spins without bias, its balanced, hey presto. Richard...excellent...straightforward and simple... Why am I thinking you must be a technical consultant for the Harry Potter films? :-))) Cheers, Fred do not archive ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:47 PM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Europa-List: Best device to ratify the Actual Fuel Flow on a 914 Hi, I am attempting to determine where my fuel lines will go within my tunnel, through my Singleton Firewall, and then up to my 914, then what path is best for my fuel return line to take to route fuel back to the tank, without going downhill, and then back up again. This is hard without having the 914 out of its box, which is why I'd like advice for where in the firewall I should cut holes for my fuel hose. I am building a Bob Berube Conventional undercarriage, so I don't have bungee cord to consider. I also see merit in having the fuel lines supported within the tunnel, albeit I have 2 bulkheads to transit, the first is an internal stiffener and dividing panel about 6" back from the firewall, and another stiffening bulkhead an inch or so forward of the throttle, that links internally within the tunnel the front vertical face of the thigh supports, where my maingear is mounted underneath. This is to create a box section stiffener. So, how high up can I run my fuel lines in the tunnel to exit Grahams firewall, and then have enough room for no radical bends up to engine inlet positions? Thanks.......also: I am aware of Matt Draille's Fuel Flow Controller advertised on his home page, and historically I recall others being available. I have only 1 Floscan 201B, and they aint cheap, plus I don't have the said device yet either. If Matts is the best, well problem solved, but I am wondering if there is a workaround, such as an EFIS that will do this. How have others with a 914 solved this problem?? Thanks Reg Tony Renshaw ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:11:48 PM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Europa-List: Doors Gidday, I am fitting my doors for the first time. I have NOT "snicked" them, or attempted to alter their shape before installing the door hardware. It is in ! So, after some adjustment to the door hinge tangs to get them to fit in the rebates I notice my door doesn't fit the fuse. It appears to be too long aftwise for the rebate, and also too long in the vertical, hitting the bottom of the fuse rebate when pushed home. Has anyone sanded the aft vertical edge of a door to get it to fit, or the bottom edge? I hesitate to do this as I know I have a history of taking off stuff that I shouldn't, and its a real bugger to put back! Is there a strategy to applying heat to the back vertical door stile to bend it nominally more, and thereby raise it? Any advice on how to fit this up would be appreciated, and I seem to have created a bit of a problem by installing the hardware prior to shaping the doors, so most of Buds advice I have already foolishly ignored, or overlooked. Any other takers?? Reg Tony R. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:21:40 PM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Full swivel tail wheel Eric, Have tried the same swivel on both the conventional and mono. Please keep the lock up mechanism in tune. If the tail wheel breaks loose unwanted, you're off to the races. In the mono, it is your only control below 30 of course. Quick story about my now deceased buddy Bob Knapp, one of the finest stick and rudder guys I have ever known, but just a bit on the crazy side. We had the conventional gear of Rich Semintilli's loaded near the aft CG, which puts more load on the tail wheel of course, and Bob and I took it out for a test run, and just for grins, I did a tail wheel breakout test and applied half power with Bob Knapp and myself (about 500lbs with gas) and 25 pound bag in the back. I pulsed the rudder to check the tail wheel and it was locked initially until I pushed hard back to correct to the center line... I used the hand brakes to regain control and lock it back in and Bob said that was a pretty aggressive rudder pulse and it was normal for that to happen, even on his RV4s. I handed the plane off to Bob for the takeoff so I could monitor the EIS and all went well, we flew about 20 minutes checking the oil temps and verify the oil leak was cured and came back in to land, I came around and did three touch and goes and Bob did the full stop. Just as Bob was about to touch the tail wheel first, we picked up a bit of drift from the crosswind and the tail wheel broke free on the three point touchdown and we darted off to the boonies. The brakes, rudder and Rotax/Airmaster drug us off before we hit anything. The post mortem on the tail wheel indicated the pin chipped off a bit. Figuring a defective part, we replaced the pin and we tightened the tail wheel breakout spring by replacing it with a firmer one as suggested by the folks at Vans, but the extra force soon began to wear after the 20th flight full of touch and goes (Bob liked lots of touch and goes). One Sunday morning Bob was flying with a rather busty plussed sized lady to show her what it was like in a small airplane, the tail wheel broke free unannounced as he applied full power while still turning on the runway a bit. She really liked the quick turns the plane would do, and said it was an E ticket ride. Bob called me up and asked me to change out the tail wheel back to the original. If our main wheel was closer to the leading edge of the mean chord, it wouldn't be as hard on the locking pin of the tail wheel in my opinion. I like the Graham Singleton limiter better than the roll pin of the original as it keeps you out of trouble when you get the plane a bit out of sorts, provided you keep the stick back and pressure on the tail wheel. However, you can't pull the plane backwards unless you have a tail wheel caddy. I like the flat square shaped tire you have chosen as it has more surface area and doesn't skip on those wet tar lines or painted stripes as bad as our rounded original tire. If we could only find someone who made a lockable full swivel tail wheel as was used in the world war two fighters and trainers. Lock the wheel for takeoff and in some cases landing, and leave it unlocked for ground maneuvering. If I only had the time. Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: Erich Trombley To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2011 11:25 PM Subject: Europa-List: Full swivel tail wheel Hi All, Just a quick note to let you all know that I converted the stock Europa tail wheel to a full swivel unit. The ground handling has improved significantly. For those not familiar with a full swivel tail wheel it works just like the stock tail wheel with the exception that as the tail wheel moves past +/- 30 degrees a detent is released and the tail wheel is free to swivel through 300 degrees. Wonderful! I purchased a Van's tail wheel unit sans tail whee and tail spring. Link below. http://www.vansaircraft.com/cgi-bin/catalog.cgi?ident=1290390847-482-22 5&browse=airframe&product=tailwheel-assy The conversion was pretty straight forward; consisted of cutting off the end of the tail spring, having the last 2" turned down to remove the taper, and drilled/reamed to secure the tail wheel assembly. Pictures attached and posted to the forum website. Erich Trombley N28ET Classic Mono 914 ____________________________________________________________ Get Free Email with Video Mail & Video Chat! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.