---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 05/10/11: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 01:11 AM - Re: Re: fuel pressure problem, urgent (Bob Harrison) 2. 04:54 AM - Re: fuel pressure problem, urgent (europapa) 3. 07:13 AM - Day access gate tickets AND Saturday Evening Event Tickets for Wickenby Wings and Wheels Airshow 18th and 19th June. UK and Europe Public and Forum Members only. (Bob Harrison) 4. 07:36 AM - Re: Re: Fuel Tank Capacity (Bud Yerly) 5. 08:45 AM - Re: Fuel Tank Capacity (Remi Guerner) 6. 09:08 AM - fuel pressure problem, urgent (Guerner Remi) 7. 09:41 AM - FW: rudder pedal adjustment (Mike Gamble) 8. 10:45 AM - Re: FW: rudder pedal adjustment (Kevin Challis) 9. 01:43 PM - Carb, fuel and oil tube heat shielding (Sidsel & Svein Johnsen) 10. 02:23 PM - Strengthen Door with Mod 67 (AirEupora) 11. 10:59 PM - Re: FW: rudder pedal adjustment (PHILLIPS I) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 01:11:15 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: fuel pressure problem, urgent Hi! Juergen. I haven't been watching your messages but can't help wondering when you say "tighter"? Surely you are fixing the restrictor in the pipe with a jubilee clip to clamp it in place? Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of europapa Sent: 10 May 2011 06:54 Subject: Europa-List: Re: fuel pressure problem, urgent Problem solved! Yesterday I replaced all fuel hoses and had my first planed landing for weeks. Today I cut the replaced hose all the length from the electrical pump to the mechanical pump and found a desquamation that worked like a valve, closing when the fuel flow was high. Fine but some questions remain: The restrictor int the return line was not absent as the mechanics supposed but the ordered one from Europa Aircraft is so much tighter than the one once delivered with the kit. The hole in the first one is about 2mm and the new one is 0,2mm! Now with the tighter restrictor I achieve a bit more than 0,2bar fuel pressure in the full power setting. I never had a working fuel pressure gage till now so I do not know what the pressure was with the original restrictor. What kind of restrictor do you have installed and how high is your fuel pressure? Thank you so much for your assistance so far! Juergen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339400#339400 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:54:47 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: fuel pressure problem, urgent From: "europapa" Hi Bob, think it is only a problem with the phraseology. The restrictor that came with the kit has been screed ( or glued ) into the T-peace of the return line. The hole in this ristictor is about 2mm. The restrictor I ordered last week from Europa Aircraft is a single part that has to be secured by a clamped in the hose of the return line. This restrictor has got a hole ( ore better "bore"? ) of about 0,2mm. Thats what I mean with "tighter". (not to promote impure thoughts........). Juergen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339410#339410 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:13:41 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: Europa-List: Day access gate tickets AND Saturday Evening Event Tickets for Wickenby Wings and Wheels Airshow 18th and 19th June. UK and Europe Public and Forum Members only. Hi! All I hadn't realised that another form is needed to prepay for advance tickets to the airshow and Saturday evening Marquee event for the general public in addition to the campers/ exhibitors form previously sent. Never mind here it is and it gave me chance to make two communications to you ! Log on to :- http://www.wickenbyairfield.com/www/ or Just Google Wickenby Wings and Wheels 2011 and all will be revealed!. Select "buy tickets" option. to buy via pay pal or send cheque drawn to Wickenby Wings and Wheels at CR Wheeldon Manor Farm Buslingthorpe Lincoln LN3 5AQ It promises to be a stunning event do come please now log on ...don't delay put your hand in your pockets now before you forget. Regards Bob Harrison. ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:36:16 AM PST US From: "Bud Yerly" Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Fuel Tank Capacity Fred It's that fore and aft up and down thrusting motion one uses to fill the tank of course. As for the heat, yes it is, and with a barn full of repairs, new builds and two nearing first flight we're all exhausted. Bud ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Klein To: europa-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 11:39 PM Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Fuel Tank Capacity On May 9, 2011, at 3:08 PM, Bud Yerly wrote: Keep in mind, the tail dragger will hold less because of the trapped air in the front of the tank, unless there is some shacking and tail lifting involved. "shacking" you say...hmmmmm...shacking indeed...would that be some kind of dance, or an old F-4 fighter jock term? Is it getting pretty hot already down your way Bud? Fred do not archive http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List http://www.matronics.com/contribution ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 08:45:03 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fuel Tank Capacity From: "Remi Guerner" In my Monowheel, I found that lifting the starboard wing while refueling allows to add about 3 more liters. Remi Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339434#339434 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:08:20 AM PST US From: Guerner Remi Subject: Europa-List: fuel pressure problem, urgent Juergen, The diameter of restrictor supplied by Europa is 0.7 mm. In their Install Manual Rotax recommand 0.35 mm. I have tried both and now have 0.5 which seems to be a good compromise between enough pressure and enough return flow. I also found that the smaller diameter gets plugged from time to time. You will have this problem with 0.2 for sure. My typical fuel pressure at cruise with the electrical pump turned off is 3 to 4 PSI which is in the middle of the range specified by Rotax. Remi F-PGKL monowheel, 912ULS <<<<>>>> ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:41:30 AM PST US From: "Mike Gamble" Subject: Europa-List: FW: rudder pedal adjustment Re sent due bounce-- Sent: 16 April 2011 21:37 Subject: rudder pedal adjustment How do we adjust the rudder pedals for short ar-s like myself after aircraft completion? The manual suggests cable shortening using home made triangular 3 bolt clamps in the rear fuse but these would bounce around the fuselage bottom of the XS with the extended tail wheel. So far I have been using cushions to adjust the body. What are others doing? Thanks Mike XS mono G-CFMP ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:45:36 AM PST US From: Kevin Challis Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: rudder pedal adjustment Mike I am 5' 8" and the standard set up is fine. I know someone shorter who has a thicker seat back & bottom which can be slipped in. This setup works well w ith no permanent mods being required. Kevin On 10 May 2011, at 17:38, "Mike Gamble" wrote: > Re sent due bounce-- > Sent: 16 April 2011 21:37 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: rudder pedal adjustment > > > > How do we adjust the rudder pedals for short ar=94s like myself afte r aircraft completion? The manual suggests cable shortening using home made t riangular 3 bolt clamps in the rear fuse but these would bounce around the fuselage bottom of the XS with the extended tail wheel. So far I have been u sing cushions to adjust the body. What are others doing? > > Thanks > > Mike > > XS mono > > G-CFMP > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 01:43:12 PM PST US From: "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" Subject: Europa-List: Carb, fuel and oil tube heat shielding Ref. recent discussion regarding risk of fuel vapor lock and how to shield the fuel system from engine heat. Attached is photo and sketch of the carb heat shields I made out of s/s steel plate. Fixed to the exhaust pipes by s/s hose clamps. The clamps expand and contract in approximate sync with the exhaust pipes, so no cracking discovered and no re-tightening required. As will be seen, the carbs have heating blocks installed, which (as stated by Graham) makes the factory heat shields difficult to use. All fuel hoses forward of firewall are protected by both fire sleeve and heat sleeve (claimed to reflect approx. 90% of radiated heat) - see photo. Both purchased from racing car supply shop in the UK (don't recall name, and I am away from my file). I also use the heat sleeve on oil lines running very close to the engine. ///// Regarding the fuel return restrictor: I use the restrictor supplied by the factory in 2001. Do not know the hole diameter, but it is less than 0.5 mm. The opening is indeed surprisingly small, but bear in mind that gasoline has very low viscosity compared to e.g. water. (I sent an earlier message today with same heading, but it appears it did not go through. If it does pop up, pls disregard it) Regards Svein LN-SKJ ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 02:23:57 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Strengthen Door with Mod 67 From: "AirEupora" Well, I have successful strengthen one door to the point that I don't have a budge on this door any more. MOD 67 took away to much material and then re-installing the cover caused most of my problems. I made a three layer ply of fiberglass 1" tape inside of the door. I held it in place with aluminum angle on the inside and outside. Lots of clamps. Once that was dry I re-installed the cover with microfibers and again lots of clamps with aluminum angle on both sides. The door fit nicely. I started on the pilot's door today. I have one problem and maybe somebody can help. The edge where the MOD 67 cut out into the door area I only have about 1/4" clearance and the door frame. The seal is over 1/4" thick. I need a seal in the area that is smaller in width. Any ideals out there? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=339478#339478 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0282_723.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0279_589.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0278_108.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_0276_164.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:59:55 PM PST US Subject: Re: Europa-List: FW: rudder pedal adjustment From: PHILLIPS I I flitted two turnbuckle's in the rear fuselage to eliminate cable stretch, but so far they are fine, It would be a awkward job but they could be retro fitted through the D panel, Ivor G-IVER On 10 May 2011 17:38, Mike Gamble wrote: > Re sent due bounce-- > *Sent:* 16 April 2011 21:37 > *To:* europa-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* rudder pedal adjustment > > > How do we adjust the rudder pedals for short ar=97s like myself after > aircraft completion? The manual suggests cable shortening using home made > triangular 3 bolt clamps in the rear fuse but these would bounce around > the fuselage bottom of the XS with the extended tail wheel. So far I hav e > been using cushions to adjust the body. What are others doing? > > Thanks > > Mike > > XS mono > > G-CFMP > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message europa-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Europa-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/europa-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/europa-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.