---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 05/12/11: 6 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 12:59 AM - Re: Crimping Wires ......Link (Bob Harrison) 2. 01:30 AM - Denmark suspends ..Schengen Agreement....? likley effects on European fliers\? (Bob Harrison) 3. 02:24 AM - Re: Crimping Wires ......Link (Frans Veldman) 4. 03:05 AM - Re: Crimping Wires ......Link (Tony Renshaw) 5. 03:35 AM - Re: Crimping Wires ......Link (Bob Harrison) 6. 04:07 AM - Re: Crimping Wires ......Link (craig) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:59:50 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Crimping Wires ......Link Hi! Tony /all Your varied list of crimpers hasn't included for the type recommended by my friend Ivor Phillips which really applies to crimping very small wires and MINIATURE barrel and pins needed for "D" sub connectors which are used to connect directly into, say, the rear of a GPS unit or Auto Pilot (in my case). I recommend, in the quest of eliminating the practice of soldering which causes wire embrittlement, that you take a look at www.lasaero.com and find in their catalogue E300-015 Crimper, D-sub closed barrel .( go to the Electrical section and select TOOLS) Having had a number of solder wire connections fail I suggest that new builds involved with panel wiring should seriously attempt to eliminate all soldering. I don't know it's origin but I do know of a similar crimper (EX Concord Maintenance Engineer) which actually has a variable torque setting embodied in it. In the catalogue there is also listed the small tool for releasing the barrel sockets and pins from the rear of the "D" Sub plugs and sockets. Happy Days !!!!!!!!!!!!!"Friggin" wiring !!!!! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw Sent: 12 May 2011 04:15 Subject: Europa-List: Crimping Wires ......Link Hi, For those doing electrics, or about to start, I found this link very informative http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/wire_termination Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Aussie P.S. If anyone knows of a "must do" in Capetown SA, please let me know. ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:30:51 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: Europa-List: Denmark suspends ..Schengen Agreement....? likley effects on European fliers\? HI! All Sorry if any of you who dislike my political persuasions are offended but I do feel that this item could spell problems for our European Private Flying and hopefully someone reading this will be able to discuss the implications on European Europa Tour groups? I am imagining the return Journey from say Swedish EAA Rally needing to land in (or overfly) Denmark en-route home. Unless suspending means only "partial suspension"? GO TO :- http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2011/05/denmark-suspends-schengen-agreemen t.html#more The EU and our esteemed Coalition Government are clearly "cocking a deaf ear" to Italy's plight (not withstanding the appalling situation in Greece) ref. being inundated by refugees from the North Africa Region which enables our borders to be under threat since any such migration to the UK will considered as being from "another EU country" I am including a couple of Danish friends in this message which may prompt some "on the spot" comment with regards to their forth coming Rally? Regards Bob Harrison ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:24:41 AM PST US From: Frans Veldman Subject: Re: Europa-List: Crimping Wires ......Link On 05/12/2011 09:56 AM, Bob Harrison wrote: > Having had a number of solder wire connections fail I suggest that new > builds involved with panel wiring should seriously attempt to eliminate all > soldering. Soldering isn't bad if you do it properly. Even new Boeing airplanes rely on thousands of solder connections. Key is that you properly support the wire. Solder is brittle and will break if a wire vibrates constantly. So, bundle up the wires and do not let them "hang" on the solder joints. Frans ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:05:48 AM PST US From: Tony Renshaw Subject: Re: Europa-List: Crimping Wires ......Link Shoe Gloo is fantastic, but I hear you Frans. That stuff just locks EVERYTHING together forever. I will however move to crimps for other than my MAC trim servo that I am doing now, with the very fine wires Reg Tony Renshaw On 12/05/2011, at 7:21 PM, Frans Veldman wrote: > > On 05/12/2011 09:56 AM, Bob Harrison wrote: >> Having had a number of solder wire connections fail I suggest that new >> builds involved with panel wiring should seriously attempt to eliminate all >> soldering. > > Soldering isn't bad if you do it properly. Even new Boeing airplanes > rely on thousands of solder connections. > Key is that you properly support the wire. Solder is brittle and will > break if a wire vibrates constantly. So, bundle up the wires and do not > let them "hang" on the solder joints. > > Frans > > > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:35:51 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Crimping Wires ......Link Yeah! Frans. May work for a professional instrumentation engineer.......dream on ! Regards Bob H GPTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Frans Veldman Sent: 12 May 2011 10:21 Subject: Re: Europa-List: Crimping Wires ......Link On 05/12/2011 09:56 AM, Bob Harrison wrote: > Having had a number of solder wire connections fail I suggest that new > builds involved with panel wiring should seriously attempt to eliminate all > soldering. Soldering isn't bad if you do it properly. Even new Boeing airplanes rely on thousands of solder connections. Key is that you properly support the wire. Solder is brittle and will break if a wire vibrates constantly. So, bundle up the wires and do not let them "hang" on the solder joints. Frans ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:07:30 AM PST US From: "craig" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Crimping Wires ......Link FWIW you can get COLD solder which should solve this issue -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bob Harrison Sent: Thursday, May 12, 2011 5:57 PM Subject: RE: Europa-List: Crimping Wires ......Link Hi! Tony /all Your varied list of crimpers hasn't included for the type recommended by my friend Ivor Phillips which really applies to crimping very small wires and MINIATURE barrel and pins needed for "D" sub connectors which are used to connect directly into, say, the rear of a GPS unit or Auto Pilot (in my case). I recommend, in the quest of eliminating the practice of soldering which causes wire embrittlement, that you take a look at www.lasaero.com and find in their catalogue E300-015 Crimper, D-sub closed barrel .( go to the Electrical section and select TOOLS) Having had a number of solder wire connections fail I suggest that new builds involved with panel wiring should seriously attempt to eliminate all soldering. I don't know it's origin but I do know of a similar crimper (EX Concord Maintenance Engineer) which actually has a variable torque setting embodied in it. In the catalogue there is also listed the small tool for releasing the barrel sockets and pins from the rear of the "D" Sub plugs and sockets. Happy Days !!!!!!!!!!!!!"Friggin" wiring !!!!! Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tony Renshaw Sent: 12 May 2011 04:15 Subject: Europa-List: Crimping Wires ......Link Hi, For those doing electrics, or about to start, I found this link very informative http://www.pbase.com/mainecruising/wire_termination Reg Tony Renshaw Sydney Aussie P.S. If anyone knows of a "must do" in Capetown SA, please let me know. ----- No virus found in this message. 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