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1. 12:00 AM - Re: Europa Design Trailer Question (Frans Veldman)
2. 01:31 AM - Re: Share for sale" (Bill Sisley)
3. 01:40 AM - Re: Sale of Europa XS - NEW LINK (stephan@scassel.se)
4. 01:52 AM - Re: Share for sale" ()
5. 03:08 AM - Re: Sale of Europa XS - NEW LINK (Hans J. Danielsen)
6. 07:27 AM - Re: Fixing Cooling Ducting to Firewall (MalcolmH)
7. 09:07 AM - Re: Re: Europa Design Trailer Question (roddyeuropa@aol.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Design Trailer Question |
On 05/19/2011 05:48 AM, Martin Tuck wrote:
> I'd be interested in hearing or seeing photos of any other solutions to
> this weighty problem.
I got some electrical winch from Ebay, with wireless remote control, for
about $50. Works perfect. There are plenty of offers on eBay for ATV's,
quads, etc. Electrical current comes from a small battery I installed on
the trailer (not included) and the battery is connected to the power
supply of the towing car so it recharges itself automatically as soon as
the trailer is hitched.
So, if I want to load the airplane on the trailer, I just hook on the
rope, press the button and while it is slowly loading I can walk around
and see if everything is going well thanks to the remote control.
The whole process, from arriving to the airfield with the Europa on the
trailer, to a "ready for departure" state, takes about 15 minutes. And
the pre-flight check is included in the rigging process. In fact, it is
faster than many people need to open the hanger door, shuffle some
airplanes around, get their airplane outside, and perform their
preflight checks.
So, I keep the airplane at home and rig and derig for every flight. It
saves hangar costs, and it is easier to perform some maintenance on the
airplane if I have it in my own barn. And I don't have to worry about
other people messing with it. And I can easily fuel it on the way to the
airport, for the lowest price and without lead. I found the ability to
rig and derig so easy the main attraction of the Europa concept.
As a towing car I usually use my classic 1972 Mercedes 300SEL with air
suspension, and this makes quite a sighty combination. In fact, I had to
get used to people passing me slowly while they are making pictures of
the car and the airplane. It has become part of the fun of going out
flying. ;-)
Frans
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| Subject: | Re: Share for sale" |
Jim,
Let us have your details when you get here and we will fly up to say hello.
Rgds
Sue& Bill
On 19/05/2011 5:19 p.m., jim.naylor@talktalk.net wrote:
> Hi Bill,
> Thanks for your kind offer, we have a house in Mangonui Far North. I
> fly a Tecnam out of Kaitaia Aero Club when we are over there, not
> quite Europa performance, but very enjoyable for pottering around the
> local area.
> Regards
> Jim
> *From:* Bill Sisley <mailto:bill.sue@orcon.net.nz>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:46 PM
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
> *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Share for sale"
> Hi Jim,
>
> What part of NZ are you coming to?
> If you are close you can probably still get some Europa time with me.
>
> Sue& Bill Sisley
> Mono
> 914
> Airmaster
> 950hrs
>
>
> On 18/05/2011 7:52 p.m., jim.naylor@talktalk.net wrote:
>> After 15 years of immense fun, regretfully I have to sell my share in
>> G-BVLV due to our pending emigration to New Zealand.
>> Based at Bidford on Avon England, this has got to be one of the
>> cheapest ways to fly. 70 a month covers all the standing costs and
>> leaves a surplus in the kitty. No hourly rate, just put your petrol
>> in and go flying. Stored in a box trailer with one man rigging aids,
>> 15 minuets to rig ready to fly, or leave rigged ready to go.
>> My 1/4 share for sale 7000 including the trailer and all equipment,
>> spares, tools etc.
>> Any interest, email me off forum jim.naylor@talktalk.net
>> <mailto:jim.naylor@talktalk.net> or phone 01386 446870.
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| Subject: | Re: Sale of Europa XS - NEW LINK |
Hi Hans Jrgen,
Wrong link in previous message.
It says:
Pics and details at http://Inhjd.scassel.se/
Should be:
Pics and details at http://lnhjd.scassel.se/
(LNHJD)
I.e LIMA-NOVEMBER.... Not INDIA-NOVEMBER....
Regards
Stephan
LN-STE
(hosting Hans Jrgen's pictures)
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| Subject: | Re: Share for sale" |
Next time we have a fly in and BBQ on 90 mile beach I will make sure you
have a special invitation !
Regards
Jim
Jim,
Let us have your details when you get here and we will fly up to say
hello.
Rgds
Sue & Bill
On 19/05/2011 5:19 p.m., jim.naylor@talktalk.net wrote:
Hi Bill,
Thanks for your kind offer, we have a house in Mangonui Far North. I
fly a Tecnam out of Kaitaia Aero Club when we are over there, not quite
Europa performance, but very enjoyable for pottering around the local
area.
Regards
Jim
From: Bill Sisley
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 10:46 PM
To: europa-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Share for sale"
Hi Jim,
What part of NZ are you coming to?
If you are close you can probably still get some Europa time with me.
Sue & Bill SisleyMono
914
Airmaster
950hrs
On 18/05/2011 7:52 p.m., jim.naylor@talktalk.net wrote:
After 15 years of immense fun, regretfully I have to sell my share
in G-BVLV due to our pending emigration to New Zealand.
Based at Bidford on Avon England, this has got to be one of the
cheapest ways to fly. =C2=A370 a month covers all the standing
cost=99s and leaves a surplus in the kitty. No hourly rate, just
put your petrol in and go flying. Stored in a box trailer with one man
rigging aids, 15 minuets to rig ready to fly, or leave rigged ready to
go.
My 1/4 share for sale =C2=A37000 including the trailer and all
equipment, spares, tools etc.
Any interest, email me off forum jim.naylor@talktalk.net or phone
01386 446870.
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| Subject: | Re: Sale of Europa XS - NEW LINK |
Der ser man - fingertrouble again. Stor i og liten l mixup.
Flott at du har ryddet opp for meg!
Men n - aller sist: Har ftt mail fra en interessert kjper - Ole Christian
Espedal. Har sendt ham noen detaljer. Videresender komunikajsonen.
S gr det kanskje bra likevel??
Med takk og vennlig hilsen,
Hans Jrgen
----- Original Message -----
From: <stephan@scassel.se>
Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 10:37 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Sale of Europa XS - NEW LINK
>
>
> Hi Hans Jrgen,
>
> Wrong link in previous message.
>
> It says:
> Pics and details at http://Inhjd.scassel.se/
>
> Should be:
> Pics and details at http://lnhjd.scassel.se/
> (LNHJD)
>
> I.e LIMA-NOVEMBER.... Not INDIA-NOVEMBER....
>
> Regards
> Stephan
> LN-STE
> (hosting Hans Jrgen's pictures)
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Fixing Cooling Ducting to Firewall |
Thank you for all the responses.
I think I understand what is intended now. Rather than reversed, the anchor nut
is mounted on the outside rather than inside face. The shank on the bolts provided
would be to large in this case anyway (1/4"). Maybe I don't understand?.
Wouldn't you also have to use a washer on the inside of the footwell for the
rivets to pull onto?
I agree with Frans, this puts load on the rivets holding the anchor nut in place.
Not sure that this is a good solution.
I'll try and carry out Flying Farmers idea of using a bolt from the inside.
Thanks again
Malcolm Hendra (Kit 121)
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| Subject: | Re: Europa Design Trailer Question |
I use a similar system, but have the hand winch attached about a metre forw
ard of the towhook, on the side square tube. I use a pulley mounted at the
end of the tailwheel chanel to turn the rope through 180 degrees. Keeps th
e winch out of way.
Roddy Kesterton G-IKRK
-----Original Message-----
From: JonSmith <jonsmitheuropa@tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: Thu, 19 May 2011 7:45
Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa Design Trailer Question
>
Hi, I have a small hand operated winch mounted just behind the tow hitch.
It's
a small winch with a ratchet type winding handle like you might find on a
sailing dinghy trailer to wind the boat onto the trailer. I have attached
it to
my trailer with just one bolt - in fact it's mounted on the rear of the tow
hitch using the rear one of the two hitch mounting bolts.
I just position the plane up to the trailer with the main wheel at the bott
om of
the ramp ready to run up onto the trailer. From the winch I run the rope (
6mm
polyprop) rearwards and use a small carrebena type clip to clip it around t
he
mainwheel axle (on the port side - the other side would foul the brake). T
hen
just go back to the hitch and wind it on - runs up a treat, easy peasy! Th
e
tail wheel just runs nicely along the channel with the rope passing alongsi
de
it. As I'm winding I can move the hitch of the trailer slightly left/ righ
t as
required to keep it perfectly aligned until the main wheel is on the ramp.
I also lower the plane down the ramp to stop things getting out of hand as
I'm
always rigging/ derigging single handed. I keep it at home on the trailer
and
rig every time.
Another use of the winch is that after the plane is on the trailer and
restrained you can detach the rope from the aircraft and attach it to the r
amp
to winch that up far enough up to easily get the strut pip pins in if it's
a bit
tight although I can normally manage this by hand.
Cheers, Jon
--------
G-TERN
Classic Mono
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