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Sun 05/29/11


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:30 AM - Re: urgent: 912S ignition failure (europapa)
     2. 03:16 AM - Re: Filser Radio problems (Frans Veldman)
     3. 03:18 AM - Re: Filser Radio problems (Frans Veldman)
     4. 03:28 AM - Re: HQ Europa takeoff video (Bob Harrison)
     5. 04:33 AM - Re: Filser Radio problems (David Lewendon)
     6. 05:26 AM - CS Prop Controller - manifold pressure. (Carl Pattinson)
     7. 06:20 AM - Re: CS Prop Controller - manifold pressure. (Bob Harrison)
     8. 07:30 AM - Re: CS Prop Controller - manifold pressure. (PHILLIPS I)
     9. 12:06 PM - Can the Monowheel be suitable for the tarmac (Ofanoa)
    10. 01:00 PM - Re: CS Prop Controller - manifold pressure. (Frans Veldman)
    11. 02:31 PM - Re: Can the Monowheel be suitable for the tarmac (Pete Lawless)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:30:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: urgent: 912S ignition failure
    From: "europapa" <jubu@onlinehome.de>
    If our Europas would only have a bigger tank, I would prefer this: http://www.pbsvb.com/dlt_motor_tps100.php Have a nice Sunday Juergen Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=341344#341344


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    Time: 03:16:34 AM PST US
    From: Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl>
    Subject: Re: Filser Radio problems
    On 05/28/2011 11:09 PM, Bud Yerly wrote: > First check and ohm out your radio connections and coax attachment to > your antenna. Check out the coax that the center wire and outer shield > have no continuity. All too complicated and not necessary. Just borrow an SWR-meter, and see what it says. Broken wires, shorts, resonance problems, everything shows up with this simple test. There are many radio amateurs, find one and he probably loves to look at the installation of a real airplane. If there is anything else than the Europa recommended halve wave antenna in the tail closeout, I would scrap it and arrange such a halve wave antenna. Contradictory to common believe fed by marketroids, there is nothing that beats a simple halve wave dipole for this application. No antenna can have any gain over a dipole without introducing losses in some area's. It is just like a light bulb, any gain you derive with reflectors and lenses will introduce dark spot in other directions. A half wave is close to omnidirectional and only has two small "dark spots" straight up and straight down. Fortunately if you are overhead an ATC facility the "dark spot" is of no consequence as you are pretty close anyway. There is another reason to stay with a dipole: A dipole has a certain impedance and it is exactly this impedance (50 ohms) that became the standard for the coax and output of the transmitter. Of course this is no coincidence as the manufacturers know that the dipole is the best solution. Other antennas might have a different impedance, need a matching network (often built in and invisible to the user), and often this matching network (consisting of coils and capacitors) breaks down, causing all sorts of problems. Just my 2 cents, Frans


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    Time: 03:18:18 AM PST US
    From: Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl>
    Subject: Re: Filser Radio problems
    On 05/28/2011 11:40 PM, jimpuglise@comcast.net wrote: > Simpler than all the testing, if you can get to the back of the > transmitter, put an SWR bridge in the line. > If you know > someone who is a radio amateur they may be able to help you with both > tests. Oops. I should read the entire list before answering something. Frans


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    Time: 03:28:26 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: HQ Europa takeoff video
    Hi! Thanks Greg. That was me in G-PTAG Europa Trike (c/w Rotax 914) . Just a bit slow in getting the flaps up but in hot, high, humid and "heavy" conditions perhaps the "safe to be sure" policy is best. I remember another one departing Lodrino with certain Jabiru 3300 and no turbo which was fine for learning the hard way and perhaps best forgotten. Hope to be at the Swiss EAA Event this year at LSGY. See you there! Regards Bob Harrison \G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Fuchs Sent: 26 May 2011 13:41 Subject: Europa-List: HQ Europa takeoff video <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net> FYI: This is my favorite Europa takeoff video, taken in very high quality video and audio, and great scenery. Many of you have seen it(Mollis LSMF ), but just in case... Wish there was more a lot more HD video on YT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V3IGYxUih0 Do not archive


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    Time: 04:33:04 AM PST US
    From: David Lewendon <davidlewendon@me.com>
    Subject: Re: Filser Radio problems
    Thanks for all the tips folks. I will track down an SWR meter and check out the system. I will let you know how I get on. BW David On 29 mai 11, at 12:13, Frans Veldman wrote: > > > > On 05/28/2011 11:09 PM, Bud Yerly wrote: > >> First check and ohm out your radio connections and coax attachment to >> your antenna. Check out the coax that the center wire and outer >> shield >> have no continuity. > > All too complicated and not necessary. Just borrow an SWR-meter, and > see > what it says. Broken wires, shorts, resonance problems, everything > shows > up with this simple test. > > There are many radio amateurs, find one and he probably loves to > look at > the installation of a real airplane. > > If there is anything else than the Europa recommended halve wave > antenna > in the tail closeout, I would scrap it and arrange such a halve wave > antenna. Contradictory to common believe fed by marketroids, there is > nothing that beats a simple halve wave dipole for this application. No > antenna can have any gain over a dipole without introducing losses in > some area's. It is just like a light bulb, any gain you derive with > reflectors and lenses will introduce dark spot in other directions. A > half wave is close to omnidirectional and only has two small "dark > spots" straight up and straight down. Fortunately if you are > overhead an > ATC facility the "dark spot" is of no consequence as you are pretty > close anyway. > There is another reason to stay with a dipole: A dipole has a certain > impedance and it is exactly this impedance (50 ohms) that became the > standard for the coax and output of the transmitter. Of course this is > no coincidence as the manufacturers know that the dipole is the best > solution. Other antennas might have a different impedance, need a > matching network (often built in and invisible to the user), and often > this matching network (consisting of coils and capacitors) breaks > down, > causing all sorts of problems. > > Just my 2 cents, > > Frans > >


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    Time: 05:26:22 AM PST US
    From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
    Subject: CS Prop Controller - manifold pressure.
    We just fitted a Smart Avionics controller with our new Woodcomp SR3000 propeller. Engine is a standard 80hp Rotax 912. I'm a complete newbie to flying with CS propellers and trying to get my head around the manifold pressure settings. The display on the Smart controller can be set for either air pressure (in of Hg) or power setting as a % so I am wondering which would be best. While I understand what the pressure readings mean it occurs to me that % of full power is much easier to understand. With the pressure sensor currently fitted, the percentage power reading becomes inaccurate with altitude but as we rarely fly above 3,000 ft I cant see this being a major issue. Any suggestions on which would be the most useful option and why. Thanks in advance. Carl Pattinsoin G-LABS -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Fuchs Sent: 26 May 2011 13:41 Subject: Europa-List: HQ Europa takeoff video --> <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net> FYI: This is my favorite Europa takeoff video, taken in very high quality video and audio, and great scenery. Many of you have seen it(Mollis LSMF ), but just in case... Wish there was more a lot more HD video on YT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V3IGYxUih0 Do not archive


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    Time: 06:20:41 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
    Subject: CS Prop Controller - manifold pressure.
    Hi! Carl I much prefer to use the Manifold pressure settings then you will begin to get the "feel" of "FUEL USAGE" and RPM combinations. I find that % power is a bit of a misnomer. Best manifold pressure for my Smart Avionics is around 27" any more results in more fuel consumption and a labouring engine. However my engine is a 914 so it could be a "bum steer" that I'm advising. Mark Burton will probably better advise you since he flies (or did) using the % setting with the smaller engine. I used to have a battle with Jabiru since they would never provide any power/ manifold pressure comparison graphs to give a target for RPM which resulted in glazed bores needing to have new rings at very low Hours. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Pattinson Sent: 29 May 2011 13:24 Subject: Europa-List: CS Prop Controller - manifold pressure. <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk> We just fitted a Smart Avionics controller with our new Woodcomp SR3000 propeller. Engine is a standard 80hp Rotax 912. I'm a complete newbie to flying with CS propellers and trying to get my head around the manifold pressure settings. The display on the Smart controller can be set for either air pressure (in of Hg) or power setting as a % so I am wondering which would be best. While I understand what the pressure readings mean it occurs to me that % of full power is much easier to understand. With the pressure sensor currently fitted, the percentage power reading becomes inaccurate with altitude but as we rarely fly above 3,000 ft I cant see this being a major issue. Any suggestions on which would be the most useful option and why. Thanks in advance. Carl Pattinsoin G-LABS -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Fuchs Sent: 26 May 2011 13:41 Subject: Europa-List: HQ Europa takeoff video --> <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net> FYI: This is my favorite Europa takeoff video, taken in very high quality video and audio, and great scenery. Many of you have seen it(Mollis LSMF ), but just in case... Wish there was more a lot more HD video on YT. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V3IGYxUih0 Do not archive


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    Time: 07:30:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: CS Prop Controller - manifold pressure.
    From: PHILLIPS I <ivor.phillips@ntlworld.com>
    Hi Carl If you look in the http://www.reiffpreheat.com/RotaxOperatingManual.pdf Page 34 it gives you the run down on suitable RPM to MAP settings for any given power output, Like Bob i also use MAP instead of power, regards Ivor G-IVER On 29 May 2011 14:17, Bob Harrison <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > > Hi! Carl > I much prefer to use the Manifold pressure settings then you will begin to > get the "feel" of "FUEL USAGE" and RPM combinations. I find that % power is > a bit of a misnomer. Best manifold pressure for my Smart Avionics is > around > 27" any more results in more fuel consumption and a labouring engine. > However my engine is a 914 so it could be a "bum steer" that I'm advising. > Mark Burton will probably better advise you since he flies (or did) using > the % setting with the smaller engine. > I used to have a battle with Jabiru since they would never provide any > power/ manifold pressure comparison graphs to give a target for RPM which > resulted in glazed bores needing to have new rings at very low Hours. > > Regards > Bob Harrison G-PTAG > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl > Pattinson > Sent: 29 May 2011 13:24 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: CS Prop Controller - manifold pressure. > > <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk> > > We just fitted a Smart Avionics controller with our new Woodcomp SR3000 > propeller. Engine is a standard 80hp Rotax 912. > > I'm a complete newbie to flying with CS propellers and trying to get my > head > around the manifold pressure settings. > > The display on the Smart controller can be set for either air pressure (in > of Hg) or power setting as a % so I am wondering which would be best. > > While I understand what the pressure readings mean it occurs to me that % > of > full power is much easier to understand. With the pressure sensor currently > fitted, the percentage power reading becomes inaccurate with altitude but > as > we rarely fly above 3,000 ft I cant see this being a major issue. > > Any suggestions on which would be the most useful option and why. > > Thanks in advance. > > Carl Pattinsoin > G-LABS > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Fuchs > Sent: 26 May 2011 13:41 > To: europa-list@matronics.com > Subject: Europa-List: HQ Europa takeoff video > > > --> <gregoryf.flyboy@comcast.net> > > > FYI: > This is my favorite Europa takeoff video, taken in very high quality video > and audio, and great scenery. Many of you have seen it(Mollis LSMF ), but > just in case... > Wish there was more a lot more HD video on YT. > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9V3IGYxUih0 > > Do not archive > >


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    Time: 12:06:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Can the Monowheel be suitable for the tarmac
    From: Ofanoa <ofanoa@gmail.com>
    Hi I am a [proud] new owner of a classic Europa Monowheel from Rio Rancho NM. Since there are no grass strips around here I have been working on landing the Monowheel on Paved runway and found it very chalanging. This difficulty planted some doubts in me as to wether the Monowheel can be ever trusted to be safely, consistently landed on paved runways. While somewhat rusty I have 200h+ of tailwheel time mostly in aerobatic biplanes [Acrosport, Pitts] and monoplane [Sokhoi] I was surprised to realized how chalanging the Europa Monowheel landings were -[The first day it was with 12 - 15 Knots variable wind but the second one was with calm wind] I plan to take some more dual time but are starting to wonder if byond the learning curve, would the Europa Mono ever be a safe plane for me to fly around here and in x country [NM is a pretty windy place] I would truly appreciate hearing the members feedback. I would also love to find other Europa owners in my relative vicinity. Thanks a bunch, Ted I. Weitz Rio Rancho NM


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    Time: 01:00:32 PM PST US
    From: Frans Veldman <frans@privatepilots.nl>
    Subject: Re: CS Prop Controller - manifold pressure.
    On 05/29/2011 02:23 PM, Carl Pattinson wrote: > The display on the Smart controller can be set for either air pressure (in > of Hg) or power setting as a % so I am wondering which would be best. It can be configured as alternating, and that is what I did in the beginning. However, I found out that the power % setting was meaningless for me, and I was always waiting for the alternate MAP. So after a while I configured it to display solely the MAP. MAP is the real thing, the % power is derived from it but is inaccurate and well, it is just a number which is pretty meaningless. MAP however tells you, regardless of RPM, what is going on with your engine. Ok, I have a 914, so I have additional reasons to observe MAP (it is also showing the boost pressure). And if I want to compare performance figures with other Europa flyers, I (and they) prefer to exchange RPM and MAP to get comparable figures. Just like Bob told, I too found out that 27 inch is about the sweet point of my 914. The optimum in speed versus fuel consumption. Above this, the fuel consumption climbs faster than the speed. Frans


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    Time: 02:31:39 PM PST US
    From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
    Subject: Can the Monowheel be suitable for the tarmac
    Ted it is a pussy cat on tarmac. You just need to not pull the stick all the way back on landing until after you have touched down (other wise the tail touches first and it bounces) and be very light on the ailerons on the ground so you don't put much pressure on the outriggers. Its easier than a Cub. Regards Pete G-RMAC 912 Classic -----Original Message----- From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ofanoa Sent: 29 May 2011 20:03 Subject: Europa-List: Can the Monowheel be suitable for the tarmac Hi I am a [proud] new owner of a classic Europa Monowheel from Rio Rancho NM. Since there are no grass strips around here I have been working on landing the Monowheel on Paved runway and found it very chalanging. This difficulty planted some doubts in me as to wether the Monowheel can be ever trusted to be safely, consistently landed on paved runways. While somewhat rusty I have 200h+ of tailwheel time mostly in aerobatic biplanes [Acrosport, Pitts] and monoplane [Sokhoi] I was surprised to realized how chalanging the Europa Monowheel landings were -[The first day it was with 12 - 15 Knots variable wind but the second one was with calm wind] I plan to take some more dual time but are starting to wonder if byond the learning curve, would the Europa Mono ever be a safe plane for me to fly around here and in x country [NM is a pretty windy place] I would truly appreciate hearing the members feedback. I would also love to find other Europa owners in my relative vicinity. Thanks a bunch, Ted I. Weitz Rio Rancho NM -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by <http://www.houxou.com/> Houxou, and is believed to be clean.




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