---------------------------------------------------------- Europa-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 06/08/11: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:49 AM - Re: Fixing Cooling Ducting to Firewall (MalcolmH) 2. 04:14 AM - Re: Re: Fixing Cooling Ducting to Firewall (GRAHAM SINGLETON) 3. 05:03 AM - Re: Re: Flap cross tube (craig) 4. 08:06 AM - Danish KZ Rally this weekend..... (Bob Harrison) 5. 12:04 PM - Re: Re: Flap cross tube (Greg Fuchs) 6. 12:51 PM - Re: Flap cross tube (rparigoris) 7. 02:49 PM - Re: Flap cross tube problem (Troy Maynor) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:47 AM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Fixing Cooling Ducting to Firewall From: "MalcolmH" Hi, I thought I'd update on progress of fixing the ducting to the Firewall. What I found is that after positioning the ducting assembly onto the firewall according to the photographs in the manual I indicated the available area for a bolt using a matker pen. I then put an anchor nut in a suitable position on the inside of the ducting within this space (similarly to the previous poster). I then repositioned and drilled pilot holes into the firwall and what I thought was through into the footwell. Wrong.... I have drilled thorough into the void between the footwell and bottom of firewall. I cant positon the ducting in order to secure through to the footwell. I checked the initial positioning by offering up the lower cowling and it looks perfect. I suspect this anomaly is because I have the Classic fuselage and cockpit module/Firweall. I cant find any documentation to support this. I do have the XS firewall forward kit. So in short the ducting will only be supported by the supplied brackets into the front of the footwell. I suppose I could fabricate some further brackets to support at the sides of the footwell if needs be. Regards Malcolm Hendra (Kit 121) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342391#342391 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:14:56 AM PST US From: GRAHAM SINGLETON Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Fixing Cooling Ducting to Firewall Malcolm=0Ayou could put the anchor nut on the outside, (the same side as th e ducting, =0Adrill the hole slightly larger to accept the boss of the anch or nut) Not ideal =0Abut it works.=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A______________ __________________=0AFrom: MalcolmH =0ATo: europa-list@mat ronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, 8 June, 2011 10:46:28=0ASubject: Europa-List: Re: Fixing Cooling Ducting to Firewall=0A=0A--> Europa-List message posted by: "MalcolmH" =0A=0AHi, I thought I'd update on progress of fixing the ducting to the Firewall.=0A=0AWhat I found is that after pos itioning the ducting assembly onto the firewall =0Aaccording to the photogr aphs in the manual I indicated the available area for a =0Abolt using a mat ker pen. I then put an anchor nut in a suitable position on the =0Ainside o f the ducting within this space (similarly to the previous poster).=0A=0AI then repositioned and drilled pilot holes into the firwall and what I thoug ht =0Awas through into the footwell. Wrong.... I have drilled thorough into the void =0Abetween the footwell and bottom of firewall. I cant positon th e ducting in order =0Ato secure through to the footwell.=0A=0AI checked the initial positioning by offering up the lower cowling and it looks =0Aperfe ct.=0A=0AI suspect this anomaly is because I have the Classic fuselage and cockpit =0Amodule/Firweall. I cant find any documentation to support this. I do have the XS =0Afirewall forward kit.=0A=0ASo in short the ducting will only be supported by the supplied brackets into the =0Afront of the footwe ll. I suppose I could fabricate some further brackets to =0Asupport at the sides of the footwell if needs be.=0A=0ARegards=0A=0AMalcolm Hendra (Kit 12 1)=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics. ========= ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 05:03:09 AM PST US From: "craig" Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Flap cross tube I used two counter sunk screws through the block with nyloc nuts and washers underneath I am heading down to pick up some HDPE right now and am hoping it will work at least as well as nylon. I think someone else here had good results. Afraid glue won't stick to either like it does with TUFNOL, though. Might put them on the top side of the spar hole too. Hopefully, it will help one-person attempts to align the wing pins so many times. How did you anchor in the nylon blocks, a number of screws and some glue around the edges of the block? New thread could be started here...almost (prob too short). Greg F ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:06:38 AM PST US From: "Bob Harrison" Subject: Europa-List: Danish KZ Rally this weekend..... Hi! All. Anyone else intending a visit to this fly in ? Don't forget the Wckenby (EGNW) event 18th and 19th weekend too. Regards Bob Harrison G-PTAG ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:04:44 PM PST US From: "Greg Fuchs " Subject: RE: Europa-List: Re: Flap cross tube Ok, thanks for the help _____ From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of craig I used two counter sunk screws through the block with nyloc nuts and washers underneath I am heading down to pick up some HDPE right now and am hoping it will work at least as well as nylon. I think someone else here had good results. Afraid glue won't stick to either like it does with TUFNOL, though. Might put them on the top side of the spar hole too. Hopefully, it will help one-person attempts to align the wing pins so many times. How did you anchor in the nylon blocks, a number of screws and some glue around the edges of the block? New thread could be started here...almost (prob too short). Greg F ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:03 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flap cross tube From: "rparigoris" Hi Greg On page two I have details of spar ramp install: http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=31838&g2_page=1 Boy some portions were thin on my spar ramps, I liked using Tufnal and Reduxing it in place. I used a router to get close and then a belt sander to complete the fitting. I found that making ramps for wing spar bushings and cowbell entrances really helped out a lot and will keep the aluminium bushings in good shape in addition to putting much less loading on the cowbells since the aluminium bushings will no longer hang up on them. I had an accelerated cockpit module. After a few trial attempts to rig the wings the starboard cowbell broke looke. It was only Reduxed in place with less than stellar scuff sanding. I reinstalled doing a much better scuff sanding job and installed first ply of fiberglass wet out with Redux, then peel plied. Then subsequent plies of glass were wet out with Aeropoxy. The aluminium aileron bracket I used same technique, first ply Redux wet glass and peel ply, subsequent plies glass wet with Aeropoxy. Heating the Redux with a heat gun once it is on the glass helps to more easily wet out. Redux wet glass sticks much more better to steel or aluminium than Aeropoxy wet glass. Ron Parigoris Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=342434#342434 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:33 PM PST US Subject: Europa-List: Re: Flap cross tube problem From: "Troy Maynor" Greg and those interested, I remember using a trick to line up my flap cross tube hinges so very long ago. Don't recall every detail but it involved using AN bolts the size that the hinges pivot on, drilled holes in them lengthwise, the diameter of some twine or fishing line that was very strong, threading the line through the hinges and pulling it tight between both the flaps, letting the already reduxed hinges and spacers align themselves. Pack a good fillet of redux around the hinge mounts and left it to cure. Maybe you can figure out what else I did or come up with your own way. The key though was letting the hinges self align on the wet redux so that the string was absolutely straight. 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